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Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 18 Apr 2020, 18:52
by diddy
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 06:47
diddy wrote: ↑17 Apr 2020, 16:04
Your agenda to keep sports from happening is curious. And likely politically fueled. You would rather NO SPORTS than sports with no fans? That is nonsensical. Anything is better than nothing.
My agenda? Really?
From a personal perspective, I have no influence as to whether sporting events take place or not. No one even listens to me... ever!
My thoughts are based on real-world events and restrictions, not naive child-like optimism.
I don’t want there to be deaths or for people to endure a traumatic experience due to COVID-19.
I don’t want there to be mass unemployment, bankrupt economies and massive debt due to government lockdowns.
I don’t want there to be any restrictions imposed on people’s freedom, which results in them being stuck indoors with very little to do, affecting their mental health and happiness.
I’d love to see live sport again on TV, but it isn’t going to happen for quite some time... and those rare sporting events that do take place eventually, will inevitably be compromised severely and presented in a format that is far inferior than what we’re all accustomed to (as per the real-world examples I previously supplied).
I’m sorry, but is my stance on this matter really so abhorrent and unreasonable?
Why do you and like-minded individuals always insist on misrepresenting my opinion, by accusing me of believing in things that I’ve never even written?
You just seem to be looking for reasons for events not to happen. First it was the safety (which I get), then it was lack of proper testing, now it’s because “it won’t be the same without fans.” The WWE is putting on shows. What’s the difference? You ban the public. You test the fighters and staff the week of events. If they’re not cleared they don’t participate. They need one damn doctor to attend the event. One doctor for a few hours isn’t going to have any effect on the Coronavirus. That argument is absolutely preposterous.
Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 18 Apr 2020, 19:30
by Enlightened-One
diddy wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 18:52
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 06:47
My agenda? Really?
From a personal perspective, I have no influence as to whether sporting events take place or not. No one even listens to me... ever!
My thoughts are based on real-world events and restrictions, not naive child-like optimism.
I don’t want there to be deaths or for people to endure a traumatic experience due to COVID-19.
I don’t want there to be mass unemployment, bankrupt economies and massive debt due to government lockdowns.
I don’t want there to be any restrictions imposed on people’s freedom, which results in them being stuck indoors with very little to do, affecting their mental health and happiness.
I’d love to see live sport again on TV, but it isn’t going to happen for quite some time... and those rare sporting events that do take place eventually, will inevitably be compromised severely and presented in a format that is far inferior than what we’re all accustomed to (as per the real-world examples I previously supplied).
I’m sorry, but is my stance on this matter really so abhorrent and unreasonable?
Why do you and like-minded individuals always insist on misrepresenting my opinion, by accusing me of believing in things that I’ve never even written?
You just seem to be looking for reasons for events not to happen. First it was the safety (which I get), then it was lack of proper testing, now it’s because “it won’t be the same without fans.” The WWE is putting on shows. What’s the difference? You ban the public. You test the fighters and staff the week of events. If they’re not cleared they don’t participate. They need one damn doctor to attend the event. One doctor for a few hours isn’t going to have any effect on the Coronavirus. That argument is absolutely preposterous.
The various authorities should decide whether professionally trained medical personnel should be allowed to abandon their posts treating COVID-19 patients in order to attend a boxing event being staged for purely entertainment and fiscal reasons.
Any event whereby the likely outcome is physical harm will definitely need more than one doctor.
If you disagree, then please share your knowledge about the typical amount of professionally trained medical professionals currently attending sporting events.
I want sporting events to resume, as long as it definitely doesn’t compromise hospitals.
You still haven’t explained the reason why you lied about my stance, when you claimed I held an opinion that I’ve never articulated to this forum.
Are you being a fûckïng coward and side-stepping a “preposterous” lie you cannot possibly substantiate? You’ve refused to explain the reason for your lie.
Put it this way kid, since I assume you’re merely a teenager based on your conduct, being dishonest only serves to tarnish your own reputation.
A liar like you shouldn’t dare to use words like “preposterous”, when you feel compelled to constantly lie.

Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 18 Apr 2020, 19:51
by diddy
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 19:30
diddy wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 18:52
You just seem to be looking for reasons for events not to happen. First it was the safety (which I get), then it was lack of proper testing, now it’s because “it won’t be the same without fans.” The WWE is putting on shows. What’s the difference? You ban the public. You test the fighters and staff the week of events. If they’re not cleared they don’t participate. They need one damn doctor to attend the event. One doctor for a few hours isn’t going to have any effect on the Coronavirus. That argument is absolutely preposterous.
The various authorities should decide whether professionally trained medical personnel should be allowed to abandon their posts treating COVID-19 patients in order to attend a boxing event being staged for purely entertainment and fiscal reasons.
Any event whereby the likely outcome is physical harm will definitely need more than one doctor.
If you disagree, then please share your knowledge about the typical amount of professionally trained medical professionals currently attending sporting events.
I want sporting events to resume, as long as it definitely doesn’t compromise hospitals.
You still haven’t explained the reason why you lied about my stance, when you claimed I held an opinion that I’ve never articulated to this forum.
Are you being a fûckïng coward and side-stepping a “preposterous” lie you cannot possibly substantiate? You’ve refused to explain the reason for your lie.
Put it this way kid, since I assume you’re merely a teenager based on your conduct, being dishonest only serves to tarnish your own reputation.
A liar like you shouldn’t dare to use words like “preposterous”, when you feel compelled to constantly lie.
Cut the BS please. You talked about "not being able to get doctors away from hospitals to tend to the fighters." Obviously they would have to clear that hurdle before staging events, no? Read your posts in the COVID thread. You outed yourself with the "I'm not sure if China covered anything up" stuff. That you ACTUALLY believe that with what every country around the world has found in their investigations outs you as a left wing nut looking to scapegoat the president for the problem here in hopes to bump him out of office. The UK did an investigation into China's flight itineraries over a 45 day period from late Dec to early Feb and found China banned all flights from Wuhan to other parts of China, but didnt ban them from Wuhan to any other country. Then had the WHO lie for them because they fill their pockets with millions. China may as well have aimed a biological weapon at the rest of the world and declared war.
Look, I get it. I dont like Trump much either, but your agenda is quite clear and not an uncommon one in the US. Drag this out as long as possible in hopes the backlash gets people emotional enough to place your favored political party back into office. Coming from someone who hates all politicians and rarely votes I can unbiasedly say they're full of varying degrees of sh*t which is why I rarely even bother to vote. I dont trust ANY of them.
Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 18 Apr 2020, 19:56
by oogiebe
diddy wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 19:51
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 19:30
The various authorities should decide whether professionally trained medical personnel should be allowed to abandon their posts treating COVID-19 patients in order to attend a boxing event being staged for purely entertainment and fiscal reasons.
Any event whereby the likely outcome is physical harm will definitely need more than one doctor.
If you disagree, then please share your knowledge about the typical amount of professionally trained medical professionals currently attending sporting events.
I want sporting events to resume, as long as it definitely doesn’t compromise hospitals.
You still haven’t explained the reason why you lied about my stance, when you claimed I held an opinion that I’ve never articulated to this forum.
Are you being a fûckïng coward and side-stepping a “preposterous” lie you cannot possibly substantiate? You’ve refused to explain the reason for your lie.
Put it this way kid, since I assume you’re merely a teenager based on your conduct, being dishonest only serves to tarnish your own reputation.
A liar like you shouldn’t dare to use words like “preposterous”, when you feel compelled to constantly lie.
Cut the BS please. You talked about "not being able to get doctors away from hospitals to tend to the fighters." Obviously they would have to clear that hurdle before staging events, no? Read your posts in the COVID thread. You outed yourself with the "I'm not sure if China covered anything up" stuff. That you ACTUALLY believe that with what every country around the world has found in their investigations outs you as a left wing nut looking to scapegoat the president for the problem here in hopes to bump him out of office. The UK did an investigation into China's flight itineraries over a 45 day period from late Dec to early Feb and found China banned all flights from Wuhan to other parts of China, but didnt ban them from Wuhan to any other country. Then had the WHO lie for them because they fill their pockets with millions. China may as well have aimed a biological weapon at the rest of the world and declared war.
Look, I get it. I dont like Trump much either, but your agenda is quite clear and not an uncommon one in the US. Drag this out as long as possible in hopes the backlash gets people emotional enough to place your favored political party back into office. Coming from someone who hates all politicians and rarely votes I can unbiasedly say they're full of varying degrees of sh*t which is why I rarely even bother to vote. I dont trust ANY of them.
I think there will be minor shows coming soon on the horizon. Don't bother with EO. He'll subtly change his points over time to suit the argument. Can't debate with a narcisist.
Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 18 Apr 2020, 21:06
by Enlightened-One
diddy wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 19:51
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 19:30
The various authorities should decide whether professionally trained medical personnel should be allowed to abandon their posts treating COVID-19 patients in order to attend a boxing event being staged for purely entertainment and fiscal reasons.
Any event whereby the likely outcome is physical harm will definitely need more than one doctor.
If you disagree, then please share your knowledge about the typical amount of professionally trained medical professionals currently attending sporting events.
I want sporting events to resume, as long as it definitely doesn’t compromise hospitals.
You still haven’t explained the reason why you lied about my stance, when you claimed I held an opinion that I’ve never articulated to this forum.
Are you being a fûckïng coward and side-stepping a “preposterous” lie you cannot possibly substantiate? You’ve refused to explain the reason for your lie.
Put it this way kid, since I assume you’re merely a teenager based on your conduct, being dishonest only serves to tarnish your own reputation.
A liar like you shouldn’t dare to use words like “preposterous”, when you feel compelled to constantly lie.
Cut the BS please. You talked about "not being able to get doctors away from hospitals to tend to the fighters." Obviously they would have to clear that hurdle before staging events, no? Read your posts in the COVID thread. You outed yourself with the "I'm not sure if China covered anything up" stuff. That you ACTUALLY believe that with what every country around the world has found in their investigations outs you as a left wing nut looking to scapegoat the president for the problem here in hopes to bump him out of office. The UK did an investigation into China's flight itineraries over a 45 day period from late Dec to early Feb and found China banned all flights from Wuhan to other parts of China, but didnt ban them from Wuhan to any other country. Then had the WHO lie for them because they fill their pockets with millions. China may as well have aimed a biological weapon at the rest of the world and declared war.
Look, I get it. I dont like Trump much either, but your agenda is quite clear and not an uncommon one in the US. Drag this out as long as possible in hopes the backlash gets people emotional enough to place your favored political party back into office. Coming from someone who hates all politicians and rarely votes I can unbiasedly say they're full of varying degrees of sh*t which is why I rarely even bother to vote. I dont trust ANY of them.
You still haven’t answered my question about misrepresenting my thoughts.
You’re using diversionary tactics to avoid addressing questions you clearly can’t answer.
Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 18 Apr 2020, 21:08
by diddy
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 21:06
diddy wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 19:51
Cut the BS please. You talked about "not being able to get doctors away from hospitals to tend to the fighters." Obviously they would have to clear that hurdle before staging events, no? Read your posts in the COVID thread. You outed yourself with the "I'm not sure if China covered anything up" stuff. That you ACTUALLY believe that with what every country around the world has found in their investigations outs you as a left wing nut looking to scapegoat the president for the problem here in hopes to bump him out of office. The UK did an investigation into China's flight itineraries over a 45 day period from late Dec to early Feb and found China banned all flights from Wuhan to other parts of China, but didnt ban them from Wuhan to any other country. Then had the WHO lie for them because they fill their pockets with millions. China may as well have aimed a biological weapon at the rest of the world and declared war.
Look, I get it. I dont like Trump much either, but your agenda is quite clear and not an uncommon one in the US. Drag this out as long as possible in hopes the backlash gets people emotional enough to place your favored political party back into office. Coming from someone who hates all politicians and rarely votes I can unbiasedly say they're full of varying degrees of sh*t which is why I rarely even bother to vote. I dont trust ANY of them.
You still haven’t answered my question about misrepresenting my thoughts.
You’re using diversionary tactics to avoid addressing questions you clearly can’t answer.
How's my aim?
Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 18 Apr 2020, 21:10
by Enlightened-One
oogiebe wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 19:56
Don't bother with EO. He'll subtly change his points over time to suit the argument. Can't debate with a narcisist.
However, I keep asking the same question time-and-time again, and yet people like yourself can’t answer it.
Why you do you persistently lie about my stance, whilst constantly refusing to justify your accusations?
Is it because you’re a liar and resort to ad hominem attacks rather than being honest?
Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 18 Apr 2020, 21:12
by Enlightened-One
diddy wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 21:08
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 21:06
You still haven’t answered my question about misrepresenting my thoughts.
You’re using diversionary tactics to avoid addressing questions you clearly can’t answer.
How's my aim?
You’ve lied about my stance but you’ve made absolutely no attempt whatsoever to justify my claims by actually citing my words.
You are clearly fearful of directly addressing my words, because they’re inconveniently far too accurate to undermine.
Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 18 Apr 2020, 21:12
by diddy
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 21:10
oogiebe wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 19:56
Don't bother with EO. He'll subtly change his points over time to suit the argument. Can't debate with a narcisist.
However, I keep asking the same question time-and-time again, and yet people like yourself can’t answer it.
Why you do you persistently lie about my stance, whilst constantly refusing to justify your accusations?
Is it because you’re a liar and resort to ad hominem attacks rather than being honest?
Lie about what? Your comments are clear as day in the covid thread, you move more goalposts than a field goal kicker. Cmon, Obama.
Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 18 Apr 2020, 21:14
by Enlightened-One
diddy wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 21:12
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 21:10
However, I keep asking the same question time-and-time again, and yet people like yourself can’t answer it.
Why you do you persistently lie about my stance, whilst constantly refusing to justify your accusations?
Is it because you’re a liar and resort to ad hominem attacks rather than being honest?
Lie about what? Your comments are clear as day in the covid thread, you move more goalposts than a field goal kicker. Cmon, Obama.
Either quote my words or shut the fück up!
You won’t attempt to do this, because it’ll unveil your own dishonesty.
Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 18 Apr 2020, 21:18
by diddy
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 21:14
diddy wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 21:12
Lie about what? Your comments are clear as day in the covid thread, you move more goalposts than a field goal kicker. Cmon, Obama.
Either quote my words or shut the fück up!
You won’t attempt to do this, because it’ll unveil your own dishonesty.
Your outright refusal to dispute me calling out your clearly political agenda rests my case. Though it didnt take a genius to figure out. I suspected it while you were making certain points. You confirmed it when you tried to give China the benefit of the doubt. What I love most about the left is they're using this corona crap as a political vehicle and waxing poetic about how they care so much about lives yet justify abortions at 7 months. Makes total sense.
Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 18 Apr 2020, 21:23
by Onetimeonly
Don't bother with him diddy. He's always wrong and just changes the topic when you prove him wrong. Troll, waste of time.
Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 18 Apr 2020, 21:26
by Enlightened-One
diddy wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 21:18
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 21:14
Either quote my words or shut the fück up!
You won’t attempt to do this, because it’ll unveil your own dishonesty.
Your outright refusal to dispute me calling out your clearly political agenda rests my case. Though it didnt take a genius to figure out. I suspected it while you were making certain points. You confirmed it when you tried to give China the benefit of the doubt. What I love most about the left is they're using this corona crap as a political vehicle and waxing poetic about how they care so much about lives yet justify abortions at 7 months. Makes total sense.
You still haven’t quoted my words.
I’m not going to defend an opinion I haven’t conveyed.
You are a liar and instead of attempting to justify your stance, you keep digging yourself a deeper hole by uttering more fictional claims.
Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 18 Apr 2020, 21:40
by oogiebe
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 21:10
oogiebe wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 19:56
Don't bother with EO. He'll subtly change his points over time to suit the argument. Can't debate with a narcisist.
However, I keep asking the same question time-and-time again, and yet people like yourself can’t answer it.
Why you do you persistently lie about my stance, whilst constantly refusing to justify your accusations?
Is it because you’re a liar and resort to ad hominem attacks rather than being honest?
Yes, everyone lies about you EO. It's everyone else.

Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 18 Apr 2020, 23:19
by Paci
oogiebe wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 16:14
Paci wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 07:22
A strong card would sellout anything.
Especially now. A great time to try something new. I'd bet even a card of no names would make some dough. I"d pay 25.00 for a night of boxing right now.
Haha! You need your fix
Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 19 Apr 2020, 17:27
by oogiebe
Paci wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 23:19
oogiebe wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 16:14
Especially now. A great time to try something new. I'd bet even a card of no names would make some dough. I"d pay 25.00 for a night of boxing right now.
Haha! You need your fix
I really do. I've gotten to the end of YouTube boxing vids.
Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 19 Apr 2020, 17:38
by Paci
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Apr 2020, 17:27
Paci wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 23:19
Haha! You need your fix
I really do. I've gotten to the end of YouTube boxing vids.
Damn...

Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 19 Apr 2020, 18:31
by gilgamesh
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Apr 2020, 17:27
Paci wrote: ↑18 Apr 2020, 23:19
Haha! You need your fix
I really do. I've gotten to the end of YouTube boxing vids.
I sincerely doubt that Oog's. There's gotta be classic fights to go on for months and months on YouTube.
Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 19 Apr 2020, 18:36
by Onetimeonly
If anyone has never seen davila/duarte 2 there is an hour well spent. Maybe the best bantam fight ever.
Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 19 Apr 2020, 19:28
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Apr 2020, 18:36
If anyone has never seen davila/duarte 2 there is an hour well spent. Maybe the best bantam fight ever.
Just qued it up. Set up a thread with more recommendations please.
Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 19 Apr 2020, 19:28
by oogiebe
gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Apr 2020, 18:31
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Apr 2020, 17:27
I really do. I've gotten to the end of YouTube boxing vids.
I sincerely doubt that Oog's. There's gotta be classic fights to go on for months and months on YouTube.
Duh! It's called exaggeration to make a point.
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Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 19 Apr 2020, 19:41
by Onetimeonly
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Apr 2020, 19:28
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Apr 2020, 18:36
If anyone has never seen davila/duarte 2 there is an hour well spent. Maybe the best bantam fight ever.
Just qued it up. Set up a thread with more recommendations please.
Bloody as a rocky movie. You set up the thread ya lazy bastard!
Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 19 Apr 2020, 19:47
by Onetimeonly
Charles brewer vs Scott pemberton
Merqui Sosa vs prince Charles Williams
I've been pimping Lee/locicero for so long I think everyone has seen that by now. If not it's much better than hagler/hearns.
That's what pisses me off with ESPN, they could toss Lee/locicero in the middle of their Ali/Tyson fights. 11 hours of boxing yesterday and I didn't watch a second.
Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 19 Apr 2020, 19:49
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Apr 2020, 19:41
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Apr 2020, 19:28
Just qued it up. Set up a thread with more recommendations please.
Bloody as a rocky movie. You set up the thread ya lazy bastard!
LOL! That I am. Just got through round two. I"m hooked. Like the way it's shaping up.
Re: Bob Arum wants to use WWE Performance Center in Summer
Posted: 19 Apr 2020, 19:54
by Onetimeonly
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Apr 2020, 19:49
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Apr 2020, 19:41
Bloody as a rocky movie. You set up the thread ya lazy bastard!
LOL! That I am. Just got through round two. I"m hooked. Like the way it's shaping up.
I'm about to play a poker tournament. Start a thread and I'll post after Jordan. I did a 100 favorite fights years ago. I'll see if I can find that. Enjoy, that's a beauty.