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Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 13:33
by nickd
True his challenge to Chacon was pretty impressive and I didnt think he'd do it.
Lets not forget Eubank was in training for a fight at 175 and had to shift an extra 7lbs in less than a week.
Re: Harrison to face Archuleta on Jan 28th
Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 14:06
by British Moderators
007 wrote:Scott Harrison will be fighting Frank Archuleta on Jan 28th.
Now that's what I call a scoop.

Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 14:11
by stujones
Max Baer wrote:\"Ian \\\'Mr\\\' McNeilly\" wrote:\"Max Baer\" wrote:
I don\\\'t think it\\\'s fair to categorize Harrison with the likes of Hatton or Calzaghe just yet.
Hatton and Clazaghe both have perfect 38-0 records and still haven\\\'t came in to a fight as an underdog! Harrison has, and he hasn\\\'t had as many proffesional fights as the two fellas mentioned above.
Interesting call and I agree with you to a certain extent. But who has Scott faced as an underdog? Tracey Harris Patterson perhaps.
Remember, when Calzaghe fought Eubank Chris was only 31 and had only ever been beaten by Steve Collins.
But in general, you are right. I just hope his career moves in the right direction quicker than Ricky\\\'s. I honestly think that Joe is in a major rut and NEEDS a huge test for all concerned (except his bank manager!).
I remember many people thought Harrison would lose to Chacon, but Scott jumped up from British/Commonwealth level to beat Chacon, who was rated in the worlds top 10 at the time and was coming of two good wins against world class fighters like Istvan Kovacs and Victor Polo. I\'m a Scott Harrison fan, but even i had my doubts when Harrison was walking in to the ring that night, i thought the opportunity had arrived just a bit to soon in his career...
Max,
There is a difference between some people tipping the opponent and not being the favourite. Although I cannot recall the figures, I am almost certain Scott Harrison was the betting favourite vs Chacon and was also vs McCullough.
Calzaghe was the betting favourite vs Eubank, however many pundits tipped the former champion.
Similarly with Hatton for Tackie and too a lesser extent Magee. I remember Hatton vs Tackie discussed on this forum and it was close to being a 50:50 split amongst the people here.
I would say the only time Harrison was the underdog was for his fight with Patrick Mullings, and Calzaghe was a betting underdog vs Mark Delaney at a similar stage in their career's.
Edit: Harrison may (although I don't think he was) have been the underdog in the Medina rematch, but the reason why he was the betting underdog is not a good thing.
Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 15:54
by Max Baer
stujones wrote:Max Baer wrote:\"Ian \\\'Mr\\\' McNeilly\" wrote:
Interesting call and I agree with you to a certain extent. But who has Scott faced as an underdog? Tracey Harris Patterson perhaps.
Remember, when Calzaghe fought Eubank Chris was only 31 and had only ever been beaten by Steve Collins.
But in general, you are right. I just hope his career moves in the right direction quicker than Ricky\\\'s. I honestly think that Joe is in a major rut and NEEDS a huge test for all concerned (except his bank manager!).
I remember many people thought Harrison would lose to Chacon, but Scott jumped up from British/Commonwealth level to beat Chacon, who was rated in the worlds top 10 at the time and was coming of two good wins against world class fighters like Istvan Kovacs and Victor Polo. I\'m a Scott Harrison fan, but even i had my doubts when Harrison was walking in to the ring that night, i thought the opportunity had arrived just a bit to soon in his career...
Max,
There is a difference between some people tipping the opponent and not being the favourite. Although I cannot recall the figures, I am almost certain Scott Harrison was the betting favourite vs Chacon and was also vs McCullough.
Calzaghe was the betting favourite vs Eubank, however many pundits tipped the former champion.
Similarly with Hatton for Tackie and too a lesser extent Magee. I remember Hatton vs Tackie discussed on this forum and it was close to being a 50:50 split amongst the people here.
I would say the only time Harrison was the underdog was for his fight with Patrick Mullings, and Calzaghe was a betting underdog vs Mark Delaney at a similar stage in their career's.
Edit: Harrison may (although I don't think he was) have been the underdog in the Medina rematch, but the reason why he was the betting underdog is not a good thing.
I am sure Chacon was the betting favourite, he was the champion and Harrison hadn't beat anyone as good as him going in to that bout.
Re: Harrison to face Archuleta on Jan 28th
Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 15:57
by nickd
British Moderators wrote:007 wrote:Scott Harrison will be fighting Frank Archuleta on Jan 28th.
Now that's what I call a scoop.

Now that's what I call a gimme. ;)
Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 16:19
by stujones
Max Baer wrote:stujones wrote:Max Baer wrote:
I remember many people thought Harrison would lose to Chacon, but Scott jumped up from British/Commonwealth level to beat Chacon, who was rated in the worlds top 10 at the time and was coming of two good wins against world class fighters like Istvan Kovacs and Victor Polo. I\'m a Scott Harrison fan, but even i had my doubts when Harrison was walking in to the ring that night, i thought the opportunity had arrived just a bit to soon in his career...
Max,
There is a difference between some people tipping the opponent and not being the favourite. Although I cannot recall the figures, I am almost certain Scott Harrison was the betting favourite vs Chacon and was also vs McCullough.
Calzaghe was the betting favourite vs Eubank, however many pundits tipped the former champion.
Similarly with Hatton for Tackie and too a lesser extent Magee. I remember Hatton vs Tackie discussed on this forum and it was close to being a 50:50 split amongst the people here.
I would say the only time Harrison was the underdog was for his fight with Patrick Mullings, and Calzaghe was a betting underdog vs Mark Delaney at a similar stage in their career's.
Edit: Harrison may (although I don't think he was) have been the underdog in the Medina rematch, but the reason why he was the betting underdog is not a good thing.
I am sure Chacon was the betting favourite, he was the champion and Harrison hadn't beat anyone as good as him going in to that bout.
Almost certain he wasn't- remember it was held in Scotland and Chacon had looked very ordinary on his previos visit here
Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 16:37
by nickd
Yep he didnt look great beating Polo at York Hall I was there for that one. Was a really close untidy fight, the night Alexander won the european title.
Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 16:44
by stujones
007 wrote:Yep he didnt look great beating Polo at York Hall I was there for that one. Was a really close untidy fight, the night Alexander won the european title.
It wasn't close on my card, Polo won handily.
Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 16:50
by Max Baer
stujones wrote:Max Baer wrote:stujones wrote:
Max,
There is a difference between some people tipping the opponent and not being the favourite. Although I cannot recall the figures, I am almost certain Scott Harrison was the betting favourite vs Chacon and was also vs McCullough.
Calzaghe was the betting favourite vs Eubank, however many pundits tipped the former champion.
Similarly with Hatton for Tackie and too a lesser extent Magee. I remember Hatton vs Tackie discussed on this forum and it was close to being a 50:50 split amongst the people here.
I would say the only time Harrison was the underdog was for his fight with Patrick Mullings, and Calzaghe was a betting underdog vs Mark Delaney at a similar stage in their career\'s.
Edit: Harrison may (although I don\'t think he was) have been the underdog in the Medina rematch, but the reason why he was the betting underdog is not a good thing.
I am sure Chacon was the betting favourite, he was the champion and Harrison hadn\'t beat anyone as good as him going in to that bout.
Almost certain he wasn\'t- remember it was held in Scotland and Chacon had looked very ordinary on his previos visit here
I remember it was held in Scotland, i was there! Chacon didn\'t look good when he faced Victor Polo, but he beat him, and Polo is a world class fighter.
It was a close fight, but i had Chacon winning, and so did Ian Darke, Glen McCrory, and Barry McGuigan.
Chacon had a good record coming in to his fight with Harrison. He had beaten Darryl Pinckney, Juan Cabrera, Oscar Leon, Wilson Palacio, István Kovács, and Víctor Polo, and his only two defeats in 46 fights were on points against the under-rated Freddie Norwood and Claudio Víctor Martinet, who Chacon KO\'d in 5 rounds a year later in their rematch.
Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 18:18
by Max Baer
To be honest i don't think this is to bad of a fight considering all the other top Featherweights look to be fighting each other, and Archuleta is ranked in the bottom half of the top 10. He's certainly not the best opponent Harrison has faced, and i don't see him beating Scott, but it could have been worse. I thought it might have been Preist Smalls who was fighting Harrison in January, and that would have been a lot worse IMO.
Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 18:28
by Max Baer
Kilburn wrote:Well I wouldn't have considered even Emmanuel Lucero a decent opponent, let alone a guy who got stopped by him. I last saw Lucero on CH5 not so long ago getting taken apart again by a prospect.
I think I'll skip this one.
Archuleta didn't get stopped by Lucero, he lost on points. It sounds like it was a good fight though. Lucero was down twice and Archuleta was down 3 times...
Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 18:47
by Max Baer
Frank Maloney says no oppenent has been finalized for Harrison. He said Sports Network are still looking through tapes and going over records of different opponents.
I had read many websites saying the fight with Archuleta was on

Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 18:58
by Steudle
A New Mexico Boxing site (Archuleta's Home State) says The decision should be made this week.
nothing is done.
Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 19:01
by steve689
hattonblue wrote:Will GBO sanction this fight Steve?
I am proud to say that i think the GBO would have nothing to do with a forgone conclusion like this, of course if the teams involved would like to fight for the coveted GBO World Title belt then some arrangement could be made i expect.
Posted: 22 Dec 2004, 05:38
by nickd
Max Baer wrote:Frank Maloney says no oppenent has been finalized for Harrison. He said Sports Network are still looking through tapes and going over records of different opponents.
I had read many websites saying the fight with Archuleta was on

So they're going through tapes and records to see who the easiest opponent is??
Posted: 22 Dec 2004, 07:15
by Kilburn
Max Baer wrote:Kilburn wrote:Well I wouldn't have considered even Emmanuel Lucero a decent opponent, let alone a guy who got stopped by him. I last saw Lucero on CH5 not so long ago getting taken apart again by a prospect.
I think I'll skip this one.
Archuleta didn't get stopped by Lucero, he lost on points. It sounds like it was a good fight though. Lucero was down twice and Archuleta was down 3 times...
I stand fully corrected Mr Baer.
I'll still skip the fight though.