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Golovkin rematch for me, he overcame an unbeaten beast after clearly losing the first time. He's deffo a juicer though, takes the shine lff his career.

Golovkin was 36 y/o at that time. It wasn't fair for GGG. I don't think a 27 y/o Canelo would've stood a chance to a 30 y/o Golovkin.

apollo creed wrote: ↑10 Jan 2020, 05:43 Golovkin was 36 y/o at that time. It wasn't fair for GGG. I don't think a 27 y/o Canelo would've stood a chance to a 30 y/o Golovkin.

I don't think, anything would have been different. Golovkin's career wasn't life-taking, as he was the king of a relatively weak era. He didn't have wars, which could take a lot from boxers. The really good opposition just appeared at the fall of his reign. I'd say, the real decline showed up right after Canelo. But for Canelo Golovkin was well-prepared, especially in the second bout.

DrDuke wrote: ↑10 Jan 2020, 06:15

apollo creed wrote: ↑10 Jan 2020, 05:43 Golovkin was 36 y/o at that time. It wasn't fair for GGG. I don't think a 27 y/o Canelo would've stood a chance to a 30 y/o Golovkin.

I don't think, anything would have been different. Golovkin's career wasn't life-taking, as he was the king of a relatively weak era. He didn't have wars, which could take a lot from boxers. The really good opposition just appeared at the fall of his reign. I'd say, the real decline showed up right after Canelo. But for Canelo Golovkin was well-prepared, especially in the second bout.

It would definitely be different. Sanchez high altitude camps became too hard for older Golovkin. Besides, even without wars, wear and tear accumulates after so many fights (don't forget the long amateur career).

apollo creed wrote: ↑10 Jan 2020, 05:43 Golovkin was 36 y/o at that time. It wasn't fair for GGG. I don't think a 27 y/o Canelo would've stood a chance to a 30 y/o Golovkin.

Yet, boxing’s all about timing and life isn’t fair. The Alvarez v Golovkin rematch was similar in a few ways to the first Toney v McCallum. Style of the fight, ages of fighters/stages of their careers, outcome that is debated by fans, etc.

Younger guy with amazing punch quality but less impressive workrate, getting outlanded by a great in the veteran stages who’s no longer a destroyer.

Ggg 2 no question

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑10 Jan 2020, 14:49

DrDuke wrote: ↑10 Jan 2020, 06:15

I don't think, anything would have been different. Golovkin's career wasn't life-taking, as he was the king of a relatively weak era. He didn't have wars, which could take a lot from boxers. The really good opposition just appeared at the fall of his reign. I'd say, the real decline showed up right after Canelo. But for Canelo Golovkin was well-prepared, especially in the second bout.

It would definitely be different. Sanchez high altitude camps became too hard for older Golovkin. Besides, even without wars, wear and tear accumulates after so many fights (don't forget the long amateur career).

The hard sparrings and the hard trainings since G started boxing meant a lot of wear and tear too.

I don't want to say that G was weak and faded like sh*T when he fought Canelo but let's be sincere here and accept that Golovkin was past of his prime when Canelo first fought him.

True a lot of Eastern European greats have physically peaked in the amateurs or the early part of their pro careers. But he was still very good by the 2nd Alvarez fight.

Autobarn wrote: ↑11 Jan 2020, 16:54 True a lot of Eastern European greats have physically peaked in the amateurs or the early part of their pro careers. But he was still very good by the 2nd Alvarez fight.

I think G was around 23-24 y/o when he started as a pro fighter. That was the time when G was peaking-age wise. Guys like Jermain Taylor, Pavlik, Abraham, Ronald Wright, Edison Miranda, Sturm, Paul Williams, Martinez, etc were the top dogs of the mw division, meanwhile a young-peaking Golovkin was an unknown fighter who had to waste his peaking-years by fighting lesser opposition until he finally got his chance against Lemieux and then Jacobs. But that probably was due to the fact that G was very poorly managed and promoted at that time. Anyway, even when G was past of his prime he was still able to beat younger top champions like Jacobs and Canelo which tells us all we need to know about how strong G was in his peaking years.