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drunkenpiper36 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2019, 00:15

chuck9788 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2019, 10:38

I'd agree if Usyk wasn't coming off an injury and a weak first heavyweight opponent (Witherspoon). If Usyk loses he'll have excuses. Pulev on the other hand will have no excuses as he's been active in the division.

Only that he’s pushing 40 years of age and fights on average once per year.

jujigatame wrote: ↑13 Dec 2019, 00:21

drunkenpiper36 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2019, 00:15

Only that he’s pushing 40 years of age and fights on average once per year.

Nobody really cares about Pulev. He's past his prime, he hasn't fought another serious contender since Chisora which was damn near 4 years ago now, he's not exciting, and he doesn't draw a lot. He's one of those guys clinging to his mandatory status like grim death, hoping for another payday.

drunkenpiper36 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2019, 01:00

jujigatame wrote: ↑13 Dec 2019, 00:21

Nobody really cares about Pulev. He's past his prime, he hasn't fought another serious contender since Chisora which was damn near 4 years ago now, he's not exciting, and he doesn't draw a lot. He's one of those guys clinging to his mandatory status like grim death, hoping for another payday.

And I agree. I don’t even see the basis for his being ranked anymore period, let alone all this talk of title shots in his future. There are some here however who seem to think that time has stood still and that some of these fighters haven’t aged.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Dec 2019, 15:37 He's really no worse/less deserving than the average challenger these days, as awful as he is to watch

Look at these guys who have gotten shots in the last few years

Molina x2
Brezeale x2
Duhaupas
Arreola x2
Szpilka
Washington
Takam
Cojanu
Hughie
Stiverne 2


I'd say he would very arguably be the 2nd best opponent Fury or Wilder beat

oogiebe wrote: ↑13 Dec 2019, 15:47

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Dec 2019, 15:37 He's really no worse/less deserving than the average challenger these days, as awful as he is to watch

Look at these guys who have gotten shots in the last few years

Molina x2
Brezeale x2
Duhaupas
Arreola x2
Szpilka
Washington
Takam
Cojanu
Hughie
Stiverne 2


I'd say he would very arguably be the 2nd best opponent Fury or Wilder beat

Hmmm...you might be right. Certainly can make a case for it.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Dec 2019, 17:25 I think Whyte is better than Pulev, and Parker close

Still though, Pulev, as much as we have reason to not like him, is still nearly a best win for pretty much any HW. It would just add to AJ's already impressive (by today's standards lol) depth of resume. It's not like he'd be dragging up a total can or someone who had been at best fringe contending

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Dec 2019, 15:37 He's really no worse/less deserving than the average challenger these days, as awful as he is to watch

Look at these guys who have gotten shots in the last few years

Molina x2
Brezeale x2
Arreola x2
Duhaupas
Szpilka
Washington
Takam
Cojanu
Hughie
Stiverne 2


I'd say he would very arguably be the 2nd best opponent Fury or Wilder beat

JxhDel. wrote: ↑14 Dec 2019, 12:27 Should not have Joshua faced Pulev like two years ago, considering the fact he is still the IBF mandatory? He's almost at the end of his carreer, while Usyk should better test himself against other top dogs before considering this arduos fight.

chuck9788 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2019, 10:05 Pulev deserves the first crack. Usyk still has to prove himself at heavyweight, A win over Chazz Witherspoon does not put him at the top of the list.

ewenhay wrote: ↑14 Dec 2019, 14:47

JxhDel. wrote: ↑14 Dec 2019, 12:27 Should not have Joshua faced Pulev like two years ago, considering the fact he is still the IBF mandatory? He's almost at the end of his carreer, while Usyk should better test himself against other top dogs before considering this arduos fight.

Wasn't Takam a stand in for Pulev?