David Haye versus Roy Jones jr.

[DrDuke]

As if in his prime he was much better.

Yes, he was.

He always sucked in any case.

[Onetimeonly]

Yes, he was.

He always sucked in any case.

OK, that makes haye faster than Jones. You know your shit, don't cling to shit so desperately.

[DrDuke]

He always sucked in any case.

OK, that makes haye faster than Jones. You know your poo, don't cling to poo so desperately.

I never said that, you're delusional.

[Onetimeonly]

OK, that makes haye faster than Jones. You know your poo, don't cling to poo so desperately.

I never said that, you're delusional.

Yes, perhaps some day I'll find my way to your consistent perspective. You rate guys on resume when it suits you and h2h when that works better. Our contention here is you saying haye was faster than Jones. You can pick at Ruiz, whose resume is right there with your boy vitali, and talk cw and hw resumes to deflect from the fact that statement is laughable all you want. You know it too, that's why you keep going away from it. All good.

[DrDuke]

I never said that, you're delusional.

Yes, perhaps some day I'll find my way to your consistent perspective. You rate guys on resume when it suits you and h2h when that works better. Our contention here is you saying haye was faster than Jones. You can pick at Ruiz, whose resume is right there with your boy vitali, and talk cw and hw resumes to deflect from the fact that statement is laughable all you want. You know it too, that's why you keep going away from it. All good.

I wasn't talking about speed depending on the resume, I was talking about those things apart from each other. My point is that Haye was faster at the weights, where they both competed. Haye had some difficult and defining bouts there, while Jones went for a walk against Ruiz and he wasn't pushed to the limit there. We wasn't shown all the potential of Jones at HW, but anyway he wasn't that stellar, like he had been in the lighter weights, which is quite logical, because it's a bigger weight class. In Ruiz bout Jones wasn't that swift and untouchable, like in the lower weights, he fought in a more reserved and cautius way. Haye demonstrated some really impressive stuff, for example, in Chisora bout.

[Onetimeonly]

You said haye was faster than Roy at heavyweight. You were woefully wrong. Resume just came into it for something else for you to deflect from how wrong you were and the fact that you'd rather die than admit it. Continue embarrassing yourself if you'd like, I can't waste any more time on you.

[DrDuke]

You said haye was faster than Roy at heavyweight. You were woefully wrong. Resume just came into it for something else for you to deflect from how wrong you were and the fact that you'd rather die than admit it. Continue embarrassing yourself if you'd like, I can't waste any more time on you.

I was bringing different aspects that could prove the fighters' credibility in this particular weight, while you was trying to connect my different points in a single context. Well, now it seems, you're out of arguments and ready for the washout, so ok, get lost.

[Ambling Alp II]

You are saying that he is out of arguments? wow.

[Onetimeonly]

You are saying that he is out of arguments? wow.

Definitely one of the more bizarre carrying on in a while.

[DrDuke]

You are saying that he is out of arguments? wow.

Definitely one of the more bizarre carrying on in a while.

Valuating arguments of the others all the way isn't giving your own ones.

[Ambling Alp II]

Whatever.

[Onetimeonly]

Exactly.

[BoxBuzz]

Did Haye and Jones have any common opponents?

Haye's career from 2002 to 2018
Jones career from 1989 to 2018 (Unless you count the Tyson match)

[gilgamesh]

Haye never wins any mythical fight ever if I'm the guy you're asking.

[Crease]

Yeah, The Hayemaker has the power and the speed... But Roy Jones Jr is... well... THE Roy Jones Jr, probably the most complete fighter that we have seen in 30 years...

I'm going Roy on points... But I wpuld like to see a trilogy of this.