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oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Feb 2020, 21:59

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑26 Feb 2020, 21:01

Lol, not at all. Not even a little. I've never played that game. Whatever, I don't care what you're talking about either.

Yeah, you do. LMFAO! so predictable.

Yes, you know all.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑26 Feb 2020, 22:10

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Feb 2020, 21:59
Yeah, you do. LMFAO! so predictable.

Yes, you know all.

No dear. That would be you. Nice try though! L8R boyo. Thanks for the laugh.

All the way back to saad when I would carry on arguments like the one you're trying to have now for pages on end and you'd never find one where I pretended to be oblivious. Carry on, hope it was worth it.

It has to be mind boggling to fight a guy who's 6-9 and using almost constant head feints.

I think Nichol Valeuv was extremely nimble on his feet considering his size.
7 ft tall and 320 lbs..

I think Nichol Valeuv was extremely nimble on his feet considering his size.
7 ft tall and 320 lbs..

He's a consultant for the Bolshoi Ballet now....they're all on a great learning curve

In Dave Anderson's book about trainers, Dundee said Ali was 6-4.

goose 5 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2020, 20:31 In Dave Anderson's book about trainers, Dundee said Ali was 6-4.

I doubt he was. He didn't look taller than Holmes or Foreman (6' 3") and was noticeably shorter than Bugner (6' 4").

I've seen Ali listed at 6'2.5 too, he didn't strike me as a 6'4 guy

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 17:10 I've seen Ali listed at 6'2.5 too, he didn't strike me as a 6'4 guy

Always had Ali at 6'3" and Foreman at 6'4". Ron Lyle is listed at 6'3 1/2" which always made me go hmmm.

You also need to examine Marciano at 5'9

Duran1970 wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 19:47 You also need to examine Marciano at 5'9

Don't believe he was that tall.

oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 20:10

Duran1970 wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 19:47 You also need to examine Marciano at 5'9

Don't believe he was that tall.

I heard he was 4'6".

For a big 6'5" guy, Biggs could move around fairly well at times, until someone started getting to him.

Biggs often fought stupid by standing flat footed and trading with guys he could easily outbox.

It doesn't really matter does it. It's the overall performance that counts, at the top level.
Fury, vitali, that's about it as 'movers'.

ewenhay wrote: ↑29 Feb 2020, 04:50

oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 20:10

Don't believe he was that tall.

I heard he was 4'6".

Rocky Marciano was 5 ft 10 and one-quarter inch tall (in his socks).

ewenhay wrote: ↑29 Feb 2020, 04:50

oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 20:10

Don't believe he was that tall.

I heard he was 4'6".

fanman wrote: ↑29 Feb 2020, 09:45 It doesn't really matter does it. It's the overall performance that counts, at the top level.
Fury, vitali, that's about it as 'movers'.

Wait a minute, timeout. Vitali was a great mover?

fanman wrote: ↑29 Feb 2020, 09:45 It doesn't really matter does it. It's the overall performance that counts, at the top level.
Fury, vitali, that's about it as 'movers'.

So I guess you had a few dreams where Vitali was moving around, and you mixed those up with real life? Or maybe you played as Vitali in a video game, and boxed off the back foot, and started thinking this is how Vitali boxed?

Because I watched him...a lot.

I get that some guys on this forum are huge fans of his hell I liked him too, but calling him a mover? Come on.

He sometimes boxed off the backfoot, like he did vs the great Cristobal Arreola. How can you not put him among the ATG movers with those type of performances??

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑01 Mar 2020, 15:48

fanman wrote: ↑29 Feb 2020, 09:45 It doesn't really matter does it. It's the overall performance that counts, at the top level.
Fury, vitali, that's about it as 'movers'.

Wait a minute, timeout. Vitali was a great mover?

Vitali was a big bloke with a great big boring left jab bear paw that kept most boxers at arm's length.

Great that big men can now be stylish boxers. Great time for boxing fans, but heavyweight division looks like a giant's game now....except it's evolved from being all about sheer size.

The head movement of Tyson is incredible........ I won't say he looks like a street fighter but he's clearly a guy who knows how to avoid getting struck.

He's been struck and dropped plenty

I think to be fair...….nobody is really saying Vitali was a supremely gifted and super-fluid mover but the original question was about the HW guys over 6-3 who at least had some decent mobility and whether Fury was the best in this class.

Fury probably is the best in this class but VK was also a serious lump in his own right and well over the 6-3 marker and he did move comparatively well in his later career - never dainty or super-rapid - but by no means a statue either.

He was closer to a statue than being a good mover. Every other fighter mentioned in thread was a better mover than him.