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I do think Calzaghe with healthy hands is one of the ones to beat. Giving someone like Ali more power's fine on paper, but that's probably intrinsic to why he was so gifted.

Same as how Tyson could've had a longer reign with a different attitude, but might've lost some of the ferocity that made him awesome in the '80s.

David Haye, - stronger toes. G.O.A.T heavyweight.

James DeGale - Mute.

Golota - mental toughness.

Jimmy2020 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2020, 11:32 Pernell Whittaker with power equals ATGreatest

Oliver McCall: Mental Health.

Salvador Sanchez: More time.

oogiebe wrote: ↑17 Nov 2020, 18:06 Salvador Sanchez: More time.

Way to kill the mood

Naz: humbleness

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑17 Nov 2020, 18:29

oogiebe wrote: ↑17 Nov 2020, 18:06 Salvador Sanchez: More time.

Way to kill the mood

LOL! Came to mind.

Grilling Machine wrote: ↑17 Nov 2020, 17:48 I do think Calzaghe with healthy hands is one of the ones to beat. Giving someone like Ali more power's fine on paper, but that's probably intrinsic to why he was so gifted.

Honestly, I think Calzaghe with healthy hands (and more ambition in his matchmaking) would have been PFP all-time top 10. Absolutely every natural gift going. (Except the hands, obviously)

Uncle vodka kovalev with excellet stamina

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑17 Nov 2020, 11:29

(craig) wrote: ↑17 Nov 2020, 11:24Khan - chin

AJ - chin?

Price - chin?

Larry Holmes: an arch rival.

give a boxer one fish, and he'll eat for a day

teach him to fish, and he'll eat for life

of course you could give him a fish and teach him to fish lol

Errol Christie... if he was blessed with better whiskers he could have been world champ as he had all the skills to pay the bills.

Ricky Hatton - Nutritionist

Frostieballs wrote: ↑18 Nov 2020, 05:28 Ricky Hatton - Nutritionist

He had a great one, he just couldn’t keep an eye on him out of camp.

Bruno – survival instincts
Andy Ruiz – head movement
Rigondeaux – marketability

Many posters posts chin as attribute. I think chin and ability to take a punch is necessary if you wanna be world elite. If you look at best boxers in history, almost all of them had good chins. Or excellent defense

Cent0089 wrote: ↑18 Nov 2020, 08:13 Many posters posts chin as attribute. I think chin and ability to take a punch is necessary if you wanna be world elite. If you look at best boxers in history, almost all of them had good chins. Or excellent defense

It's a one of the most important qualities.

You don't have to dig deep. Look at Ali. The Doug Jones bout could have been far more controversial, if not Ali's chin. Henry Cooper caught Ali very hard, if not the chin, Ali wouldn't stand up. Even Cleveland Williams was able to land a troublesome punch and Ali's performance wasn't smothered by it because of his chin. And look how many punishment Ali took in the Fight of the Century. He had a remarkable chin, he wouldn't be that great without it.

Marciano wasn't a defensive wizard and without his chin he wouldn't be a champ at all.

If not Vitali's chin, he wouldn't even finish that 6th round against Lewis and would end up like his brother against Sanders.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑18 Nov 2020, 05:33

Frostieballs wrote: ↑18 Nov 2020, 05:28 Ricky Hatton - Nutritionist

He had a great one, he just couldn’t keep an eye on him out of camp.

True that. Maybe I should have said supervisor!

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑17 Nov 2020, 17:54James DeGale - Mute.

For a frighter buture.

dookus wrote: ↑17 Nov 2020, 21:58Honestly, I think Calzaghe with healthy hands (and more ambition in his matchmaking) would have been PFP all-time top 10. Absolutely every natural gift going. (Except the hands, obviously)

Yeah, I think we'd rate him more highly with a couple of losses, crazy as that sounds. If he'd really pushed himself to go to the US and fought their best, he'd have been embarrassed by no-one except maybe Jones. But 40yo McCallum went 12 against Jones, so I can easily imagine the prime Calzaghe managing it (despite the pace he'd have fought at).

Maybe he planned to step it up after Reid but then his hands started giving him trouble. That's the first time I remember him having a problem?

Gnome wrote: ↑17 Nov 2020, 17:56 Golota - mental toughness.

Not sure. I used to think that but I'm not sure he was as good as I thought he was. The Bowe fights may have flattered to deceive. Riddick was more shot than we thought. Andrezj's fight with Corey Sanders was a great scrap but probably showed his true level.

Corrie Sanders - more passion for the sport.

More durability for Vitali. Both skin and body. He had all the other stuff. I think he would have been one of the all time greats.

Pair of balls for Floyd so that he would have fought the best opponents out there. Waste of talent. I currently rank him below Pac for example. It is all about who you beat and how close to peak they were...

Bit more dicipline for Andy Ruiz. With better training and diet he could be a title holder in this era.

Bit more pop for Usyk. He has everything else.

Bit of boxing skill for Wilder. He has speed, power, stamina and chin. Skills is the problem.