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Perseus wrote: ↑22 Aug 2020, 20:56 Rematch clause stinks.

I would rather see Povetkin vs Usyk next.

Whyte was winning before the ko but Povetkin isn't some wild swinger who landed a lottery punch. He's a good boxer who sets up his shots and clearly proved that Whyte cannot take a good punch from him.
The rematch will either be Whyte going horizontal again or a wide, boring UD for Povetkin when Whyte decides he'd rather hear the final bell than risk getting belted out again.

Povetkin will KO Whyte again. Povetkin can take Whyte's best punches, Whyte can't take Povetkin's best punch. Whyte isn't a type of a fighter to become a defensive wizard for the rematch. He wasn't hurt last time far long ago, in Browne bout. Povetkin will catch him again. Formally, the rematch looks pointless, but the thing is both Fury-Wilder and Povetkin-Whyte bouts had that rematch clause. Probably we'll see Fury-Wilder 3 and Povetkin-Whyte 2, then the clash of winners, which will be Fury-Povetkin. And Usyk is likely to fight Chisora and then Joshua.

Whyte was bouncing Pov off the canvas with shots that Whyte hardly put anything into, I didn't exactly get the impression that Pov could take his shots well. Fair play to him for ending it before Whyte could land again though

I feel a bit sorry for Whyte.

He's been waiting and waiting and waiting for a title shot and has undoubtedly been the best contender at HW for a few years.

He's repeatedly taken risks when he could have just sat on his number one contender status.

He may well beat Povetkin in the rematch, as he was easily winning prior to the KO, but even if he wins, some of the lustre has come off Whyte now.

Agreed that I don't see a rematch as a guaranteed repeat. Povetkin really won one second of the fight, important as it was.

The KO was so spectacular in part because Pov was well behind and looked like he was about to be finished, I mean I don't know how that can really inspire too much confidence. If they fight against Whyte will still hurt him and win rounds...if Pov is going to win again I'd expect him to have to come from behind again

Syntax Error wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 04:45 I feel a bit sorry for Whyte.

He's been waiting and waiting and waiting for a title shot and has undoubtedly been the best contender at HW for a few years.

He's repeatedly taken risks when he could have just sat on his number one contender status.

He may well beat Povetkin in the rematch, as he was easily winning prior to the KO, but even if he wins, some of the lustre has come off Whyte now.

I don’t. He got offered a world title fight last year..

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 05:01 The KO was so spectacular in part because Pov was well behind and looked like he was about to be finished, I mean I don't know how that can really inspire too much confidence. If they fight against Whyte will still hurt him and win rounds...if Pov is going to win again I'd expect him to have to come from behind again

Well, of course, anything can happen even in the rematch and I'm not 100% sure, that the scenario will be the same, but still I'm pretty sure, that Povetkin would repeat. I guess, Whyte will be more cautious and even more keen on jabbing, but he just can't avoid what Povetkin prepared for him. He simply gets caught every time.

Instant rematches are the second most boring thing in boxing.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 05:01 The KO was so spectacular in part because Pov was well behind and looked like he was about to be finished, I mean I don't know how that can really inspire too much confidence. If they fight against Whyte will still hurt him and win rounds...if Pov is going to win again I'd expect him to have to come from behind again

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 05:45 Instant rematches are the second most boring thing in boxing.

Is EO #1?

dookus wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 06:44

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 05:45 Instant rematches are the second most boring thing in boxing.

Is EO #1?

Very possible. Or maybe even he's an inarguable leader, above all competition.

Perseus wrote: ↑22 Aug 2020, 20:56 Rematch clause stinks.

I would rather see Povetkin vs Usyk next.

Whyte was winning before the ko but Povetkin isn't some wild swinger who landed a lottery punch. He's a good boxer who sets up his shots and clearly proved that Whyte cannot take a good punch from him.
The rematch will either be Whyte going horizontal again or a wide, boring UD for Povetkin when Whyte decides he'd rather hear the final bell than risk getting belted out again.

+1 on Usyk/Povetkin next. Battle of the Eastern European gold medalists. Think it’d be great!

dookus wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 06:44

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 05:45 Instant rematches are the second most boring thing in boxing.

Is EO #1?

A Kid Galahad fight

Ron C wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 09:42

Perseus wrote: ↑22 Aug 2020, 20:56 Rematch clause stinks.

I would rather see Povetkin vs Usyk next.

Whyte was winning before the ko but Povetkin isn't some wild swinger who landed a lottery punch. He's a good boxer who sets up his shots and clearly proved that Whyte cannot take a good punch from him.
The rematch will either be Whyte going horizontal again or a wide, boring UD for Povetkin when Whyte decides he'd rather hear the final bell than risk getting belted out again.

+1 on Usyk/Povetkin next. Battle of the Eastern European gold medalists. Think it’d be great!

Looks like a mismatch on paper.

Usyk would probably shut him out 120 - 108.

Perseus wrote: ↑22 Aug 2020, 20:56 Rematch clause stinks.

I would rather see Povetkin vs Usyk next.

Whyte was winning before the ko but Povetkin isn't some wild swinger who landed a lottery punch. He's a good boxer who sets up his shots and clearly proved that Whyte cannot take a good punch from him.
The rematch will either be Whyte going horizontal again or a wide, boring UD for Povetkin when Whyte decides he'd rather hear the final bell than risk getting belted out again.

That's a dramatic rewrite of Whyte's abilities. Remember he's the man who pushed both AJ and Parker very hard. Whilst he let Povetkin have his own way a little too much last night, he was on top before the TKO.

Though not as much as the 'impartial' Sky team thought.

I was a big fan of Dillian's for his fearlessness and warrior attitude, but after the PED stink I've lost faith in him. Sure, we know the defence, everyone else is cheating too...

Apparently both fighters had been under testing since March. What fresh evidence is there that a clean Whyte can ever be champion?

Beat Alexander Povetkin in the rematch?
Sure why not?

Dillian Whyte has never been good with pace and stamina before the drugs scandal, but now...the chances of a title look remote. He now seems doomed to be the eternal underdog, and losing his trainer can't help either. Very ragged performance. As he admitted afterwards, he's blocked those punches hundreds of times in training.

Just got sloppy in a fight where where focus is everything.

As for Povetkin, maybe he could wait out the winner of the Fury - Wilder bout. Povetkin v Wilder would still hold a lot of interest - if Wilder ever wanted it.

Deontay Wilder will never be a boring fighter.

As for Povetkin's attitude, there's obviously nothing wrong with that. He's not doing UK fighters much good though.

Syntax Error wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 10:41

Ron C wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 09:42

Perseus wrote: ↑22 Aug 2020, 20:56 Rematch clause stinks.

I would rather see Povetkin vs Usyk next.

Whyte was winning before the ko but Povetkin isn't some wild swinger who landed a lottery punch. He's a good boxer who sets up his shots and clearly proved that Whyte cannot take a good punch from him.
The rematch will either be Whyte going horizontal again or a wide, boring UD for Povetkin when Whyte decides he'd rather hear the final bell than risk getting belted out again.

+1 on Usyk/Povetkin next. Battle of the Eastern European gold medalists. Think it’d be great!

Looks like a mismatch on paper.

Usyk would probably shut him out 120 - 108.

I’ll agree on a UD but 120-108 might be a bit much. Usyk seems to have the Floyd Mayweather syndrome of not really getting in their groove until a couple rounds have passed. I’d guess 117-111 Usyk UD. I think it’d generate interest especially with Povetkin riding a little wave of momentum right now. I know me personally would love it!

rematch obviously

DrDuke wrote: ↑22 Aug 2020, 19:03 If there is indeed a rematch, Povetkin will repeat. Whyte gets rocked/hurt/floored every fight and now it's clear, that he can't take Povetkin's punch.

Povetkin landed a perfect punch and may do so again, but it's far from guaranteed. Both fighters are capable of winning a rematch.

If there’s no exercise of the rematch clause, then I think Usyk v Povetkin has a lot of intrigue. Hoping that’s the fight we’ll get to watch.

It was officially a WBC eliminator though. Does anyone know the specifics on Povetkin’s relationship to DAZN? Because I don’t see how he gets to fight either Wilder or Fury if he’s locked into DAZN. Is this is some cheap way to steal the WBC belt for Joshua by setting up a fight for the “vacant” or “interim” WBC belt between Povetkin and Joshua? Did we really land on the moon?

There's no need for an immediate rematch when any match ends so convincingly.

It's also stupid that an interim-title match would have a rematch clause in the first place, and doubly stupid for a rematch clause to be in place for a title eliminator.

Just think if Whyte wins the next, but Povetkin asks for a rematch clause we'll be caught in a never ending loop of battles between these two combatants. Can they fight more times that Langford and Wills?

punchoutsb wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 12:37 There's no need for an immediate rematch when any match ends so convincingly.

It's also stupid that an interim-title match would have a rematch clause in the first place, and doubly stupid for a rematch clause to be in place for a title eliminator.

Just think if Whyte wins the next, but Povetkin asks for a rematch clause we'll be caught in a never ending loop of battles between these two combatants. Can they fight more times that Langford and Wills?

Lol that's something that comes to mind for Fury and Wilder. Imagine Wilder gets the KO shot in next time, then these dudes are fighting for the 4th f@@cking time. Let's mix it up bruhs.

Eddeh has Usyk too, and Usyk has lost some time. Would be cool to have Usyk make a bigger jump by facing a more notable guy Pov than by facing Chis

That said, Whyte-Pov went down like a fight where a rematch is appropriate, but i am just in general not in fan of the whole immediate rematch thing

ryandmosley wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 12:29 If there’s no exercise of the rematch clause, then I think Usyk v Povetkin has a lot of intrigue. Hoping that’s the fight we’ll get to watch.

It was officially a WBC eliminator though. Does anyone know the specifics on Povetkin’s relationship to DAZN? Because I don’t see how he gets to fight either Wilder or Fury if he’s locked into DAZN. Is this is some cheap way to steal the WBC belt for Joshua by setting up a fight for the “vacant” or “interim” WBC belt between Povetkin and Joshua? Did we really land on the moon?

he signed with Matchroom, UK based I’m guessing. Doubt he has a seperate contract with Sky too. Only a few have that..

I don’t think he’s tied down to DAZN, but I’m just guessing.

Povetkin vs. Usyk?

Povetkin vs. Joshua II?

Maybe he could wait for the Fury/Wilder III winner but who knows, that could put him on the shelf for a year and at his age he may not want that.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 12:45

punchoutsb wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 12:37 There's no need for an immediate rematch when any match ends so convincingly.

It's also stupid that an interim-title match would have a rematch clause in the first place, and doubly stupid for a rematch clause to be in place for a title eliminator.

Just think if Whyte wins the next, but Povetkin asks for a rematch clause we'll be caught in a never ending loop of battles between these two combatants. Can they fight more times that Langford and Wills?

Lol that's something that comes to mind for Fury and Wilder. Imagine Wilder gets the KO shot in next time, then these dudes are fighting for the 4th f@@cking time. Let's mix it up bruhs.

Eddeh has Usyk too, and Usyk has lost some time. Would be cool to have Usyk make a bigger jump by facing a more notable guy Pov than by facing Chis

That said, Whyte-Pov went down like a fight where a rematch is appropriate, but i am just in general not in fan of the whole immediate rematch thing

Fury/Wilder IX coming in November of 2028

The fight wasn't long enough or one sided enough to warrant an immediate rematch. It was only 5 rounds in. True, Povetkin down twice in the 4th but neither looked particularly heavy. The first three rounds were hardly a one sided beating. Fictional fast forward and if Povetkin is down heavy on all cards and lands this in the 11th and then perhaps a rematch would be more appropriate.

If every time the dog won by KO we had immediate rematches it would seem an awful lot like kids resetting the game until they get the result they want.

punchoutsb wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 17:09

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 12:45

punchoutsb wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 12:37 There's no need for an immediate rematch when any match ends so convincingly.

It's also stupid that an interim-title match would have a rematch clause in the first place, and doubly stupid for a rematch clause to be in place for a title eliminator.

Just think if Whyte wins the next, but Povetkin asks for a rematch clause we'll be caught in a never ending loop of battles between these two combatants. Can they fight more times that Langford and Wills?

Lol that's something that comes to mind for Fury and Wilder. Imagine Wilder gets the KO shot in next time, then these dudes are fighting for the 4th f@@cking time. Let's mix it up bruhs.

Eddeh has Usyk too, and Usyk has lost some time. Would be cool to have Usyk make a bigger jump by facing a more notable guy Pov than by facing Chis

That said, Whyte-Pov went down like a fight where a rematch is appropriate, but i am just in general not in fan of the whole immediate rematch thing

Fury/Wilder IX coming in November of 2028

The fight wasn't long enough or one sided enough to warrant an immediate rematch. It was only 5 rounds in. True, Povetkin down twice in the 4th but neither looked particularly heavy. The first three rounds were hardly a one sided beating. Fictional fast forward and if Povetkin is down heavy on all cards and lands this in the 11th and then perhaps a rematch would be more appropriate.

If every time the dog won by KO we had immediate rematches it would seem an awful lot like kids resetting the game until they get the result they want.

Every time the a side signs for a non mandatory fight an immediate rematch is in the cards.