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Tony1244 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 14:58

gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 14:56

And you'd think fans that follow all of the goings on of World Titles and title organizations would en masse sh*t on a guy who was awarded a belt that was stripped of a World Champion for making a bigger fight than his mandatory.

How do you define "sh*t on a guy?" If someone was awarded a belt he didn't win, I would still watch him fight.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:00

Tony1244 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 14:58

How do you define "sh*t on a guy?" If someone was awarded a belt he didn't win, I would still watch him fight.

I don't mean the fighter himself deserves any disrespect, but he deserves to be universally acknowledged as a Contender, and nothing more.

Tony1244 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:09

gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:00

I don't mean the fighter himself deserves any disrespect, but he deserves to be universally acknowledged as a Contender, and nothing more.

How do you know when someone is a fake BS boxing fan? Could be a thread. Here's the start of a list.

1) Someone who is more concerned about a fake title than talent.

2) Anyone who wants more divisions, in particular anyone wanting a super HW division. To anyone who wants that, please never talk to me.

3) Anyone who thought Butterbean was a contender.

4) People who don't understand the concept of age. IE. people who took Duran or RJJ seriously towards the end of their careers.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 17:28

Tony1244 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 15:09

How do you know when someone is a fake BS boxing fan? Could be a thread. Here's the start of a list.

1) Someone who is more concerned about a fake title than talent.

2) Anyone who wants more divisions, in particular anyone wanting a super HW division. To anyone who wants that, please never talk to me.

3) Anyone who thought Butterbean was a contender.

4) People who don't understand the concept of age. IE. people who took Duran or RJJ seriously towards the end of their careers.

5) thinking a win over an unbeaten guy must be better than a win over a guy with losses

Tony1244 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 17:36

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 17:28

5) thinking a win over an unbeaten guy must be better than a win over a guy with losses

I never said "must." But I will now; must be a reference to the majority opinion that KOing Wilder was more impressive than decisioning Wlad in a zzz fest. But in this case, unlike wanting more divisions, it is reasonable to disagree.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 17:46

Tony1244 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 17:36

I never said "must." But I will now; must be a reference to the majority opinion that KOing Wilder was more impressive than decisioning Wlad in a zzz fest. But in this case, unlike wanting more divisions, it is reasonable to disagree.

Wladimir is the better fighter to hold a win over.

Wilder was the better win because it was 10 times as exciting of a fight.

The excitement of the fight plays a big part in how people remember it.