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DrDuke wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 14:04

thechump wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 13:55 Lewis is number one by a country mile,Fury is number 2 followed closely by AJ,AJ has the better resume at the minute but Fury has two of the best heavyweights of the last 17 years on his record other than them there isnt anyone else tbh. Fury beats AJ imo by same way he beat wilder.

I'd say, with Wilder's scalp Fury's resume became better for sure. And Fury is closer to Lewis than on a mile. I agree about the other points though.

Not just a mile a country mile which is greater than a normal mile. Lewis won and defended his titles on numerous occasions,when fury defends multiple times I will rank him closer to Lewis but at the min imo he is a long way behind the great Lennox Lewis. As for AJ record he has fought world top 10 guys since he challenged for the title where as fury has beaten 2 number one heavys at the time of fighting them,its a hard choice tbh as im typing Im juggling the two in my head lol its a tough call and its all opinion based so I can see both sides of the argument.

Still Lennox at No. 1 but Fury is assuredly gaining ground with these kind of signature, big fight wins

Fury‘s not done yet. He‘s still closing in on big Len. The question is - will Fury fight the best of his era (unlike Lennox). Or, even more interestingly, who wins between the two of them.

At the moment I would put Lewis ahead but if Fury beats AJ to take all the belts and then beats, say Usyk and a couple of other challengers then there would be a case to place him number one because he would have beaten everyone available to him in his era...

Noxy wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 14:47 Fury‘s not done yet. He‘s still closing in on big Len. The question is - will Fury fight the best of his era (unlike Lennox). Or, even more interestingly, who wins between the two of them.

Very interesting. Who would win? I would shade towards Lewis but I think with both at the height of their powers it would be a close, cagey affair

#2

The best HW in the world since Lennox. He would've humiliated Vitali

chinarich wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 14:50 At the moment I would put Lewis ahead but if Fury beats AJ to take all the belts and then beats, say Usyk and a couple of other challengers then there would be a case to place him number one because he would have beaten everyone available to him in his era...

Agree with this

He bumped himself up to #2 of British Heavyweight Champions.

If he only winds up having 3 more fights I don't imagine he passes up Lennox, if he has 5 or 6 or so, and faces the best possible opponents between now and then, then yes he may well wind up #1.

His legacy was enhanced in a gigantic way with his win last night. As it was not only a definitive, dominant win, but also one of his more exciting fights, and probably one of the biggest events he's been in.

He's as big a star as he's ever been right now.

Absolutely no point in Usyk fighting Fury.

Would be a demolition.

There is if Fury is going to keep boxing, would sure as hell beat Tom Schwarz or Otter. Usyk is still one of the most interesting guys out there

ewenhay wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 15:32 Absolutely no point in Usyk fighting Fury.

Would be a demolition.

Hell right now Usyk needs to have 2 fights in a row without needing a layoff for injury rehab before I want to see him fighting any Championship level guy.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 15:34 There is if Fury is going to keep boxing, would sure as hell beat Tom Schwarz or Otter. Usyk is still one of the most interesting guys out there

He's an arm punching cruiserweight. He's got absolutely no chance

Hardly anyone does, Schwarz and Otter certainly didn't. Fury should just retire then.

If he plans to keep going though, USYK is right up there. Let's be honest, after AJ there is hardly really any exciting opponents

Usyk can barely hold his body together long enough to get through a training camp.

He's a million miles away.

He's the WBO mandatory, he's right there for a title shot and is a player in the division. He's still one of the most interesting guys in the division

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 15:37 Hardly anyone does, Schwarz and Otter certainly didn't. Fury should just retire then.

If he plans to keep going though, USYK is right up there. Let's be honest, after AJ there is hardly really any exciting opponents

I think AJ is an easier fight than Wilder. Wilder at least has the freak power

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 15:40 He's the WBO mandatory, he's right there

Yeah coz they bought the ranking. I meant capability wise.

Sure, so they are all easy for Fury, the others aren't any better than USYK in that regard.

ewenhay wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 15:42

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 15:40 He's the WBO mandatory, he's right there

Yeah coz they bought the ranking. I meant capability wise.

No they didn't, familirize yourself with WBO policy. They give WBO champs a mandatory shot when they move up

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 15:43

ewenhay wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 15:42

Yeah coz they bought the ranking. I meant capability wise.

No they didn't, familirize yourself with WBO policy. They give WBO champs a mandatory shot when they move up

Either way it doesn't reflect his ability at heavyweight

I doubt there are more than a couple HWs who would beat him. He'd still be among Fury's better wins

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 15:43 Sure, so they are all easy for Fury, the others aren't any better than USYK in that regard.

A fit Ruiz would be dangerous. If such a thing exists anymore. Smaller heavyweight who has speed and who hits hard. Someone of that ilk.

He's too good for the other giants. Like Lewis he looks better against the other big guys because he's more skilful

And he'll just walk down light punching cruiserweights. Even if ones like Cunningham score the odd knockdown

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 15:45 I doubt there are more than a couple HWs who would beat him. He'd still be among Fury's better wins

No offence but you were adamant last night that Wilder was going to blow away a fat Fury

So?

Now I think Fury is the man and beats everyone, but if he's going to keep fighting he's going to have to fight guys we know he'll probably beat. Usyk is a very talented fighter and would still rate as one of Fury's better wins, there aren't really many more superior opponents and it would sure as hell beat the likes of Tommy S

I don't think he'll be around for more than one or two more fights in any case.