Definition of boxing technique

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oogiebe wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 18:10
ewenhay wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 18:09

Agreed
You mean I'm right?! :o
Or we're both wrong.

Someone will find fault with it I'm sure!
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Don't look so shocked Oogie it's not like you've never been right before. Didn't you pick Louis to beat Galento? ;-)
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candyslim wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 18:21 Don't look so shocked Oogie it's not like you've never been right before. Didn't you pick Louis to beat Galento? ;-)
LMFAO! Wasn't that you I said it to? :OhYes:
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Nah that was my gramps :lol:
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ewenhay wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 18:16
oogiebe wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 18:10
You mean I'm right?! :o
Or we're both wrong.

Someone will find fault with it I'm sure!
True that. :OhYes:
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candyslim wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 18:23 Nah that was my gramps :lol:
Shite, had I known, I'd have cut off the bloodline then. :D
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:o gulp! :D
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candyslim wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 18:29 :o gulp! :D
Really good to have ya back slim! :TU:
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Oogiebi. You know onetime

Is he still mad at me?
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RonnyJ wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 18:51 Oogiebi. You know onetime

Is he still mad at me?
Why would you worry about that? He's a crusty poster. Get used to it.
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Thank you my friend and it's good to back ... among my fellow boxing loving weirdos :-x

He's right Ronny and for the record I don't think you're stupid. And even if I did you'd still be welcome here. There's no entry exam.
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oogiebe wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 18:41
candyslim wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 18:29 :o gulp! :D
Really good to have ya back slim! :TU:
Did he leave

Hy slim. Its me jip. I am back too under a different name
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RonnyJ wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 18:51 Oogiebi. You know onetime

Is he still mad at me?
he knows oneslime inside out. as vice versa.
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adislav123 wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 23:17
RonnyJ wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 18:51 Oogiebi. You know onetime

Is he still mad at me?
he knows oneslime inside out. as vice versa.
I'm not mad at either of you. You're more troll than jip, he's just clueless. Im just trying not to carry on with stupid shit anymore. Asjatc, illusova, dwarf Carver, hater, haye slayer, you're more bearable than jip. You're both useless but a troll is better than a whiny stubborn moron defending absurd opinions. Either way, I ain't mad atchya jip, just not worth talking boxing with. Asjact is just a troll, I'll engage him here or there
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RonnyJ wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 19:35
oogiebe wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 18:41

Really good to have ya back slim! :TU:
Did he leave

Hy slim. Its me jip. I am back too under a different name
It's like The Hotel California. You can check out but you can never leave. Welcome back Jip.
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It's like Westworld.


They just come back in a different outfit in another part of the boxrec theme park
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Let's hope it doesn't go south like Westworld :D
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candyslim wrote: 15 Mar 2020, 04:16
RonnyJ wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 19:35

Did he leave

Hy slim. Its me jip. I am back too under a different name
It's like The Hotel California. You can check out but you can never leave. Welcome back Jip.
:TU:
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Onetimeonly wrote: 15 Mar 2020, 03:41
adislav123 wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 23:17

he knows oneslime inside out. as vice versa.
I'm not mad at either of you. You're more troll than jip, he's just clueless. Im just trying not to carry on with stupid poo anymore. Asjatc, illusova, dwarf Carver, hater, haye slayer, you're more bearable than jip. You're both useless but a troll is better than a whiny stubborn moron defending absurd opinions. Either way, I ain't mad atchya jip, just not worth talking boxing with. Asjact is just a troll, I'll engage him here or there
You right. Sometimes i am stubborn. I even dont like it myself. Peace
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RonnyJ wrote: 15 Mar 2020, 06:19
Onetimeonly wrote: 15 Mar 2020, 03:41

I'm not mad at either of you. You're more troll than jip, he's just clueless. Im just trying not to carry on with stupid poo anymore. Asjatc, illusova, dwarf Carver, hater, haye slayer, you're more bearable than jip. You're both useless but a troll is better than a whiny stubborn moron defending absurd opinions. Either way, I ain't mad atchya jip, just not worth talking boxing with. Asjact is just a troll, I'll engage him here or there
You right. Sometimes i am stubborn. I even dont like it myself. Peace
not that it matters but i don't even have a clue who those guys i supposedly should write under their aliases are.

never have i written a single letter under any other name than adislav123 on here. i see no reason why i'd even come to that idea. :brick:

now on to svckin' one another silly oneslime & oog!!
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RonnyJ wrote: 15 Mar 2020, 06:19
Onetimeonly wrote: 15 Mar 2020, 03:41

I'm not mad at either of you. You're more troll than jip, he's just clueless. Im just trying not to carry on with stupid poo anymore. Asjatc, illusova, dwarf Carver, hater, haye slayer, you're more bearable than jip. You're both useless but a troll is better than a whiny stubborn moron defending absurd opinions. Either way, I ain't mad atchya jip, just not worth talking boxing with. Asjact is just a troll, I'll engage him here or there
You right. Sometimes i am stubborn. I even dont like it myself. Peace
I'm stubborn as a mule, I've just never been so boisterous and boastful about something I have such limited knowledge about. I knew more about boxing than you when I was 7. You take care.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 15 Mar 2020, 10:26
RonnyJ wrote: 15 Mar 2020, 06:19

You right. Sometimes i am stubborn. I even dont like it myself. Peace
I'm stubborn as a mule, I've just never been so boisterous and boastful about something I have such limited knowledge about. I knew more about boxing than you when I was 7. You take care.
You still angry or calmed down.

Is there a reason why you a bit angry or just because i was stubborn. I have a feeling there is something else..
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Technique is what is generally taught in most colleges and sporting academies because it can be readily understood and developed into a habit if learned early enough eg keeping a straight bat in cricket, or keeping your head down when shooting in football, or keeping your head absolutely still in snooker/shooting etc

I've personally never been a great fan of technique myself because some of its most accomplished practitioners were not my cup of tea when it came to spectating. For example there was Steve Davis in snooker, Geoff Boycott in cricket, Christiano Ronaldo in football, Terry Marsh in boxing.

Whilst I admire and respect all of these names they simply left me cold when comparing them with the likes of Alex 'hurricane' Higgins, Viv Richards (West Indies), Socrates (Brazil), and of course the ultimate iconoclast, Muhammad Ali.

These guys seemed to be able tear up and throw away the coaching manuals with their other-worldly talent.

However, as we know these kinds of talents only seem to come around once in a blue moon and that's why we see the heavy emphasis on technique nowadays.

Technique is time proven as the surer road to success. Even if your name is Deontay Wilder.
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RonnyJ wrote: 13 Mar 2020, 03:10what irritates me a bit is, there seem to be different oppinions on boxing technique. for example prime roy jones jr got hit less or similar very little as floyd mayweather, but floyd gets praised a genius technician and roy not.
According to CompuBox, Mayweather’s plus/minus ratio is more impressive than Jones Jr’s (i.e. +23.8 versus +19.8).

Also, Mayweather’s opponents landed just 22.5% of their total punches in comparison to 27.9% of Jones Jr’s opponents.

The differences in these stats are significant. They should not be underestimated.

Reviewing these figures in their true context, Mayweather’s resume (in terms of accomplishments) and also the general calibre of opposition he faced is far superior than Jones Jr’s.

The prime version of Roy Jones Jr. primarily relied upon a combination of his remarkable athletic ability and unorthodox fighting style, because his boxing fundamentals and ring IQ was inferior to Floyd Mayweather’s.

The reason why Jones Jr’s career declined so rapidly, became a shot fighter seemingly overnight, was his failure to adapt to his fighting style to cater for his own physical decline. He didn’t have the skills and ring IQ to fall back on, since he continuously tried to fight like the younger version of himself against opponents’ whose athleticism was greater than his own.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 16 Mar 2020, 05:46
RonnyJ wrote: 13 Mar 2020, 03:10what irritates me a bit is, there seem to be different oppinions on boxing technique. for example prime roy jones jr got hit less or similar very little as floyd mayweather, but floyd gets praised a genius technician and roy not.
According to CompuBox, Mayweather’s plus/minus ratio is more impressive than Jones Jr’s (i.e. +23.8 versus +19.8).

Also, Mayweather’s opponents landed just 22.5% of their total punches in comparison to 27.9% of Jones Jr’s opponents.

The differences in these stats are significant. They should not be underestimated.

Reviewing these figures in their true context, Mayweather’s resume (in terms of accomplishments) and also the general calibre of opposition he faced is far superior than Jones Jr’s.

The prime version of Roy Jones Jr. primarily relied upon a combination of his remarkable athletic ability and unorthodox fighting style, because his boxing fundamentals and ring IQ was inferior to Floyd Mayweather’s.

The reason why Jones Jr’s career declined so rapidly, became a shot fighter seemingly overnight, was his failure to adapt to his fighting style to cater for his own physical decline. He didn’t have the skills and ring IQ to fall back on, since he continuously tried to fight like the younger version of himself against opponents’ whose athleticism was greater than his own.


If you read my post correctly, i wrote prime jones, not past prime jones.

When both were prime, floyd and roy, opponents landed lesser punches on jones, than on mayweather.

During the prime, which ended for roy for the ruiz fight and for floyd (he said it himself once in an interview the mitchell fight). During the prime roy fought better opponents than floyd. Facing castillo, corrales and gatti is impressiv, but facing toney, hopkins, pazienza, mccallum is far more impressiv.

Also, i dont trust compubox. Go watch the video where one fan postet 1 complet rd, i think it was arguably the best rd cotto had against mayweather, in this rd, the boxing fan counted every single punch from both boxers and at the end cotto had much more punches landed than floyd, but compubox had floyd easily outlanding cotto for this rd. Just doesnt make sense. Refs are often rigged, judges are often rigged, so why not the person who presses the button counting landed punches. Sure, favouring the a side, the money maker, i get it. But sport should be equal and not favoured who brings more cash.

The difinition of technique is
=a skilful or efficient way of doing or achieving something.
In boxing this would mean hit and not get hit.
Meaning, the better you are in hit and not get hit, the better your technique is.
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