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Re: Usyk vs. Chisora for the WBO belt ?
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 17:07
by Paci
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 16:54
Anything less than winning a major belt is a failure at HW for USYK. So fvking around with Charr doesn't make sense to me.
Neither does jumping in a world fight in his second outing. But if he thinks he can, then lets see. I would like to know if he gets in there with the winner of Ruiz-AJ 2, at least.
And sorry for bringing up the garbage that is the WBA.
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora for the WBO belt ?
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 17:09
by oogiebe
Fair enough Jam, er...I mean margie.
Rivas - He can take a decision from Rivas. Out box and out work him. The liklihood of Rivas being able to land enough to hurt Usyk is low in my opinion.
Pulev - Clear Usyk decision here. Pulev just doesn't hit hard enough to give Usyk the kind of trouble I see him having at HW.
Parker - If Parker takes minutes off he'll lose to Usyk. If he keeps doing the things he's capable of, I'd give it 55-45 for Parker.
Kow - Styles. Kow just keep on coming and throwing punches. Could be sylistically problematic for Usyk. We haven't seen Kow in too many higher level fights so I'll make this point with caveats.
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora for the WBO belt ?
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 17:10
by oogiebe
Paci wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 17:07
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 16:54
Anything less than winning a major belt is a failure at HW for USYK. So fvking around with Charr doesn't make sense to me.
Neither does jumping in a world fight in his second outing. But if he thinks he can, then lets see. I would like to know if he gets in there with the winner of Ruiz-AJ 2, at least.
And sorry for bringing up the garbage that is the WBA.
LOL! Don't forget it was Usyk himself who said he'd jump right in and fight top 5 guys. Everyone seems to forget that.
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora for the WBO belt ?
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 17:11
by margaret thatcher
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 17:09
Fair enough Jam, er...I mean margie.
Rivas - He can take a decision from Rivas. Out box and out work him. The liklihood of Rivas being able to land enough to hurt Usyk is low in my opinion.
Pulev - Clear Usyk decision here. Pulev just doesn't hit hard enough to give Usyk the kind of trouble I see him having at HW.
Parker - If Parker takes minutes off he'll lose to Usyk. If he keeps doing the things he's capable of, I'd give it 55-45 for Parker.
Kow - Styles. Kow just keep on coming and throwing punches. Could be sylistically problematic for Usyk. We haven't seen Kow in too many higher level fights so I'll make this point with caveats.
Fair enough , personally I think he beats all 4 of those guys. Not sure what Parker really does that well either aside from decent hand speed (with oddly slow/stiff legs)-always found him overrated!
Jamamb pride, no denial

Re: Usyk vs. Chisora for the WBO belt ?
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 17:12
by Paci
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 17:10
Paci wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 17:07
Neither does jumping in a world fight in his second outing. But if he thinks he can, then lets see. I would like to know if he gets in there with the winner of Ruiz-AJ 2, at least.
And sorry for bringing up the garbage that is the WBA.
LOL! Don't forget it was Usyk himself who said he'd jump right in and fight top 5 guys. Everyone seems to forget that.
At least he dodges the punches and not the opposition!
Would love Fury vs Usyk. Cause, it would be pretty weird stylewise.
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora for the WBO belt ?
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 17:14
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 17:11
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 17:09
Fair enough Jam, er...I mean margie.
Rivas - He can take a decision from Rivas. Out box and out work him. The liklihood of Rivas being able to land enough to hurt Usyk is low in my opinion.
Pulev - Clear Usyk decision here. Pulev just doesn't hit hard enough to give Usyk the kind of trouble I see him having at HW.
Parker - If Parker takes minutes off he'll lose to Usyk. If he keeps doing the things he's capable of, I'd give it 55-45 for Parker.
Kow - Styles. Kow just keep on coming and throwing punches. Could be sylistically problematic for Usyk. We haven't seen Kow in too many higher level fights so I'll make this point with caveats.
Fair enough , personally I think he beats all 4 of those guys. Not sure what Parker really does that well either aside from decent hand speed (with oddly slow/stiff legs)-always found him overrated!
Jamamb pride, no denial
LOL! You know I respect your opinion. I'm just not sold on him at HW. He loses the size advantage he had at CW and the power advantage. He didn't look so fast and/or quick vs spoon. Just looked like the better boxer. I hope we see him in their with a decent sort next time.
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora for the WBO belt ?
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 17:16
by oogiebe
Paci wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 17:12
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 17:10
LOL! Don't forget it was Usyk himself who said he'd jump right in and fight top 5 guys. Everyone seems to forget that.
At least he dodges the punches and not the opposition!
Would love Fury vs Usyk. Cause, it would be pretty weird stylewise.
LOL! I think Fury vs Usyk would be the least watchable of the current top 15. Very weird indeed!

Re: Usyk vs. Chisora for the WBO belt ?
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 17:35
by Paci
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 17:16
LOL! I think Fury vs Usyk would be the least watchable of the current top 15. Very weird indeed!
Wars are always fun, or seeing master boxers square off. Might be close, might be wide or even watchable for the causals!
Im crossing my fingers that great match ups happens and that the current crop are out after a legacy for themselfs. Cause, how full ain't the heavyweight division with real talent?
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora for the WBO belt ?
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 17:44
by oogiebe
Paci wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 17:35
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 17:16
LOL! I think Fury vs Usyk would be the least watchable of the current top 15. Very weird indeed!
Wars are always fun, or seeing master boxers square off. Might be close, might be wide or even watchable for the causals!
Im crossing my fingers that great match ups happens and that the current crop are out after a legacy for themselfs. Cause, how full ain't the heavyweight division with real talent?
I'm already looking forward to the days of Dubois; Ajagba; Makhumudov;
Re: Usyk vs. Chisora for the WBO belt ?
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 18:12
by Paci
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 17:44
Paci wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 17:35
Wars are always fun, or seeing master boxers square off. Might be close, might be wide or even watchable for the causals!
Im crossing my fingers that great match ups happens and that the current crop are out after a legacy for themselfs. Cause, how full ain't the heavyweight division with real talent?
I'm already looking forward to the days of Dubois; Ajagba; Makhumudov;
I do hope that somebody pops up from nowhere, that is the only thing we are missing. Not counting Ruiz.