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Posted: **23 Dec 2019, 14:22**

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑23 Dec 2019, 10:02
polecateddy wrote: ↑23 Dec 2019, 08:20 If Josha now has to adopt a safety first approach to every fight because he is anxious about his durability, what's he going to do if Pulev out boxes him?
Who says he’s anxious about his durability? He got into that shape for one fight because he needed to box and move, which he did. He passed the test.

You really think ‘Chin in the Air’ Pulev is outboxing Joshua without being caught? AJ is going to crush him, probably quicker than Wlad did.

Those weird folks predicting ‘psychological damage’ for Joshua after the first Ruiz fight were wrong then and wrong now. He’s going to go back to being the AJ we knew from before the loss. I hope he stays in the 245 range though.

It's people who want him to lose, they are trying to read everything to suit their hopes. It was really quite amusing to see how so many people acted like AJ was just in a state of utter despair and ruin, and that he was totally done already going into the rematch.

Funny thing is, the same people will then also talk about unbeaten records not mattering and will call for 'the best fights'. Yet that whole rush to label someone as finished is such a large part of why cherrypicking happens way more than great fights do.

Posted: **23 Dec 2019, 14:56**

polecateddy wrote: ↑23 Dec 2019, 14:17
Coco wrote: ↑23 Dec 2019, 12:00 Pulev v Klit was a strange one and I thought Pulev got his tactics badly wrong. Maybe he felt he was fighting the same guy who got smashed by Corrie Saunders. Anyway the Bulgarian went for it and walked straight into the line of fire.
It was kind of a one off fight. If Pulev can beat Chisora without really needing to get out of second gear, he's obviously a threat.

Pulev is the sort of guy who can get away with his flaws against the likes of Chisora but isn’t going to pose many problems for an elite heavyweight with range and power. Straight lines, chin in the air, flat footed, target practice.

Posted: **23 Dec 2019, 14:59**

Coco wrote: ↑23 Dec 2019, 12:00 Pulev v Klit was a strange one and I thought Pulev got his tactics badly wrong. Maybe he felt he was fighting the same guy who got smashed by Corrie Saunders. Anyway the Bulgarian went for it and walked straight into the line of fire.

His tactics seemed fine, might as well take the fight to Wlad when you have literally no advantage boxing him over the distance.

Posted: **23 Dec 2019, 15:00**

There's no way a non-punching, chin straight in the air opponent with an average chin is beating Josh. It's like a pellet gun vs heavy artillery. And Josh isn't some mindless slugger, he has boxing ability himself and underrated accuracy. He didn't win Olympic gold and worlds silver KOing everyone.

This is a Wlad style KO all over again.

Posted: **23 Dec 2019, 17:16**

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Dec 2019, 15:00 There's no way a non-punching, chin straight in the air opponent with an average chin is beating Josh. It's like a pellet gun vs heavy artillery. And Josh isn't some mindless slugger, he has boxing ability himself and underrated accuracy. He didn't win Olympic gold and worlds silver KOing everyone.

This is a Wlad style KO all over again.

Rather too much confidence in a fighter floored 4 times just two fights ago.

Posted: **23 Dec 2019, 17:21**

Nah, it's just understanding the matchup

What do you place the odds at? 60/40 AJ? 50/50? Pulev the favourite?

Posted: **23 Dec 2019, 17:51**

People are hot on Ortiz

How would an Ortiz - Pulev fight go? 50/50?

Pulev would be the 2nd best win on both Wilder and Fury’s records, at least.

Posted: **23 Dec 2019, 17:55**

Ya, I'd say Pulev would be the second best opponent either has beaten, certainly you can make a good case for it. I would say he'd be 4th or 5th best for Josh

Posted: **16 Jan 2020, 06:14**

Posted: **16 Jan 2020, 06:16**

Pulev alone with other Bulgarian sources are confirming the fight will take place in Istanbul in May. In a stadium fight.

Posted: **16 Jan 2020, 06:18**

Istanbul? Well that's fuckin random eh? Makes me wonder what dark forces are at work behind the scenes

The 2 main guys at the weight are tied up just now so i don't mind Pulev as a defence plus he's a mandatory anyway... I would like to see Usyk but i'd also like to see him get more experience at the weight first so this kinda works out ok i suppose....

Posted: **16 Jan 2020, 06:20**

Stuarty wrote: ↑16 Jan 2020, 06:18 Istanbul? Well that's fuckin random eh? Makes me wonder what dark forces are at work behind the scenes The 2 main guys at the weight are tied up just now so i don't mind Pulev as a defence plus he's a mandatory anyway... I would like to see Usyk but i'd also like to see him get more experience at the weight first so this kinda works out ok i suppose....

I couldn’t care less if it is Istanbul. It just means we in the UK will get it at a very good time again.

Posted: **16 Jan 2020, 06:24**

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 Jan 2020, 06:20
Stuarty wrote: ↑16 Jan 2020, 06:18 Istanbul? Well that's fuckin random eh? Makes me wonder what dark forces are at work behind the scenes The 2 main guys at the weight are tied up just now so i don't mind Pulev as a defence plus he's a mandatory anyway... I would like to see Usyk but i'd also like to see him get more experience at the weight first so this kinda works out ok i suppose....
I couldn’t care less if it is Istanbul. It just means we in the UK will get it at a very good time again.

Or a cheap holiday

I couldn't go and sit in amongst his fans and watch the guy anyway so I'm alright

Posted: **16 Jan 2020, 06:43**

Stuarty wrote: ↑16 Jan 2020, 06:24
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 Jan 2020, 06:20

I couldn’t care less if it is Istanbul. It just means we in the UK will get it at a very good time again.
Or a cheap holiday I couldn't go and sit in amongst his fans and watch the guy anyway so I'm alright

Um, Interesting..., why not ?
Have you slept with all of AJ fans' sisters ?!

Posted: **16 Jan 2020, 06:56**

skanksta wrote: ↑16 Jan 2020, 06:43
Stuarty wrote: ↑16 Jan 2020, 06:24

Or a cheap holiday I couldn't go and sit in amongst his fans and watch the guy anyway so I'm alright
Um, Interesting..., why not ?
Have you slept with all of AJ fans' sisters ?!

I wish! AKA Skinz beat me to it

They just talk a massive amount of pish! I don't like em lol...

Posted: **16 Jan 2020, 07:00**

He should smash Pulev easy. Pulev is the mot overrated boxer ever on boxing forums lol (head over to CS for proof).

Posted: **16 Jan 2020, 10:48**

danconnollyeire wrote: ↑16 Jan 2020, 07:00 He should smash Pulev easy. Pulev is the mot overrated boxer ever on boxing forums lol (head over to CS for proof).

who needs proof !

Oh just the governing bodies

Posted: **16 Jan 2020, 10:54**

stevec@france wrote: ↑16 Jan 2020, 10:48
danconnollyeire wrote: ↑16 Jan 2020, 07:00 He should smash Pulev easy. Pulev is the mot overrated boxer ever on boxing forums lol (head over to CS for proof).
who needs proof !

Oh just the governing bodies

Eh?

Posted: **16 Jan 2020, 11:12**

seems like the entire world knows pulev is crap except for :

Pulev of course
IBF
Arum

and some deluded fans probably from Bulgaria

Posted: **16 Jan 2020, 11:25**

stevec@france wrote: ↑16 Jan 2020, 11:12 seems like the entire world knows pulev is crap except for :

Pulev of course
IBF
Arum

and some deluded fans probably from Bulgaria

I wouldn't call him crap... just extremely overrated on current scene

Posted: **16 Jan 2020, 11:34**

danconnollyeire wrote: ↑16 Jan 2020, 11:25
stevec@france wrote: ↑16 Jan 2020, 11:12 seems like the entire world knows pulev is crap except for :

Pulev of course
IBF
Arum

and some deluded fans probably from Bulgaria
I wouldn't call him crap... just extremely overrated on current scene

I wouldn’t call him crap. He’s kept winning. Not always faces the Best competition though. He’s just not an exciting boxer.

Posted: **16 Jan 2020, 11:52**

still unconfirmed ???

its just pissing me off that if the fight is in May then its 6 months since ruiz 2 .

fighting twice a year is ok if the opponents are decent but really to me Pulev isnt anything more than an enhanced sparring session so why should fans wait so effin long , how on earth could they build it up into anything resembling excitement will be interesting .

AJ should be back in the ring in March to deal with this mandatory and be ready to fight again in June / july against a better name.

Posted: **16 Jan 2020, 12:33**

If they don't bring this to the UK that'll be mad. Are they banking on us missing him so much that his return will be huge? They've done the Saudi and US thing now... if he fights Wilder next, that' be in the US... are they banking on Fury beating WIlder for a huge UK show or is the foreign money really getting to Hearn?

Posted: **16 Jan 2020, 13:25**

Fury v wilder three happens next in the summer regardless of the result

Posted: **16 Jan 2020, 16:44**

mullenman wrote: ↑16 Jan 2020, 13:25 Fury v wilder three happens next in the summer regardless of the result

Not if one of them gets absolutely sparked.

Regarding Pulev. He’s a mandatory and let’s be brutally honest, is he actually any worse than Ortiz? People seem to have a hard on for him but who has he ever beat? Pulev v Ortiz would be nigh on a 50/50 fight.
Pretty decent keep busy fight plus takes care of a mandatory doesn’t it? Istanbul is a bit leftfield too!

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