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Dave allen is like the heavyweight version of paul smith.

Underserved opportunity after undeserved opportunity.

chiggsy wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 08:18 Dave allen is like the heavyweight version of paul smith.

Underserved opportunity after undeserved opportunity.

Strange isn't it? Wonder if the likes of smigga were/are prepared to fight for well under the going rate. Paul was a very good fighter, better than he looked but I agree that he got more chances that were warranted based on ability and marketability. There must be a reason and money is my best guess.

jameswilson wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 08:09 Hammer is 1.67 Allen 2.1

That's money for jam, that is.

Dave Allen gets hammered over ten

or do we believe like he does that a handful of sparring sessions with Usyk have taught him how to box better ?
I mean lets not forget the guy was only a win away from getting in with AJ , in his mind of course !

Gnome wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 09:15

jameswilson wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 08:09 Hammer is 1.67 Allen 2.1

That's money for jam, that is.

I think there will be early money on Allen too meaning the odds on Hammer should drift (If I’m right.)

Dave Allen should be looking at the likes of Gorman or Wardley, lower end of the domestic top ten, not guys like this.

Hammer pts - Allen has another long, punishing night in a fight he doesn't have much chance of winning (see Whyte, Ortiz, Yonka).

You can’t fault he will get in with anyone provided he’s had a camp (think he’s only turned Dubois down when there’s not enough notice.)

On top of that he’s in miles better shape now than I’ve ever seen him.

Hammers a proper gate keeper for world class tho. Still probably around 15-20 in the world but will beat anyone who doesn’t deserve to be in that top 10. You have To respect a man who’s faced Fury, Ortiz and Povetkin and beaten Price and Teper.

Good match this, I reckon Hammer. He‘ll have to work for it though. Allen is well capable.

Noxy wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 15:16 Good match this, I reckon Hammer. He‘ll have to work for it though. Allen is well capable.

If the ghost of Pricey can beat Allen with ease then Hammer has a very good shot. I was surprised how easily he folded vs Fury (though I backed Fury to stop him that night.)

Could be an interesting fight though.

ShadrachSimmo wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 15:57

Noxy wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 15:16 Good match this, I reckon Hammer. He‘ll have to work for it though. Allen is well capable.

If the ghost of Pricey can beat Allen with ease then Hammer has a very good shot. I was surprised how easily he folded vs Fury (though I backed Fury to stop him that night.)

Could be an interesting fight though.

We know now with the Wilder performances just how good Fury is and was. Making a seeming immovable object like Christian Hammer wilt is an under rated win on the resume.

jameswilson wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 16:24

ShadrachSimmo wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 15:57

Noxy wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 15:16 Good match this, I reckon Hammer. He‘ll have to work for it though. Allen is well capable.

If the ghost of Pricey can beat Allen with ease then Hammer has a very good shot. I was surprised how easily he folded vs Fury (though I backed Fury to stop him that night.)

Could be an interesting fight though.

We know now with the Wilder performances just how good Fury is and was. Making a seeming immovable object like Christian Hammer wilt is an under rated win on the resume.

He was expected to lose, it was more a case of how easily he folded without really being hurt that kinda surprised me.

Hammer for sure, I hope Allen can realize his luck is limited.

Allen is and always was a journeyman.

Hammer is now fighting Yoka on Nov 26..

I though this would have been rescheduled.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 15:40 Hammer is now fighting Yoka on Nov 26..

I though this would have been rescheduled.

Think allens changed plan to tune up end of year, then wardly for brittish title early next year. Thats what he said on instagram.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 15:40 Hammer is now fighting Yoka on Nov 26..

I though this would have been rescheduled.

That's a good fight. Really did not rate Yoka as an amateur - just thought he was incredibly lucky

stujones wrote: ↑05 Nov 2020, 16:10

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 15:40 Hammer is now fighting Yoka on Nov 26..

I though this would have been rescheduled.

That's a good fight. Really did not rate Yoka as an amateur - just thought he was incredibly lucky

Yoka has looked decent as a pro to be fair. My own gut instinct is that he might be an on top guy and I’m convinced that he will react well when he’s pushed a bit. Hammer is a good fight for him

looks like Allen vs Ilja Mezencev on the conner benn (old whyte povetkin) card. Long cry from Hammer, never heard of the guy, but at least he is 25, and active...

(according to allens instagram, slightly cryptically..)

gregregegg wrote: ↑06 Nov 2020, 18:09 looks like Allen vs Ilja Mezencev on the conner benn (old whyte povetkin) card. Long cry from Hammer, never heard of the guy, but at least he is 25, and active...

(according to allens instagram, slightly cryptically..)

If this is the kid I’m thinking if he’s been beaten by Tom Schwartz twice.

Not in itself a terrible fight (although a pretty poor one) but it would be a steaming, fetid dug turd of a PPV fight undercard.

Allen’s transformation into an undercard PPV must have is one the more bizarre UK boxing developments of this decade

fizzjambo wrote: ↑06 Nov 2020, 19:15

gregregegg wrote: ↑06 Nov 2020, 18:09 looks like Allen vs Ilja Mezencev on the conner benn (old whyte povetkin) card. Long cry from Hammer, never heard of the guy, but at least he is 25, and active...

(according to allens instagram, slightly cryptically..)

If this is the kid I’m thinking if he’s been beaten by Tom Schwartz twice.

Not in itself a terrible fight (although a pretty poor one) but it would be a steaming, fetid dug poop of a PPV fight undercard.

Allen’s transformation into an undercard PPV must have is one the more bizarre UK boxing developments of this decade

Yea thats the one. 22-2, 25 years old, only beaten by someone whos only defeat is fury... It can work on paper.. This is not a PPV anymore at least, hence they can get away with this.

gregregegg wrote: ↑06 Nov 2020, 19:51

fizzjambo wrote: ↑06 Nov 2020, 19:15

gregregegg wrote: ↑06 Nov 2020, 18:09 looks like Allen vs Ilja Mezencev on the conner benn (old whyte povetkin) card. Long cry from Hammer, never heard of the guy, but at least he is 25, and active...

(according to allens instagram, slightly cryptically..)

If this is the kid I’m thinking if he’s been beaten by Tom Schwartz twice.

Not in itself a terrible fight (although a pretty poor one) but it would be a steaming, fetid dug poop of a PPV fight undercard.

Allen’s transformation into an undercard PPV must have is one the more bizarre UK boxing developments of this decade

Yea thats the one. 22-2, 25 years old, only beaten by someone whos only defeat is fury... It can work on paper.. This is not a PPV anymore at least, hence they can get away with this.

Aye it’s no worse than DD’s last opponent, although I suppose that was at very short notice.

The Allen circus roles on to its next stop I suppose. A white knuckle ride till the end..... day

that kid he's fighting sucks

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑07 Nov 2020, 04:37 that kid he's fighting sucks

As does Allen. Maybe not as much, but not far off

Allen now claiming he’s retired. Probs a publicity stunt.

ash_ wrote: ↑15 Nov 2020, 07:07 Allen now claiming he’s retired. Probs a publicity stunt.

Yeh just seen.. Sky just announced it aswell.