Oh yeah! I remember now.Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑03 Feb 2020, 11:27 He signed to fight charr. Charr tested positive
They offered him big baby on short notice and fres wouldnt fight him without vada testing... which in hindsight was a pretty good call.
Oquendo failed to sign the contract to face Charr for his WBA legally obliged mandatory title shot, so they’re no longer obliged to include him in their rankings,
So it is even dumber.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Feb 2020, 13:12Oquendo failed to sign the contract to face Charr for his WBA legally obliged mandatory title shot, so they’re no longer obliged to include him in their rankings,
I think fres filed suit to get the escrow money after charr tested positive. I dont know if that is still being litigated which is probably why hes still sitting at 15Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Feb 2020, 13:12Oquendo failed to sign the contract to face Charr for his WBA legally obliged mandatory title shot, so they’re no longer obliged to include him in their rankings,
The wba has said what eo has said, but i think hes in their rankings still because of an ongoing suit over money for the first canceled charr fightPaci wrote: ↑03 Feb 2020, 15:24So it is even dumber.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Feb 2020, 13:12
Oquendo failed to sign the contract to face Charr for his WBA legally obliged mandatory title shot, so they’re no longer obliged to include him in their rankings,
Fres should just get his paycheck since Charr failed his test for that fight. So we can leave this stupidity behind us. Read something about it in their contract that makes it petty and stupid move from the promotors of Charr.Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑03 Feb 2020, 16:16The wba has said what eo has said, but i think hes in their rankings still because of an ongoing suit over money for the first canceled charr fight
Fres should never get a dime until he gets his sorry ass in there, and takes his ass whippingPaci wrote: ↑03 Feb 2020, 16:38Fres should just get his paycheck since Charr failed his test for that fight. So we can leave this stupidity behind us. Read something about it in their contract that makes it petty and stupid move from the promotors of Charr.Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑03 Feb 2020, 16:16
The wba has said what eo has said, but i think hes in their rankings still because of an ongoing suit over money for the first canceled charr fight
Best post on boxrec ever.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Feb 2020, 18:47 The timeline of events for the WBA regular world heavyweight championship are riddled with drugs and controversial practices:
• Alexander Povetkin vacates the WBA regular world title, to challenge Wladimir Klitschko, with the Russian subsequently failing multiple drug tests later on his career
• Ruslan Chagaev beats Fres Oquendo in highly-controversial circumstances, to capture the regular vacant version of the WBA's world heavyweight championship, due to the perceived corruption of RUSADA and the WBA
• Fres Oquendo successfully files lawsuits appealing the RUSADA testing protocols failing to adhere to WADA’s rules & the WBA’s misconduct of their handling of his bout against Ruslan Chagaev
• Lucas Browne defeats Ruslan Chagaev to capture the WBA regular world title, but then fails a drug test
• Lucas Browne is reinstated as the WBA’s champion and ordered to defend his title against Fres Oquendo, but the American had to withdraw from the bout due to injury, so he was ordered to face Shannon Briggs instead
• Lucas Browne is then stripped of his WBA regular world title for failing his second drug test within an eight-month period
• The WBA order Shannon Briggs and Fres Oquendo to compete for the vacant WBA regular world title
• Shannon Briggs fails a drug test and the fight is called-off
• Oquendo’s WBA world title bout against Manuel Charr was then called off, due to the German failing a drug test
• Oquendo then rejected a highly-lucrative WBA world title shot against Jarrell Miller, because ‘Big Baby’ didn’t want to undergo VADA testing. Miller then subsequently tested positive at least four times for three different banned substances whilst preparing for the AJ bout
• The WBA then decided to reinstate Manuel Charr as their regular world heavyweight champion, despite failing a drug test
• Fres Oquendo’s reluctance to face a proven drug cheat cost him his world title shot, which has resulted in Manuel Charr being ordered to defend his regular WBA title against interim WBA champion, Trevor Bryan.
• For the record, Trevor Bryan earned his shot at the interim WBA strap by defeating two fighters with just FOUR WINS in 48 BOUTS between them
• Trevor Bryan captured the WBA's vacant interim title by beating BJ Flores, a former cruiserweight contender who was inactive for fourteen months, lost his previous bout at cruiserweight and then only managed to subsequently overcome two boxers with 26 losses between them
• The WBA imposed a purse bid deadline for the Manuel Charr versus Trevor Bryan bout for the 17th May 2019. However, the WBA removed the purse bid deadline when they thought that both camps were close to agreeing terms, which was premature because no progress has been made on this issue
• Trevor Bryan hasn’t fought for 18 months, but still retains ownership of the WBA’s interim world title
• Manual Charr hasn’t fought for 27 months, but still retains ownership of the WBA’s regular world title
• Neither Trevor Bryan nor Manual Charr have any plans to fight in the near future and the WBA haven’t ordered them to defend their silly titles
• Manual Charr recently claimed the following: “I am not interested in a fight against Dillian Whyte. He is not a sportsman and not a challenge for me. He is an irrelevant man… This athlete should not be given a platform for a world championship.”
• Even though Fres Oquendo rejected a guaranteed opportunity to face Manuel Charr, he made the following claim: “I want my $325,000 escrow funds and to be declared champion by challenger’s default because of drug use which caused me and my boxing career irreparable damages…”
• It’s been almost six years since Fres Oquendo’s most recent victory and he continues to be classed amongst the top-15 in the world by the WBA. He’s on the cusp of turning 47 years of age and the last time he competed was in 2014
I guess a few people might get upset with me if I claimed the WBA to be an utterly rancid governing body!
If nothing else, Fres Oquendo is the WBA champion of not testing positive!!Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Feb 2020, 18:47 The timeline of events for the WBA regular world heavyweight championship are riddled with drugs and controversial practices:
• Alexander Povetkin vacates the WBA regular world title, to challenge Wladimir Klitschko, with the Russian subsequently failing multiple drug tests later on his career
• Ruslan Chagaev beats Fres Oquendo in highly-controversial circumstances, to capture the regular vacant version of the WBA's world heavyweight championship, due to the perceived corruption of RUSADA and the WBA
• Fres Oquendo successfully files lawsuits appealing the RUSADA testing protocols failing to adhere to WADA’s rules & the WBA’s misconduct of their handling of his bout against Ruslan Chagaev
• Lucas Browne defeats Ruslan Chagaev to capture the WBA regular world title, but then fails a drug test
• Lucas Browne is reinstated as the WBA’s champion and ordered to defend his title against Fres Oquendo, but the American had to withdraw from the bout due to injury, so he was ordered to face Shannon Briggs instead
• Lucas Browne is then stripped of his WBA regular world title for failing his second drug test within an eight-month period
• The WBA order Shannon Briggs and Fres Oquendo to compete for the vacant WBA regular world title
• Shannon Briggs fails a drug test and the fight is called-off
• Oquendo’s WBA world title bout against Manuel Charr was then called off, due to the German failing a drug test
• Oquendo then rejected a highly-lucrative WBA world title shot against Jarrell Miller, because ‘Big Baby’ didn’t want to undergo VADA testing. Miller then subsequently tested positive at least four times for three different banned substances whilst preparing for the AJ bout
• The WBA then decided to reinstate Manuel Charr as their regular world heavyweight champion, despite failing a drug test
• Fres Oquendo’s reluctance to face a proven drug cheat cost him his world title shot, which has resulted in Manuel Charr being ordered to defend his regular WBA title against interim WBA champion, Trevor Bryan.
• For the record, Trevor Bryan earned his shot at the interim WBA strap by defeating two fighters with just FOUR WINS in 48 BOUTS between them
• Trevor Bryan captured the WBA's vacant interim title by beating BJ Flores, a former cruiserweight contender who was inactive for fourteen months, lost his previous bout at cruiserweight and then only managed to subsequently overcome two boxers with 26 losses between them
• The WBA imposed a purse bid deadline for the Manuel Charr versus Trevor Bryan bout for the 17th May 2019. However, the WBA removed the purse bid deadline when they thought that both camps were close to agreeing terms, which was premature because no progress has been made on this issue
• Trevor Bryan hasn’t fought for 18 months, but still retains ownership of the WBA’s interim world title
• Manual Charr hasn’t fought for 27 months, but still retains ownership of the WBA’s regular world title
• Neither Trevor Bryan nor Manual Charr have any plans to fight in the near future and the WBA haven’t ordered them to defend their silly titles
• Manual Charr recently claimed the following: “I am not interested in a fight against Dillian Whyte. He is not a sportsman and not a challenge for me. He is an irrelevant man… This athlete should not be given a platform for a world championship.”
• Even though Fres Oquendo rejected a guaranteed opportunity to face Manuel Charr, he made the following claim: “I want my $325,000 escrow funds and to be declared champion by challenger’s default because of drug use which caused me and my boxing career irreparable damages…”
• It’s been almost six years since Fres Oquendo’s most recent victory and he continues to be classed amongst the top-15 in the world by the WBA. He’s on the cusp of turning 47 years of age and the last time he competed was in 2014
I guess a few people might get upset with me if I claimed the WBA to be an utterly rancid governing body!
