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Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 11:11 Well fury is better than both so i disagree

At "wrestling", maybe.

Well Joshua is a better infighter and there is his chance to win the fight with that excellent uppercut but he has to charge wilder thats his biggest chance because Joshua will eventually get hit.

lazboy wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 07:46 Completely agree. It’s the fight that needs to be made. Who is the better out of the two?

i always had AJ way above wilder,
but not so sure anymore. deontay
proved himself to be tough and he
managed difficult situations.

AJ lost weight for ruiz and became
a smart, economic fighting machine.

to me it is a tossing game at this point.

drunkenpiper36 wrote: ↑09 Dec 2019, 23:45 I think Fury will be the last man standing at the end.... IF the necessary fights are made....

Outcome of AJ vs Wilder is very predictable.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑10 Dec 2019, 13:16 Outcome of AJ vs Wilder is very predictable.

Ya, and Luis Ortiz is very mobile, and not a total plodder who couldn't catch up to Malik Scott. Your amazing insight is appreciated

drunkenpiper36 wrote: ↑09 Dec 2019, 23:45 I think Fury will be the last man standing at the end.... IF the necessary fights are made....

Not a bad shout but I believe Usyk will be the main man in the end. AJ and Wilder are knockouts waiting to happen.

Cas wrote: ↑10 Dec 2019, 15:19

drunkenpiper36 wrote: ↑09 Dec 2019, 23:45 I think Fury will be the last man standing at the end.... IF the necessary fights are made....

Not a bad shout but I believe Usyk will be the main man in the end. AJ and Wilder are knockouts waiting to happen.

And Usik is the man to KO Wilder??? Be serious-)

Fury, Usyk....................

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Dec 2019, 15:14

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑10 Dec 2019, 13:16 Outcome of AJ vs Wilder is very predictable.

Ya, and Luis Ortiz is very mobile, and not a total plodder who couldn't catch up to Malik Scott. Your amazing insight is appreciated

He is mobile enough to land on Wilder, so he will definitely be able to land on Joshua. Your amazing insight on Eubank being better than Korobov is equally appreciated.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑10 Dec 2019, 16:18

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Dec 2019, 15:14

Ya, and Luis Ortiz is very mobile, and not a total plodder who couldn't catch up to Malik Scott. Your amazing insight is appreciated

He is mobile enough to land on Wilder, so he will definitely be able to land on Joshua. Your amazing insight on Eubank being better than Korobov is equally appreciated.

Dude is a straight up plodder with those feet, even Chisora managed to catch up to moving Scott but Luis couldn't. He has good hands and that's why he won rounds vs Wilder, but to say he's mobile is just stupid, he's the biggest plodder among the top guys.

Korobov is a straight up fader, dude boxes well a couple rounds then can't keep it up, I didn't really expect anything other than him winning the first round or two, but in true Koro fashion he couldn't last

man wrote: ↑10 Dec 2019, 13:11

lazboy wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 07:46 Completely agree. It’s the fight that needs to be made. Who is the better out of the two?

i always had AJ way above wilder,
but not so sure anymore. deontay
proved himself to be tough and he
managed difficult situations.

AJ lost weight for ruiz and became
a smart, economic fighting machine.

to me it is a tossing game at this point.

that's how i see it.

drunkenpiper36 wrote: ↑09 Dec 2019, 23:45 I think Fury will be the last man standing at the end.... IF the necessary fights are made....

If Fury beats Wilder in the rematch, I will be surprised. Wilder wasn't even 100% in the first fight, but no excuses. I think the near KO spooked Fury, and that won't go away. If he had the confidence to win, he wouldn't have fought the two tomato cans this past year, and fought the rematch right away. Otto Wallin pushed Fury, and that fight certainly didn't do anything for his confidence level. The bad cut on his eye could affect the rest of his career. Fury's old man said he was lucky to even get the win vs Wallin.

Bandog wrote: ↑26 Dec 2019, 08:36 Wilder wasn't even 100% in the first fight, but no excuses.

Bandog wrote: ↑26 Dec 2019, 08:36

drunkenpiper36 wrote: ↑09 Dec 2019, 23:45 I think Fury will be the last man standing at the end.... IF the necessary fights are made....

If Fury beats Wilder in the rematch, I will be surprised. Wilder wasn't even 100% in the first fight, but no excuses. I think the near KO spooked Fury, and that won't go away. If he had the confidence to win, he wouldn't have fought the two tomato cans this past year, and fought the rematch right away. Otto Wallin pushed Fury, and that fight certainly didn't do anything for his confidence level. The bad cut on his eye could affect the rest of his career. Fury's old man said he was lucky to even get the win vs Wallin.

It could arguably be said that Fury wasn’t 100% either. He had fought only twice over the previous three years and against basically two mediocrities. It took him time to get back into shape and yet he won practically every round except the two where he was decked. I give Wilder credit for scoring those knock downs but I also can’t help but wonder if part of being decked came from Fury’s clowning and complaceny. I don’t see Tyson being complacent the next time around or clowning. Especially now that he’s tasted Deontay’s power. In addition, while both men are a year older, I believe this is less advantageous for wilder than it is fury given that he is now 34 years of age and the smaller of the two men...

Of course I could be completely wrong about all of the above and Wilder May win the whole thing. But until otherwise proven, I have to favor Tyson Fury...

DrDuke wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 11:33

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 11:11 Well fury is better than both so i disagree

That's right.

Yep

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Dec 2019, 19:40

Bandog wrote: ↑26 Dec 2019, 08:36 Wilder wasn't even 100% in the first fight, but no excuses.

Maggy, being a woman, you should be more compassionate, and not laugh at folks.

What is Wilder's 100%, if not landing a couple big bombs on a guy who's really hard to hit clean?

Joshua &Wilder have both branched off into rivalries go their own that need sorting. To answer this thread title.

Was I the only one who clicked on this thread hoping to see a video of AJ and Wilder at a karaoke bar covering Metalica?

keirw wrote: ↑29 Dec 2019, 14:06 Was I the only one who clicked on this thread hoping to see a video of AJ and Wilder at a karaoke bar covering Metalica?

keirw wrote: ↑29 Dec 2019, 14:06 Was I the only one who clicked on this thread hoping to see a video of AJ and Wilder at a karaoke bar covering Metalica?

Post of the year

keirw wrote: ↑29 Dec 2019, 14:06 Was I the only one who clicked on this thread hoping to see a video of AJ and Wilder at a karaoke bar covering Metalica?

I guess so, other than a couple others. Maybe I'm too old to see the random humor, but hey

Bandog wrote: ↑29 Dec 2019, 16:58

keirw wrote: ↑29 Dec 2019, 14:06 Was I the only one who clicked on this thread hoping to see a video of AJ and Wilder at a karaoke bar covering Metalica?

I guess so, other than a couple others. Maybe I'm too old to see the random humor, but hey

Geezer!

I think ultimately it'll be Fury-Joshua sometime in December 2020. If Fury beats Wilder in February, then he'll rematch Wilder in the summer. During this time Joshua will be facing Pulev and Usyk. If Fury beats Wilder in the summer of 2020, it'll be Fury-Joshua sometime in December unless an organization demands Fury and Joshua to defend against someone else first like Dillian Whyte. If that be the case it'll be 2021 before we see Fury-Joshua, and by that time Wilder will be the #1 mandatory for the winner.

Jesus bless you all