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Roco wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 10:51

PredatorHayds wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 10:23 Reg for me.

Harry used to record his audio For some fights when he already knew the result. You can guess he knows the outcome sometimes.

Isn't that the same for gutteridge though? I am sure it says something in reg's book about hitting a bell in the studio to make it sound like they were there and totally mis-timing it on one occasion.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 12:52 I do remember thinking 'I wish I'd said that.'

THEBUTCH wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 19:36 Both timeless masters, but no one tops Harry Carpenter for my money.

On radio, Ian Darke reigned supreme.

I always enjoyed Jim Rosenthal in commentary too, especially if he got a Thomas Hearns assignment. His coverage of Hearns v Duran and Dennis Andries were terrific.

I also like John Rawling and Ron McIntosh.

Coco wrote: ↑20 Jun 2020, 05:33

THEBUTCH wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 19:36 Both timeless masters, but no one tops Harry Carpenter for my money.

On radio, Ian Darke reigned supreme.

I always enjoyed Jim Rosenthal in commentary too, especially if he got a Thomas Hearns assignment. His coverage of Hearns v Duran and Dennis Andries were terrific.

I also like John Rawling and Ron McIntosh.

As a colour commentator these days nobody seems to mention McCrory who was always top class and gelled really well with Darke. Darke for me is the only modern day commentator who can be mention in the same sentence as Reg and Harry.
Watt actually got a lot of stick on here towards the end, opinions I never agreed with.
Talking about McCrory he was a man who had experienced everything in the game and because of this he knew different fighters mindsets in what they were trying to achieve. Glen had been a prospect and a champion but also had been a sparring partner, journeyman and opponent, he understood when fighters are just trying to get through.
Shame he upset Adam Smith.

THEBUTCH wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 19:36 Both timeless masters, but no one tops Harry Carpenter for my money.

On radio, Ian Darke reigned supreme.

I always enjoyed Jim Rosenthal in commentary too, especially if he got a Thomas Hearns assignment. His coverage of Hearns v Duran and Dennis Andries were terrific.

I also like John Rawling and Ron McIntosh.

Roco wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 16:52 Darkie was also the best outside of Carpenter and Gutteridge and Watt was always the best Colour Commentator in the game with whoever he worked with. Really miss him

Did Watt work with Carpenter? I can't recall it.

Cholo_cws wrote: ↑20 Jun 2020, 07:57

THEBUTCH wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 19:36 Both timeless masters, but no one tops Harry Carpenter for my money.

On radio, Ian Darke reigned supreme.

I always enjoyed Jim Rosenthal in commentary too, especially if he got a Thomas Hearns assignment. His coverage of Hearns v Duran and Dennis Andries were terrific.

I also like John Rawling and Ron McIntosh.

I was thinking this too. I've tried to find Hearns-Duran on youtube specifically with his commentary but had no joy. He was good in his role at allegedly too.

stujones wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 12:10 Both we great, but being a tad controversial I think Reg seemed to be not so good when he had a co-commentator, he seemed to go off more on a tangent - whereas it didn't seem to distract Harry as much. Off course Reg and Jim were fantastic and because Harry didn't seem to have a regular co-commentator they would still be my favourite regular partnership. Although perhaps Harry and Jim might have been possibly the best pairing. Jim with anyone really, he is much missed.

When just doing the job on their own - it was Reg for me. Although Harry did this more often.

In some ways I found Reg a bit like Steve Holdsworth - on his own, informative and insightful. When with Bob Mee, he just seemed to want to spout off info on boxrec and just seemed like a phony and was constantly corrected by Bob who was fantastic.

I agree with the views on Ian Darke - fantastic and much missed on the boxing scene. I miss the Ian and Jim nights and I wish Sky could bring them back for PPVs - it would almost be like the use of Buffer, it is a special night when you here Ian and Jim's tones. I would have loved to have seen Jim's views on Joshua vs Ruiz 1 and would he have noticed Joshua struggling so early.

Coco wrote: ↑20 Jun 2020, 05:33

THEBUTCH wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 19:36 Both timeless masters, but no one tops Harry Carpenter for my money.

On radio, Ian Darke reigned supreme.

I always enjoyed Jim Rosenthal in commentary too, especially if he got a Thomas Hearns assignment. His coverage of Hearns v Duran and Dennis Andries were terrific.

I also like John Rawling and Ron McIntosh.

As a colour commentator these days nobody seems to mention McCrory who was always top class and gelled really well with Darke. Darke for me is the only modern day commentator who can be mention in the same sentence as Reg and Harry.
Watt actually got a lot of stick on here towards the end, opinions I never agreed with.
Talking about McCrory he was a man who had experienced everything in the game and because of this he knew different fighters mindsets in what they were trying to achieve. Glen had been a prospect and a champion but also had been a sparring partner, journeyman and opponent, he understood when fighters are just trying to get through.
Shame he upset Adam Smith.

Roco wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 17:05 I think my dream team would consist of:

Presenting: Jim Rosential

Studio analysts: Gary Mason and Barry Mcguigan

Ringside interviews: Gary Newbon

Main commentator: Gutteridge, Carpentator or Darkie

Colour Commentator: Jim Watt

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Jun 2020, 18:28 Who was the crybaby who shed tears when Herol Graham got splatted by Jackson

Roco wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 10:53 Both were professional and I would put David Coleman alongside.

Far better than anything we get these days and like someone said they let the action do the talking and talked when necessary.

forcefraser wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 14:09 Did Harry, Reg or Darke ever say "Oh my, he's exhaling his cheeks like a set of bellows"

Thought not. Ergo, none of them are a patch on big Ron Macintosh.

I doubt they even had the intelligence to say "salvo"

THEBUTCH wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 19:36 Both timeless masters, but no one tops Harry Carpenter for my money.

On radio, Ian Darke reigned supreme.

I always enjoyed Jim Rosenthal in commentary too, especially if he got a Thomas Hearns assignment. His coverage of Hearns v Duran and Dennis Andries were terrific.

I also like John Rawling and Ron McIntosh.

Cholo_cws wrote: ↑20 Jun 2020, 08:07

Roco wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 16:52 Darkie was also the best outside of Carpenter and Gutteridge and Watt was always the best Colour Commentator in the game with whoever he worked with. Really miss him

Did Watt work with Carpenter? I can't recall it.

Not aware of Watt working with Carpenter. Didn't Alan Minter did some co-commentary with him? Just between rounds. Not sure it was a regular set-up though.

Shhhh wrote: ↑21 Jun 2020, 09:02

My Name Is Earl wrote: ↑21 Jun 2020, 07:24

Jim 'The Count' Rosenthal was the consummate pro. I remember him slagging off his old paymasters
and BBC for their boxing attitude a few years back.

In the current racial climate, he also survived a twitter breeze about 15 years ago when, following a boxing link, innocently called Olympic Javelin thrower Tessa Sanderson, a cracking spear chucker back in her day. Fatima Whitbread jumped to his defence saying 'that's what we all call our javelins'. He did apologise. Wouldn't survive today's circus.

I remember that. You had to laugh. Also Ron is great fun..... I used to cringe at him 6ft9 tall ugly as sin and with a tongue too big for his mouth..... but I like his turn of phrase and he knows a bit about boxing

My Name Is Earl wrote: ↑21 Jun 2020, 09:12

Shhhh wrote: ↑21 Jun 2020, 09:02

I remember that. You had to laugh. Also Ron is great fun..... I used to cringe at him 6ft9 tall ugly as sin and with a tongue too big for his mouth..... but I like his turn of phrase and he knows a bit about boxing

He's a fascinating specimen, that's for sure.

My Name Is Earl wrote: ↑21 Jun 2020, 09:09

Cholo_cws wrote: ↑20 Jun 2020, 08:07

Not aware of Watt working with Carpenter. Didn't Alan Minter did some co-commentary with him? Just between rounds. Not sure it was a regular set-up though.

Minter was a regular with H at one time if i remember rightly.

My Name Is Earl wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 07:58 Nearly a decade since these two staples of bygone days of boxing commentary passed away. Both an integral part of
a lot of our younger days following this sport.

Who was your preference for? Reg for me. No need to speak for every second of every feckin round.
Ashamed to say, i didn't even know about his one leg until he'd died.
So Reg and the ITV theme tune trumps it for me.

Oh, and Darke was different gravy on the radio.

IRONFIST wrote: ↑23 Jun 2020, 09:51

My Name Is Earl wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 07:58 Nearly a decade since these two staples of bygone days of boxing commentary passed away. Both an integral part of
a lot of our younger days following this sport.

Who was your preference for? Reg for me. No need to speak for every second of every feckin round.
Ashamed to say, i didn't even know about his one leg until he'd died.
So Reg and the ITV theme tune trumps it for me.

Oh, and Darke was different gravy on the radio.

I used to think they were related, they looked similar. Guttridge was better IMO, anyone who says: "...his head flopped back like Worzel Gummidge" as part of his commentary shows class