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marvelous marv wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 13:59 Arum was saying that they declined the option for British judges. I do not understand why.

According to Fury, it was the british judge last time that scored the fight in favor of Wilder.

Lol Fury is dumb then since it was the Mexican judge

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 21:03 Lol Fury is dumb then since it was the Mexican judge

Brithish judge had it a draw, yes?

Yep, and the American judge Bandog had Andrade winning on points

Wilder has that nice roid gut. No worries, he's been given a pass. Won't do him any good though, he's going to get go like a flat tire.

sturm vogel wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 21:22 Wilder has that nice roid gut. No worries, he's been given a pass. Won't do him any good though, he's going to get go like a flat tire.

Um, 'roid gut is a quite the opposite of Wilder's. It protrudes. Get yer facts straight.

I guess you took samples so you should know?

sturm vogel wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 22:13 I guess you took samples so you should know?

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 21:32

sturm vogel wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 21:22 Wilder has that nice roid gut. No worries, he's been given a pass. Won't do him any good though, he's going to get go like a flat tire.

Um, 'roid gut is a quite the opposite of Wilder's. It protrudes. Get yer facts straight.

As trim as Wilder looked at the weigh-in, I was surprised he came in at a career-high 231 pounds...18 pounds heavier than he weighed in Wilder-Fury I.

sturm vogel wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 22:13 I guess you took samples so you should know?

NSAC tests for PEDs as well as any Boxing Commission anywhere. Remember it was NSAC who busted Canelo for Clenbuterol back in 2018!! If Vegas' biggest money-maker doesnt get a pass for PEDs there is no way they will give one to a relatively low-budget fighter like Wilder!!

Best Coast wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 22:19

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 21:32

Um, 'roid gut is a quite the opposite of Wilder's. It protrudes. Get yer facts straight.

As trim as Wilder looked at the weigh-in, I was surprised he came in at a career-high 231 pounds...18 pounds heavier than he weighed in Wilder-Fury I.

He was coming off the flu for Fuy I. He's up 8-10 lbs from his average weight. he looks incredible.

Incredible...I know you like him, but you getting a little too turned on oogs? that pec bouncing get to you

Both guys look in great shape.


As they should for a fight of this magnitude

three American judges

corrupt

as usual

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Feb 2020, 04:10 Tthe viewpoint stuff is only a very minor thing when it comes to explaining crap cards and you see the same faces appear again and again even when their work is indefensible , poor judging and very low accountability is not some figment of the imagination conjured up by nutty fans

The problem is with the repeat offenders and the ones turning in stuff that is just totally unfathomable. As mentioned abovee there is very little accountability too, a lot of places are run totally buddy buddy

Blodhemn wrote: ↑20 Feb 2020, 23:26 The standard in boxing is comically low.

Thomastearns wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 13:48 If certain experienced judges continue to have wild discrepancies over individual rounds then that kind of blatant inconsistency (which renders judging an almost random process) needs immediate investigation AND acting on, not mere lip service hoping the fans will forget.

If a judge is not sure who won a particular round they can score it 10 - 10 (regardless of whatever noise the crowd are making), yet they hardly ever seem to.

Judging in boxing needs consistency round by round or it might just be fairer to settle it on a toss of the coin. Best of three if you like.

This is the entire point of Fightnight Scores (have a Google). To present more descriptive scorecards. A possible SOLUTION in attempting to root out purely bad, corrupt or unfathamable officiating without any accountability or explanation.

We made a more in depth scorecard system. This system as well as the usual round scores out of 10 requires the user to choose an option from a list of possible reasons why a round could be determined to have been won.
We also recently added another metric of "Round winning margin". As in by how much did Fighter A win the round over Fighter B (a percentage based score. e.g. 60-40). This addition is purely a way to visually represent how close each round was for our fight data analysis section.

While this isn't changing anything as such, and would by no means be an end poor or dodgy officiating IF such a system was ever used, it DOES add a snapshot into the judges thought process at that time. They need to actually think of a meaningful reason how they got that 10-9 score for the fighter who in everyone elses eyes lost the round.

It adds a little bit of accountability on the judge in question and can be referenced IF there was ever a chance of investigations into said scorecard.

We're hoping to grow our scoring community and have belief in this system that it can become the golden standard of accumulated boxing cards in determining who won fights. But we're also hoping to highlight improvements the sport can make to this ever increasingly frustrating aspect it. It's incredible to me that the judges still use pen and paper in 2020, an age of technical wizardry. We have ridiculously long delays after the final bell until the official result comes in. An automated, computerised system would eliminate that madness.

Realistically boxing is always going to be a dinosaur run by old men unwilling to implement change. But if there was enough demand from people/fans....that's how revolutions happen.

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 22:16

sturm vogel wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 22:13 I guess you took samples so you should know?

I don't think semen counts.