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Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 06:34
by Noxy
Not a bad idea, a chance for people to put their dough where their mouth is so to speak.

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 06:42
by Controversial
mickey1975 wrote: 15 Sep 2020, 04:14 What about his kids school? They’re only about 25.
In a July 2018 interview he said one of his daughters had just finished school and his youngest had one more year to go.

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 07:00
by jamesmcdonnell
Controversial wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 06:29 I've just seen on Twitter someone has created a gofundme page for Danny to raise 100K to support him and his family.
Really?

It's not like hes in a wheelchair.

Hes already done his close protection bodyguard training, and I'm sure he can find work. Dont see why he deserves handouts.

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 07:00
by jamesmcdonnell
Noxy wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 06:34 Not a bad idea, a chance for people to put their dough where their mouth is so to speak.
There are far more deserving cases.

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 07:11
by AntonioMartin
I thought he was retired a looong time ago!

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 07:25
by Controversial
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 07:00
Controversial wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 06:29 I've just seen on Twitter someone has created a gofundme page for Danny to raise 100K to support him and his family.
Really?

It's not like hes in a wheelchair.

Hes already done his close protection bodyguard training, and I'm sure he can find work. Dont see why he deserves handouts.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/danny-willia ... ghts-again

I agree with you. It’s a shame anyone ends up struggling but there are thousands of examples like Danny., not sure why he is anymore deserving than anyone else. I hope he finds a job and is happy.

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 07:29
by Fray Bentos
His finest moment is when he beat the shit out of Oleg Platov and Platov did that being restrained bullshite when he got gifted a NC - yeah, that's right Platov - you have just had Danny smashing fornicate out of you and you think it might go better in a square go. :lol: fornicating knobhead! :shame:

I am sure he is fine financially, he must have earned a lot of money and I hope he has his own place bought and paid for - Rocky Graziano said something about stuffing the money down your socks because there comes a day you can't earn a living from it anymore and you need some of that money to tide you over for the rest of your life. I hope he has it. :TU:

He might want more money, but then again, who doesn't.

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 07:42
by Noxy
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 07:00
Noxy wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 06:34 Not a bad idea, a chance for people to put their dough where their mouth is so to speak.
There are far more deserving cases.
Yes, there always are though. Imagine if just some of all those fans desperate for him to retire put up a tenner each.

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 07:59
by punchers chance
Danny was at his best when he won the Lonsdale belt outright around 2002 (he was 29 years old then)
He kept a high level for a few years after that but in my opinion was already past his peak when he beat a fading Tyson.
He cashed in with the Vitali fight and maybe that was the time to call it a day.
But to be fair he maintained a good standard at British title level up to 2009 when he was floored by 8-4 Carl Baker in Prizefighter.
If that wasn't the point to hang them up, the crushing loss to Dereck Chisora for the British Title in 2010 should definitely have been the end. He was 37 at this point.
Since then there have been 33 more fights!
All of these have been outside the UK, and Danny has won 13 and lost 20, suffering 11 defeats inside the distance.

I cant help contrasting this with Alan Minter who retired at 30 after suffering a knockout by an upcoming next generation fighter.
For me, it's a slur on the sport that Danny went on for this long.

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 08:06
by milpool
Controversial wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 06:29 I've just seen on Twitter someone has created a gofundme page for Danny to raise 100K to support him and his family.
Someone called 'Lou DiBella' has donated £250.

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 08:20
by jamesmcdonnell
punchers chance wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 07:59 Danny was at his best when he won the Lonsdale belt outright around 2002 (he was 29 years old then)
He kept a high level for a few years after that but in my opinion was already past his peak when he beat a fading Tyson.
He cashed in with the Vitali fight and maybe that was the time to call it a day.
But to be fair he maintained a good standard at British title level up to 2009 when he was floored by 8-4 Carl Baker in Prizefighter.
If that wasn't the point to hang them up, the crushing loss to Dereck Chisora for the British Title in 2010 should definitely have been the end. He was 37 at this point.
Since then there have been 33 more fights!
All of these have been outside the UK, and Danny has won 13 and lost 20, suffering 11 defeats inside the distance.

I cant help contrasting this with Alan Minter who retired at 30 after suffering a knockout by an upcoming next generation fighter.
For me, it's a slur on the sport that Danny went on for this long.
I hate to say it, but Danny must also take the responsibility - nobody forced him to fight on - and wanting to put your daughters through private school is a bloody daft reason to continue to fight way past the point of being shot.

There are many people who probably tried to stop him, and I suspect the above was in some part an excuse, for Danny to continue to do what he'd always done for a living.

The irony is, he never even wanted to be a fighter, and was forced into it by his dad.

I hope for Danny's sake his health isn't too badly compromised, personally I won't be donating as I'm flat broke myself at the moment, and the occasions I do donate money, are generally to causes where people have suffered injustices or bad luck which are no fault of their own.

I agree that the sport is also at fault, but sadly there are far too many competing interests in boxing for there to ever be a single governing body who could prevent this sort of thing.

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 08:53
by Petercattermole
punchers chance wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 07:59 Danny was at his best when he won the Lonsdale belt outright around 2002 (he was 29 years old then)
He kept a high level for a few years after that but in my opinion was already past his peak when he beat a fading Tyson.
He cashed in with the Vitali fight and maybe that was the time to call it a day.
But to be fair he maintained a good standard at British title level up to 2009 when he was floored by 8-4 Carl Baker in Prizefighter.
If that wasn't the point to hang them up, the crushing loss to Dereck Chisora for the British Title in 2010 should definitely have been the end. He was 37 at this point.
Since then there have been 33 more fights!
All of these have been outside the UK, and Danny has won 13 and lost 20, suffering 11 defeats inside the distance.

I cant help contrasting this with Alan Minter who retired at 30 after suffering a knockout by an upcoming next generation fighter.
For me, it's a slur on the sport that Danny went on for this long.
All bar the Lee McAllister fight

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 09:09
by chinarich
Petercattermole wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 08:53
punchers chance wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 07:59 Danny was at his best when he won the Lonsdale belt outright around 2002 (he was 29 years old then)
He kept a high level for a few years after that but in my opinion was already past his peak when he beat a fading Tyson.
He cashed in with the Vitali fight and maybe that was the time to call it a day.
But to be fair he maintained a good standard at British title level up to 2009 when he was floored by 8-4 Carl Baker in Prizefighter.
If that wasn't the point to hang them up, the crushing loss to Dereck Chisora for the British Title in 2010 should definitely have been the end. He was 37 at this point.
Since then there have been 33 more fights!
All of these have been outside the UK, and Danny has won 13 and lost 20, suffering 11 defeats inside the distance.

I cant help contrasting this with Alan Minter who retired at 30 after suffering a knockout by an upcoming next generation fighter.
For me, it's a slur on the sport that Danny went on for this long.
All bar the Lee McAllister fight
Plus he also beat Dominic Negus a few years back on what I think was a BIBA show at the Troxy...

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 12:16
by Kassel
milpool wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 08:06
Controversial wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 06:29 I've just seen on Twitter someone has created a gofundme page for Danny to raise 100K to support him and his family.
Someone called 'Lou DiBella' has donated £250.
Lou DiBella is a respected boxing promoter in NYC :clap:

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 18:48
by dookus
Petercattermole wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 08:53
punchers chance wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 07:59 Danny was at his best when he won the Lonsdale belt outright around 2002 (he was 29 years old then)
He kept a high level for a few years after that but in my opinion was already past his peak when he beat a fading Tyson.
He cashed in with the Vitali fight and maybe that was the time to call it a day.
But to be fair he maintained a good standard at British title level up to 2009 when he was floored by 8-4 Carl Baker in Prizefighter.
If that wasn't the point to hang them up, the crushing loss to Dereck Chisora for the British Title in 2010 should definitely have been the end. He was 37 at this point.
Since then there have been 33 more fights!
All of these have been outside the UK, and Danny has won 13 and lost 20, suffering 11 defeats inside the distance.

I cant help contrasting this with Alan Minter who retired at 30 after suffering a knockout by an upcoming next generation fighter.
For me, it's a slur on the sport that Danny went on for this long.
All bar the Lee McAllister fight
Jesus wept, I'd forgotten about that tragedy

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 17 Sep 2020, 08:52
by stujones
Everytime there is a "higher" profile defeat - Danny retires, everytime he loses and it might capture some slight mainstream view - he retires - and he comes back, he'll be back again.

I don't like saying this, cos I was a big fan (although ultimately dissapointed) when he was coming through, but I agree with what James' saying and I hope Danny himself pulls the go fund thing. Its rediculous that it has needed that - he is not earning anything in these fights, for me he just doesn't want a "normal" job - sorry to sound harsh, but most 9-5 jobs would get better pay than this IMO.

And yes, if there was a fund me thing for Peter Buckley back in the day I would be saying something similar - but there wasn't so respect to Peter and the other journeyman.

Really had the talent to be a legend in the sport, but ultimately wasted his prime years with his yo yo weight. Was never the same truly mentally after Samil Sam, and never the same physically after Tyson. I honestly think though a prime and absolute prime Williams would be probably top 5 in the world now. Think he would have beaten Dillian Whyte and Chisora in his pomp.

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 17 Sep 2020, 09:03
by Nightmare Roy
Seems like yesterday I was watching him when he was about 5-0 and telling my mates to keep an eye on him.

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 17 Sep 2020, 09:09
by handsofstone
Anyone who contributes to his Go Fund Me needs their head examined, hes made more than most on here, still I wish him well

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 17 Sep 2020, 13:48
by jamesmcdonnell
handsofstone wrote: 17 Sep 2020, 09:09 Anyone who contributes to his Go Fund Me needs their head examined, hes made more than most on here, still I wish him well
That's what I think.

I'm absolutely potless, and I'm being asked to contribute to a guy who probably made a couple million at least over the years, to convince him to retire?

Doesnt look like it's worked anyway, it's at 650 quid, and most of that's from a handful of donors.

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 17 Sep 2020, 14:03
by MasterG
His kids who must be grown up by now and would think have good careers after all the money he has spent on private education should be returning their appreciation by providing for their father. No one knows Williams financial status for all we know he could be minted.

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 17 Sep 2020, 17:19
by Coco
MasterG wrote: 17 Sep 2020, 14:03 His kids who must be grown up by now and would think have good careers after all the money he has spent on private education should be returning their appreciation by providing for their father. No one knows Williams financial status for all we know he could be minted.
One at uni one still at school

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 17 Sep 2020, 17:25
by Nightmare Roy
MasterG wrote: 17 Sep 2020, 14:03 His kids who must be grown up by now and would think have good careers after all the money he has spent on private education should be returning their appreciation by providing for their father. No one knows Williams financial status for all we know he could be minted.
If they are lucky they’ll get jobs at a supermarket or Amazon earning £20k a year, thanks to the virus

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 17 Sep 2020, 17:43
by skanksta
Noxy wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 07:42
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 07:00
Noxy wrote: 16 Sep 2020, 06:34 Not a bad idea, a chance for people to put their dough where their mouth is so to speak.
There are far more deserving cases.
Yes, there always are though. Imagine if just some of all those fans desperate for him to retire put up a tenner each.
Huge Danny fan.
I’ll defo donate if he promises to retire - how does that work ?

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 17 Sep 2020, 17:55
by jamesmcdonnell
You're off your nut. Hes not a fornicating charity case!

Re: Danny Williams retires

Posted: 17 Sep 2020, 18:10
by Noxy
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 17 Sep 2020, 17:55 You're off your nut. Hes not a fornicating charity case!
Right there James, we're back on this. He isn't a charity case as you say. You could look at it as - cheers for the memories champ, have a drink on me and good luck to you (and quit fighting). I stopped following him after the Chisora fight, he had quite a few highlights up till then though. He seemed a decent sort as well.