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Re: BoxRec Hall of Fame Ballot May 2020

Posted: 15 May 2020, 11:05
by DrDuke
However, it's good, that you told me this right now. I've noticed, that I missed Tyson. The time is still OK, so I change my list. Gatti out, Tyson in.

Max Baer
James Braddock
Floyd Patterson
Ingemar Johansson
Ken Norton
Jimmy Young
Jerry Quarry
Lennox Lewis
Riddick Bowe
Mike Tyson
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Matthew Saad Muhammad
Joey Maxim
Georges Carpentier
Joe Calzaghe
Thomas Hearns
Julio Cesar Chavez
Oscar De La Hoya
Felix Trinidad
Donald Curry
Lloyd Honeyghan
Rodrigo Valdez
Kostya Tszyu
Aaron Pryor
Michael Carbajal

Re: BoxRec Hall of Fame Ballot May 2020

Posted: 15 May 2020, 14:52
by Ambling Alp II
The following have been elected to the Boxrec Hall of Fame :
Julio Cesar Chavez, Oscar De La Hoya, Thomas Hearns, Lennox Lewis, Aaron Pryor, and Mike Tyson.
More details to come.

Re: BoxRec Hall of Fame Ballot May 2020

Posted: 15 May 2020, 15:45
by margaret thatcher
Surprised only 1 person voted for Buchanan

Re: BoxRec Hall of Fame Ballot May 2020

Posted: 15 May 2020, 21:07
by Ambling Alp II
A rundown of the voting:

11 people voted. 8 were needed to be elected.
Thomas Hearns received 11 votes
Chavez, Lewis, Pryor, and Tyson received 9 votes.
Del La Hoya received 8.

Calzaghe received 7 votes.
Qawi, had 6.
Canto, Herman, Maxim, Laciar, Patterson, and Trinidad received 5.
Arizmendi, Booker, Brown, Carbajal, Carpentier, Mandell, O'Dowd, Wolgast, Yarosz, and Lopez received 4.
Apostoli, Chang, Griffo, Nelson, Valdez had 3.
Petrolle, Kid Williams, Curry, Kingpetch, Wright, Canizales, Cocoa Kid, Pladner, Sahapran, Yu, Honeyghan, each had 2.
Many others had 1.

Thanks to all that voted.

Re: BoxRec Hall of Fame Ballot May 2020

Posted: 15 May 2020, 21:11
by Seamus
Not much support for Old Timers and lighter weights.

Re: BoxRec Hall of Fame Ballot May 2020

Posted: 15 May 2020, 21:26
by Ambling Alp II
To some degree, this has to do with there being 8 years since we did a vote. The big name guys over that period that became eligible got elected. Normally, there would not be so many of them to compete with.
Guess, it depends on what you consider an "Old Timer" . Patterson and Maxim got some some support with 5 votes.
Pre-World War II though, Pete Herman was the only one with 5 votes.

Re: BoxRec Hall of Fame Ballot May 2020

Posted: 15 May 2020, 22:16
by margaret thatcher
Ambling Alp II wrote: 15 May 2020, 21:07 A rundown of the voting:

11 people voted. 8 were needed to be elected.
Thomas Hearns received 11 votes
Chavez, Lewis, Pryor, and Tyson received 9 votes.
Del La Hoya received 8.

Calzaghe received 7 votes.
Qawi, had 6.
Canto, Herman, Maxim, Laciar, Patterson, and Trinidad received 5.
Arizmendi, Booker, Brown, Carbajal, Carpentier, Mandell, O'Dowd, Wolgast, Yarosz, and Lopez received 4.
Apostoli, Chang, Griffo, Nelson, Valdez had 3.
Petrolle, Kid Williams, Curry, Kingpetch, Wright, Canizales, Cocoa Kid, Pladner, Sahapran each had 2.
Many others had 1.

Thanks to all that voted.
The Honeyman also got 2 :OhYes:

Re: BoxRec Hall of Fame Ballot May 2020

Posted: 16 May 2020, 18:28
by mjaco
Ambling Alp II wrote: 15 May 2020, 21:26 To some degree, this has to do with there being 8 years since we did a vote. The big name guys over that period that became eligible got elected. Normally, there would not be so many of them to compete with.
Guess, it depends on what you consider an "Old Timer" . Patterson and Maxim got some some support with 5 votes.
Pre-World War II though, Pete Herman was the only one with 5 votes.
Congratulations to the fighters who were elected. Regarding old timers and lighter weight fighters, some of them probably did deserve more support. There are at least a couple of the pre-WWII fighters who, just on the merits, would certainly seem to have deserved induction. I think a lot of it comes down to many people just being less familiar with their careers than those of more contemporary fighters.

I'd like to suggest that in next year's election (and I think only doing this once a year going forward would be best) there should be a week or two devoted to debate before anyone is allowed to vote. Also perhaps it should be mandatory that anyone who wants to cast a ballot should first have to post at least once discussing the pros and cons of some of the fighters who received at least 2 votes in this year's election. Maybe that would help familiarize more voters with some of the lesser known boxers they hadn't considered.

Re: BoxRec Hall of Fame Ballot May 2020

Posted: 16 May 2020, 18:49
by margaret thatcher
Look at who was elected in previous years, then you'll instantly know why this vote was leaning toward more recent fighters.That had to come at some point when past votes already took so many old timers (and hence widdled down the quality of the available old timer pool to a greater extent).

Re: BoxRec Hall of Fame Ballot May 2020

Posted: 17 May 2020, 14:03
by Ambling Alp II
To some degree that is true. Greb, Armstrong, etc are already in. However, there is still some great fighters from long ago that didn't even come close.
Not a big surprise. The very best from an era are often remembered. However, the guys just a little below them get forgotton. Some people have little interest before their own interest in the sport began.
One thing that we really don't know is what guys just missed being on someone's ballot.

Re: BoxRec Hall of Fame Ballot May 2020

Posted: 17 May 2020, 14:59
by Seamus
Jimmy Leto and Frankie Burns each have 8 wins against Hall of Famers. They haven't made the Boxrec HOF or the IBHOF.

Re: BoxRec Hall of Fame Ballot May 2020

Posted: 28 Jun 2021, 16:02
by 526223
BoxRec still has not put the IBHOF logo on Jung Koo Chang's bio page. Please correct. Thank you.