BoxRec

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 Jul 2020, 13:59 Zab is a funny name

banjo wrote: ↑08 Jul 2020, 13:58

Delta Jay wrote: ↑08 Jul 2020, 13:36 Did Floyd and Witter both fight Zab Judah?

2006 was definitely Floyd’s prime, but probably not his best year on paper was it? (Which year was?) Funny how quickly he worked up to Welter from SFW, maybe 7 years or so, then stayed about the same weight for 10 more years, only going up to LMW and still miles under that weight.

At any rate 2006 Floyd is about as good a boxer as you’re gonna get, there’s actually only a handful of fighters ever who I’d fancy over him.

Floyd fought Zab in Spring 2006, it was being billed as a mega fight until Zab lost to Carlos Baldomir 3 months earlier so the actual fight wasn't quite as big as it could have been.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 Jul 2020, 16:37 There is no one under 60 who would have had a very good chance of beating the version of Mayweather from around that time

ILikeBeer wrote: ↑09 Jul 2020, 06:09 I guess that's what happens when a boxer truly doesn't like another, as oppose to all this boring pre-fight talk they feel they have to do now. He doesn't want to help him financially. Hatton could've made money fighting a cheese sandwich, let's be honest. Witter needed him more.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Jul 2020, 06:11

ILikeBeer wrote: ↑09 Jul 2020, 06:09 I guess that's what happens when a boxer truly doesn't like another, as oppose to all this boring pre-fight talk they feel they have to do now. He doesn't want to help him financially. Hatton could've made money fighting a cheese sandwich, let's be honest. Witter needed him more.

Same thing that's happened with Khan and Brook..

Brooks needs a big name for a good pay day,

Khan got paid $5-6m just fighting Billy Dib.. Khan's not giving him the pay day.. Also, the loser will have to live with the fact that they lost to a very bitter rival.

ILikeBeer wrote: ↑09 Jul 2020, 06:17

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Jul 2020, 06:11

ILikeBeer wrote: ↑09 Jul 2020, 06:09 I guess that's what happens when a boxer truly doesn't like another, as oppose to all this boring pre-fight talk they feel they have to do now. He doesn't want to help him financially. Hatton could've made money fighting a cheese sandwich, let's be honest. Witter needed him more.

Same thing that's happened with Khan and Brook..

Brooks needs a big name for a good pay day,

Khan got paid $5-6m just fighting Billy Dib.. Khan's not giving him the pay day.. Also, the loser will have to live with the fact that they lost to a very bitter rival.

Yeah.

It's reached the point where Brook is deluding himself if he think he's getting that fight. Why would Khan fight Brook when he can get a fortune for fighting dipsticks in Saudi Arabia on Channel 5? Khan has already been in a lot of tough fights, and will probably ease himself into retirement now. Don't necessarily blame him for that.

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑06 Jan 2021, 10:24 I remember that post -Judah period where Witter was showcased on the BBC and he had that run of knockouts where he suddenly looked like a bonafide killer , albeit against overmatched lower-euro level guys

Then he beat Viv Harris in similarly impressive fashion (albeit a faded version). Didn’t Harris allege witter had loaded gloves or something ?

If Witter had fought Floyd he would have just looked at him all night.

banjo wrote: ↑07 Jul 2020, 04:03

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑06 Jul 2020, 21:29 He went from fighting a journeyman to one of the consensus best in the division in Judah. I didn't think he performed too badly in there. He hadn't been past the 8th round before the fight and his fight before the Judah fight was against a guy with 7 wins and 31 losses. Quite a big step up. He frustrated Judah a fair bit and did land some shots but it was too negative. That fight woke him up and he improved from the fight. He went on a KO streak for his next 15 fights and then had close but clear decision wins over Ndou, Kotelnik, Lynes and Corley. All durable guys but it did show up his supposed KO power. Having close enough fights with these guys doesn't suggest you have the beating of Floyd Mayweather. However, the Witter of this period might have beaten Judah, who knows.

I was sad for him when he lost to Bradley because I thought he was finished as he was in the who-needs-him club. He got his shot at Devon Alexander and from memory looked awful in the fight and retired with a hand injury. I may watch that one again tonight actually. Oh and I agree with the poster who said he would have done Gatti.

Absolutely, Gatti by that stage was years past his best but still drew viewers and big money purses due to his highlight reel career, I'm surprised Hatton didn't go for him instead of Luis Collazo, would have been an easier night and made more for it.

Steveh583 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2021, 14:59

banjo wrote: ↑07 Jul 2020, 04:03

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑06 Jul 2020, 21:29 He went from fighting a journeyman to one of the consensus best in the division in Judah. I didn't think he performed too badly in there. He hadn't been past the 8th round before the fight and his fight before the Judah fight was against a guy with 7 wins and 31 losses. Quite a big step up. He frustrated Judah a fair bit and did land some shots but it was too negative. That fight woke him up and he improved from the fight. He went on a KO streak for his next 15 fights and then had close but clear decision wins over Ndou, Kotelnik, Lynes and Corley. All durable guys but it did show up his supposed KO power. Having close enough fights with these guys doesn't suggest you have the beating of Floyd Mayweather. However, the Witter of this period might have beaten Judah, who knows.

I was sad for him when he lost to Bradley because I thought he was finished as he was in the who-needs-him club. He got his shot at Devon Alexander and from memory looked awful in the fight and retired with a hand injury. I may watch that one again tonight actually. Oh and I agree with the poster who said he would have done Gatti.

Absolutely, Gatti by that stage was years past his best but still drew viewers and big money purses due to his highlight reel career, I'm surprised Hatton didn't go for him instead of Luis Collazo, would have been an easier night and made more for it.

gatti is vastly overrated cos he was in exciting wars. hatton at him peak would have steamrollered him imo witter would frustrate fukk out of him.

leftrightleft wrote: ↑07 Jan 2021, 01:41 Witter was a horrible guy to fight still remember his fight with colin Lynes put me to sleep. As boring as Witter was Mayweather would've struggled to look good against him but definitely would've won. It would've been interesting if Witter was fighting now in this era against guys like Danny Garcia, Thurman etc.

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑07 Jan 2021, 04:42 Good chance of beating Mayweather means losing 120-106 or something like that.