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margaret thatcher wrote: ↑29 May 2020, 20:05 Dunno, didn't ruin them though

i would say macklin came of better ,not just because he went on to fight for world titltes. he was faviourt for that fight,but blew his load early if i remember , and he learnt from that,and was unlucky against strum after

brilo33 wrote: ↑29 May 2020, 17:03

Cent0089 wrote: ↑29 May 2020, 14:08 Canelo learned from Mayweather loss how to be top boxer and rich man. Meanwhile, guys like Andrade and Charlo collecting pennies and maintaining their undefeated records.

Daniel Jacobs changed his style after KO loss from Pirog, becoming more tough and physical, it helped him a lot.

Vasyl Lomachenko learned from Salido fight a lot.

These coming to my mind

great call ,very true about vasyl.i remeber that everyone was expecting him to wipe the floor with salido or look class bashing him , well it never happened , but what a great learning fight ,learnt to deal with pressure of being big favourite and not delivering and if he never lost that fight i dont think he would be the fighter he is today

Still the best fighter he's fought.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑29 May 2020, 21:04

brilo33 wrote: ↑29 May 2020, 17:03

great call ,very true about vasyl.i remeber that everyone was expecting him to wipe the floor with salido or look class bashing him , well it never happened , but what a great learning fight ,learnt to deal with pressure of being big favourite and not delivering and if he never lost that fight i dont think he would be the fighter he is today

Still the best fighter he's fought.

its funny you say that salido has fought a lot of top world champions, a tought mexican world champion which speaks for its self, your right he is

brilo33 wrote: ↑29 May 2020, 21:16

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑29 May 2020, 21:04

Still the best fighter he's fought.

its funny you say that salido has fought a lot of top world champions, a tought mexican world champion which speaks for its self, your right he is

Not the mash up you'd expect, but salido exhibited a ton of skill his first step up with Marquez. Well past his best with loma and while it was very impressive for a 2nd fight if he was the god many on here make him out to be he would have torched Orlando like Garcia did.

brilo33 wrote: ↑29 May 2020, 19:14

Deserter wrote: ↑29 May 2020, 18:51 Macklin vs Moore Is another

for who ?

Genuinely surprised the question needs to be asked, given Macklin is on the record himself saying it was. He went all guns blazing in that fight against Moore, with no sense of pacing, and his subsequent showings against the likes of Sturm showed he had learnt and adjusted accordingly.
To say that fight ruined both of them is crazy, really surprised to hear you say that Coco.

Cassius Clay vs Doug Jones

Shhhh wrote: ↑30 May 2020, 07:47 Could you count Whyte - Joshua?

That’s the first time Joshua was extended so it’s definitely a learning fight for him yes.

Pretty much every Josh Taylor fight, thought he got matched beautifully. OD a puncher, Baranchyk a proper tough man, Miguel Vazquez very negative and mobile. All the while he was improving a ton each fight and not taking too many staybusy fights.

bennie wrote: ↑30 May 2020, 03:52 Cassius Clay vs Doug Jones

Copy cat! LOL!

Benn v Watson

John John Molina versus Victor Aponte..

Aponte was my stablemate in Caguas, Puerto Rico but no one really took him seriously. He wasn't even very friendly tbh. He was 3-6 coming into this bout, but gave the 13-0 Molina all he could handle before Molina won by tenth round knockout.

They later rematched with Molina winning in the fourth round by tko. Molina of course was a multiple time world champion who should perhaps be in the IBHOF (and was robbed vs Oscar De La Hoya)

Foreman vs Peralta.

Delta Jay wrote: ↑30 May 2020, 14:00 Pretty much every Josh Taylor fight, thought he got matched beautifully. OD a puncher, Baranchyk a proper tough man, Miguel Vazquez very negative and mobile. All the while he was improving a ton each fight and not taking too many staybusy fights.

Very good call. Solid amateur pedigree, level of competition was increasing with every fight. Fight against Davies decides who is world class and who is limited. After 16 fights, i am considering him as top 10 p4p today based on skill and resume.

Cent0089 wrote: ↑31 May 2020, 03:15

Delta Jay wrote: ↑30 May 2020, 14:00 Pretty much every Josh Taylor fight, thought he got matched beautifully. OD a puncher, Baranchyk a proper tough man, Miguel Vazquez very negative and mobile. All the while he was improving a ton each fight and not taking too many staybusy fights.

Very good call. Solid amateur pedigree, level of competition was increasing with every fight. Fight against Davies decides who is world class and who is limited. After 16 fights, i am considering him as top 10 p4p today based on skill and resume.

There wasn’t too much to do domestically, so they done well getting big international names over like Postol and Martin. He made his debut in Texas, which will have done a lot to get used to pressures and travelling and making weight.

Ray robinson should have been josh kellys. Lets hope he has learnt from it. I'm fairly doubtful.

Delta Jay wrote: ↑30 May 2020, 14:00 Pretty much every Josh Taylor fight, thought he got matched beautifully. OD a puncher, Baranchyk a proper tough man, Miguel Vazquez very negative and mobile. All the while he was improving a ton each fight and not taking too many staybusy fights.

John Ryder v Khomitski

Ryder also learned against Callum Smith that if your face dont fit you ain't getting the decision

forcefraser wrote: ↑31 May 2020, 09:51 John Ryder v Khomitski

Ryder also learned against Callum Smith that if your face dont fit you ain't getting the decision

Everyone who fought khomitski learned something, many that boxing wasn’t for them. Hard as nails!

jameswilson wrote: ↑29 May 2020, 16:20

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑29 May 2020, 13:58 Those are good calls. Groves had a decent one against Adamu too IIRC

Groves had a good one in the US. Can’t remember the opponent off the top of my head but very tall and long. Groves had to work on him before he stopped him. Think the fight was at the HP pavilion which is an odd thing to remember about a fight,

Francisco Sierra

oogiebe wrote: ↑30 May 2020, 18:17

bennie wrote: ↑30 May 2020, 03:52 Cassius Clay vs Doug Jones

Copy cat! LOL!

Sorry mate. Didn't read the thread.

Bigdogsnose wrote: ↑01 Jun 2020, 02:45

forcefraser wrote: ↑31 May 2020, 09:51 John Ryder v Khomitski

Ryder also learned against Callum Smith that if your face dont fit you ain't getting the decision

Everyone who fought khomitski learned something, many that boxing wasn’t for them. Hard as nails!

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑01 Jun 2020, 07:24

Bigdogsnose wrote: ↑01 Jun 2020, 02:45

Everyone who fought khomitski learned something, many that boxing wasn’t for them. Hard as nails!

Funnily enough one of Khomitski's losses was to Avtandil Khurtsidze who was meant to fight BJS but got convicted as part of a Georgian crime syndicate in New York. He also looked like a pit bull. Tough fight that one, I imagine.

Kohmitski found out Buglioni and Etches.

Ryder toughed it out against the hard nut and earned his corn that night.

The gorilla should be World Champ now.

Sugar Gibiliru was a good learning fight for everyone.
On paper his record looked like a journeyman but he went on to win a British title.
He had two very good learning fights for Floyd Havard.

bennie wrote: ↑01 Jun 2020, 07:22

oogiebe wrote: ↑30 May 2020, 18:17

Copy cat! LOL!

Sorry mate. Didn't read the thread.

Just playing around. Great minds think alike.