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Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 24 Feb 2020, 15:41
by margaret thatcher
He's only had one middle east fight

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 24 Feb 2020, 15:49
by Noxy
It’s a great question. Fury‘s stock keeps growing and Josh is used to being the A side. So how do they make the deal. Will either accept less than 50%?

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 24 Feb 2020, 15:50
by margaret thatcher
They should do 50-50, it's the biggest Brit fight of all time, anyone playing diva can suck a dild

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 24 Feb 2020, 15:53
by gilgamesh
margaret thatcher wrote: 24 Feb 2020, 15:41 He's only had one middle east fight
Seemed like they were talking about doing his next one there too for some reason.

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 24 Feb 2020, 15:54
by gilgamesh
Noxy wrote: 24 Feb 2020, 15:49 It’s a great question. Fury‘s stock keeps growing and Josh is used to being the A side. So how do they make the deal. Will either accept less than 50%?
I wouldn't take less than 50% if I were Fury I'll tell you that.

If I'm the #1 guy in the division, I'm not making less than the #2 guy. Not even entertaining it for a second. Just on principle.

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 24 Feb 2020, 15:58
by margaret thatcher
gilgamesh wrote: 24 Feb 2020, 15:54
Noxy wrote: 24 Feb 2020, 15:49 It’s a great question. Fury‘s stock keeps growing and Josh is used to being the A side. So how do they make the deal. Will either accept less than 50%?
I wouldn't take less than 50% if I were Fury I'll tell you that.

If I'm the #1 guy in the division, I'm not making less than the #2 guy. Not even entertaining it for a second. Just on principle.
It should be 50-50

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 24 Feb 2020, 16:00
by ewenhay
Hearn can f*ck off with his a sides and b sides.

50:50 all the way

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 24 Feb 2020, 16:30
by Grilling Machine
50:50 with a 65:35 rematch clause.

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 24 Feb 2020, 16:33
by keirw
If AJ had smashed the loudmouth Miller in his hometown and then called out an absent Wilder in the ring then he would be big in the states right now.

As it happens, he ended up getting beat convincingly by a guy that looks like he should be playing darts.

The nature of the loss to Ruiz will have damaged AJs credibility among the casuals massively.

Fury is a much more interesting character, but his unpredictable nature will probably lose him as many fans as he gains in the long run.

Right now Fury is the biggest name in boxing, and rightfully so. But AJ will fight next and will likely KO Pulev impressively. Hearn will give the big talk that he is great at to keep AJs name in the public consciousness.

I'd say by the time they fight it will probably be 50/50.

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 24 Feb 2020, 16:36
by kbackup408
I am guessing the saudis are going to put in a passive offer

£50m guarantee for both fighters and then PPV revenue

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 24 Feb 2020, 16:37
by Noxy
Indeed, 50/50 seems the way round it. Personally, I’m not counting my chickens that the fight gets made. But I really hope it does and PLEASE in the UK. No harm to Saudi but please not this time.

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 24 Feb 2020, 16:44
by margaret thatcher
keirw wrote: 24 Feb 2020, 16:33 If AJ had smashed the loudmouth Miller in his hometown and then called out an absent Wilder in the ring then he would be big in the states right now.

As it happens, he ended up getting beat convincingly by a guy that looks like he should be playing darts.

The nature of the loss to Ruiz will have damaged AJs credibility among the casuals massively.

Fury is a much more interesting character, but his unpredictable nature will probably lose him as many fans as he gains in the long run.

Right now Fury is the biggest name in boxing, and rightfully so. But AJ will fight next and will likely KO Pulev impressively. Hearn will give the big talk that he is great at to keep AJs name in the public consciousness.

I'd say by the time they fight it will probably be 50/50.
Josh vs Ruiz 2 did a UK PPV record, he's still got the casuals

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 24 Feb 2020, 16:45
by Stuarty
keirw wrote: 24 Feb 2020, 16:33 If AJ had smashed the loudmouth Miller in his hometown and then called out an absent Wilder in the ring then he would be big in the states right now.

As it happens, he ended up getting beat convincingly by a guy that looks like he should be playing darts.

The nature of the loss to Ruiz will have damaged AJs credibility among the casuals massively.

Fury is a much more interesting character, but his unpredictable nature will probably lose him as many fans as he gains in the long run.

Right now Fury is the biggest name in boxing, and rightfully so. But AJ will fight next and will likely KO Pulev impressively. Hearn will give the big talk that he is great at to keep AJs name in the public consciousness.

I'd say by the time they fight it will probably be 50/50.
:lol:

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 24 Feb 2020, 16:46
by Stuarty
margaret thatcher wrote: 24 Feb 2020, 16:44
keirw wrote: 24 Feb 2020, 16:33 If AJ had smashed the loudmouth Miller in his hometown and then called out an absent Wilder in the ring then he would be big in the states right now.

As it happens, he ended up getting beat convincingly by a guy that looks like he should be playing darts.

The nature of the loss to Ruiz will have damaged AJs credibility among the casuals massively.

Fury is a much more interesting character, but his unpredictable nature will probably lose him as many fans as he gains in the long run.

Right now Fury is the biggest name in boxing, and rightfully so. But AJ will fight next and will likely KO Pulev impressively. Hearn will give the big talk that he is great at to keep AJs name in the public consciousness.

I'd say by the time they fight it will probably be 50/50.
Josh vs Ruiz 2 did a UK PPV record, he's still got the casuals
And i still have herpes.... Doesn't stop me spreading them :yay:

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 24 Feb 2020, 18:36
by Steveh583
stujones wrote: 24 Feb 2020, 08:24 In a different way - bigger in mainstream, AJ bigger among boxing / sports fans and likely to sell more tickets quicker.

AJ won't be on Good Morning Britain or This Morning, but more likely to be on the late evening Chat shows more suited for the male demographic getting ready to go to the pub.
Complete opposite. AJ is the media trained golden boy

Edit : just read follow up post :TU:

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 24 Feb 2020, 19:06
by Coco
Steveh583 wrote: 24 Feb 2020, 18:36
stujones wrote: 24 Feb 2020, 08:24 In a different way - bigger in mainstream, AJ bigger among boxing / sports fans and likely to sell more tickets quicker.

AJ won't be on Good Morning Britain or This Morning, but more likely to be on the late evening Chat shows more suited for the male demographic getting ready to go to the pub.
Complete opposite. AJ is the media trained golden boy

Edit : just read follow up post :TU:
AJ is the man who can pack Wembley out v TBC

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 25 Feb 2020, 03:53
by Delta Jay
AJ is much, much more famous and sells many, many more tickets.

I think it’s weird this is even being debated, I really do.

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 25 Feb 2020, 04:20
by keirw
margaret thatcher wrote: 24 Feb 2020, 16:44
keirw wrote: 24 Feb 2020, 16:33 If AJ had smashed the loudmouth Miller in his hometown and then called out an absent Wilder in the ring then he would be big in the states right now.

As it happens, he ended up getting beat convincingly by a guy that looks like he should be playing darts.

The nature of the loss to Ruiz will have damaged AJs credibility among the casuals massively.

Fury is a much more interesting character, but his unpredictable nature will probably lose him as many fans as he gains in the long run.

Right now Fury is the biggest name in boxing, and rightfully so. But AJ will fight next and will likely KO Pulev impressively. Hearn will give the big talk that he is great at to keep AJs name in the public consciousness.

I'd say by the time they fight it will probably be 50/50.
Josh vs Ruiz 2 did a UK PPV record, he's still got the casuals
Maybe, I'm just going off what I see and hear at work, gym, etc..... And it seems to me less youbg lads (his target demographic) are gushing over him the way they were.

Maybe they will still pay to watch him, or maybe they tuned in to the Ruiz rematch expecting AJ to demolish him and were subsequently disappointed.

I don't know, I'm just speculating.

As I say, I imagine it will be 50/50 by the time the fight comes around. Both in terms of purses and fans in the arena.

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 25 Feb 2020, 04:33
by Bard of Boxrec
tony1234 wrote: 24 Feb 2020, 12:02 AJ has hurt his profile by losing to Ruiz and fighting in Saudi, I doubt he will ever have the popularity to sell 70k tickets on his name alone again.
Just... no.

Fury’s global stock is higher right now but Jesus, of course it is. Fans and the public are fickle. Could fury sellout Wembley fighting a knock over now? Possibly, but we know AJ can.

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 25 Feb 2020, 05:01
by Bard of Boxrec
In regards to the split, 50/50 is only plausible because of Fury’s last fight. Joshua is by far the more proven draw here and brings more of the belts, so on paper he deserves more. If I was him though I wouldn’t want to rock the boat and risk my reputation being damaged by getting fussy over a few million extra.

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 25 Feb 2020, 05:42
by Boxerbeetle
Joshua’s a much much bigger attraction, crazy that anyone would think otherwise really.

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 25 Feb 2020, 05:51
by Bard of Boxrec
gilgamesh wrote: 24 Feb 2020, 15:54
Noxy wrote: 24 Feb 2020, 15:49 It’s a great question. Fury‘s stock keeps growing and Josh is used to being the A side. So how do they make the deal. Will either accept less than 50%?
I wouldn't take less than 50% if I were Fury I'll tell you that.

If I'm the #1 guy in the division, I'm not making less than the #2 guy. Not even entertaining it for a second. Just on principle.
Who says fury is the number 1? It’s highly debatable. This fight decides it obviously but until then, this talk of fury being the clear number 1 is unfounded.

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 25 Feb 2020, 06:37
by Nightmare Roy
I genuinely think Fury would have more supporters cheering no matter where the fight was held, people love a comeback story and a character,

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 25 Feb 2020, 07:10
by Wee Tommy
On checking Instagram again this morning, Joshua has 11m followers and Tyson 3.3m same as last night. So in 24hrs it seems AJ gained a million new followers.

I’m sticking with AJ being the bigger attraction. Personally I like Fury best.

Re: Is Fury Now a Bigger Attraction than AJ?

Posted: 25 Feb 2020, 09:58
by DrDuke
I've being always saying, that Fury is the best, after he beat Klitschko. Yet overall people was gradually becoming bought on Joshua, but now everything seems to be clarified. Only Fury-Joshua bout is left to be set to make it inarguable.