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margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Dec 2020, 04:34 Khan was more successful in 6 rounds than any of the others were in their whole fights. He was the only guy of them who was boxing at Canelo's level and hanging competiviely with him, could make a case that he was ahead and he was never outclassed in a round until the ending. t

LOL it's like you're not even factoring in the FACT that Khan got spectaluarly KO'd brutally in just the 6th round. , looking like he was DEAD on the floor haha. He couldn't even last half the fight with Canelo.

Canelo was just warming up, slow start, wasn't even really trying, then he started timing him in the 4th and 5th, Then the second he lands a decent shot, BOOM it's over!!!

Who cares if Khan won a few of the early rounds it's meaningless. The second Canelo wanted it to be over it was over.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Dec 2020, 05:52 Majority of UK based boxers almost always lose to US/Mexican boxers..

There's literally a handful that don't fall into this..

you are back to sounding like a typical racist Khan casual fan on youtube here. That's a terrible comment mate.

It's just so not true. It's not like USA and Mexico dominate every weightclass. USA only really dominate Welterweight that's it. And Mexico are only strong in the lower weights. It's rare for their to even be a top Mexican above lightweight like Canelo. 9 times out of 10 a Brit faces a Mexican above lightweight the Brit beats their ass.

All countries boxers lose when they are facing the best p4p boxers lol. it's like saying Brit fighters always lose to Ukrainians just cause to Lomachenko and Usyk spank every Brit they face. It's like saying all American fighters lose to brits cause Joe Calzaghe whooped them all.

I can't see any of our 3 best fighters atm Fury, Taylor and Joshua losing to a American or Mexican anytime soon.

It's not like America and Mexico are some 'dominant species' in boxing, Look at how poor they are in Amateur boxing for example. There's loads of weightclasses in the pros where they are not among the best boxers. I don't think anyone is the clear dominant force but if I was to talk like that...I would tend to agree with Paulie Malignaggi that Eastern European/ex Soviets are the best. Definitely not Americans lol this aint the 80s/90s.

1 Liam Smith
2 Callum Smith
3 Matthew Hatton
4 Rhodes
5 Khan
6 Fielding

1. Khan
2. Hatton
3. Callum
4. Rhodes
5. Liam
6. Fielding

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Dec 2020, 08:14

mickey1975 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2020, 07:31

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Dec 2020, 05:52 Majority of UK based boxers almost always lost to US/Mexican boxers..

There's literally a handful that don't fall into this..

The Gypsy King?

Amir Khan didn't do too bad there, had a number of fights there when he signed with GBP.

Khan is actually a clear example of what you're trying to imply lol >> Crawford, Alvarez, Peterson, Danny garcia

Stanny Onis wrote: ↑21 Dec 2020, 08:37

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Dec 2020, 05:52 Majority of UK based boxers almost always lose to US/Mexican boxers..

There's literally a handful that don't fall into this..

you are back to sounding like a typical racist Khan casual fan on youtube here. That's a terrible comment mate.

I'm British... I root for our Brits, but i'm also a realist.

Don't know about the Khan comment. Nearly everyone on this thread is saying Khan performed the best against Canelo. Call them out too. Don't know why you're always picking out my comments.

Seem's like you just don't like Khan? Why is that?

I don't give 2 craps about Khan, but as a boxing fan, I respect his achievements and the fact that he's always been in exciting fights, regardless of outcome, chin, duck, quit, whatever you want to call it.

You know what, don't even reply to me.. I'm not looking to argue. opinions is all it is.

Good day

Stanny Onis wrote: ↑21 Dec 2020, 08:54
Khan is actually a clear example of what you're trying to imply lol >> Crawford, Alvarez, Peterson, Danny garcia

He's also had his fair share of wins..

Like Lennox Lewis, he spent most of his prime years fighting in the US.

I don't know how getting sparked out so brutally in 6 rounds can be an achievement. That knock out video has been viewed, laughed at and ridiculed all over the world millions of times, it's embarrassing being the victim of that. Callum Smith was never hurt once in the entire fight against the best ever version of Alvarez, that's more credible.

Khan arguably won more rounds, than the remaining five together.

Massive shame Khan-Canelo wasn’t 4x3s

Stanny Onis wrote: ↑21 Dec 2020, 09:20 I don't know how getting sparked out so brutally in 6 rounds can be an achievement. That knock out video has been viewed, laughed at and ridiculed all over the world millions of times, it's embarrassing being the victim of that. Callum Smith was never hurt once in the entire fight against the best ever version of Alvarez, that's more credible.

Callum was in survival mode for most of the fight. He never actually tried to win. It's easier to go the distance when you come in with the mindset of a journeyman.

Khan came to win. Big difference.

Even Loma did more in the first 6 rounds against Lopez than Cal did in 12 rounds.

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑21 Dec 2020, 09:39

Stanny Onis wrote: ↑21 Dec 2020, 09:20 I don't know how getting sparked out so brutally in 6 rounds can be an achievement. That knock out video has been viewed, laughed at and ridiculed all over the world millions of times, it's embarrassing being the victim of that. Callum Smith was never hurt once in the entire fight against the best ever version of Alvarez, that's more credible.

Callum was in survival mode for most of the fight. He never actually tried to win. It's easier to go the distance when you come in with the mindset of a journeyman.

Bollocks, he was throwing power punches in every round, let plenty of combinations go aswell, he just couldn't seem to land clean.

He was forced back to the ropes by Canelo, but usually tried to either roll or fight his way off them. He only clinched excessively in the last round after he had the fight beat out of him.

I get that you don't like him, but there is no need to start making sh*t up to discredit him.

He did the best he could and was beaten by the better man, that is it. He has nothing to be ashamed of.

I do like him. He looked weak and got hammered. None of his shots bothered Canelo in the slightest. Maybe it's time for him to move up in weight or simply hang them up. There's nothing for him at SWM any more. When you're exposed like that at a weight, you may as well move to another one where you'll be stronger.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑21 Dec 2020, 09:37 Massive shame Khan-Canelo wasn’t 4x3s

Jimmy2020 wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 07:21 None of his shots bothered Canelo in the slightest.

that was pretty much the most depressing part from his perspective, whenever he did let his hands go, (1) he just seemed like what he is, a long-armed stiffie trying and failing to throw short-ish range combinations, and landing what he did with little-no snap or impact (2) they bounced- or more accurately kindof glanced- off Canelo like he was in armour and (3) he was then made to pay

I’m worried about how Paul will take this. And Boomer. They had Callum a cert to beat Fury and AJ on the same night.

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 07:26

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑21 Dec 2020, 09:37 Massive shame Khan-Canelo wasn’t 4x3s

Canelo would've ended it earlier.. Or if he could.

Imagine that, after 4 rounds, leading the Khans, there's an accidental clash of heads.. goes to the scorecards.

The Canelo that caught Smith is the best he’s been. Slick, powerful, I’d have hated to be Callum on that night.

Khan got blasted out the second Canelo wanted it over. I can’t quite understand how it can be construed he did the best, when others lasted the distance

Khan gave him ‘fits’

Canelo would’ve wanted it over in the first second.

Khan made a mistake.

As if Julian Jackson just chose to take Herol Graham when he did, waiting around.

Agree with mickey1975. Khan came to win and that does make a big difference.

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 08:11 The Canelo that caught Smith is the best he’s been. Slick, powerful, I’d have hated to be Callum on that night.

Khan got blasted out the second Canelo wanted it over. I can’t quite understand how it can be construed he did the best, when others lasted the distance

Khan gave him ‘fits’

khan won more rounds than the other guys did even fighting longer fights, he was the only one who was actually competitive and hanging with alvarez, landing good shots and even making him miss wildly at times. he did this all fighting a much bigger guy. i dont think alvarez just suddenly decided he was going to end it. he wasnt really pushing all that particularly hard compared to before, he just caught khan and of couurse ol glass chin got creamed

i dont think lasting more rounds but being a totally uncompetitive punch bag and just getting whalloped more is really that impressive

the way i look at it, only one guy managed to box at canelo's level and actually 'hang' with him. that is more of a feat and takes a higher level of performance (fewer guys could do it) than simply taking a beating for longer. and let's be honest, ppl say it was obviously only a matter of time till khan got splatted, but it was obvious the other dudes were gonna lose too

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 12:10

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 08:11 The Canelo that caught Smith is the best he’s been. Slick, powerful, I’d have hated to be Callum on that night.

Khan got blasted out the second Canelo wanted it over. I can’t quite understand how it can be construed he did the best, when others lasted the distance

Khan gave him ‘fits’

khan won more rounds than the other guys did even fighting longer fights, he was the only one who was actually competitive and hanging with alvarez, landing good shots and even making him miss wildly at times. he did this all fighting a much bigger guy. i dont think alvarez just suddenly decided he was going to end it. he wasnt really pushing all that particularly hard compared to before, he just caught khan and of couurse ol glass chin got creamed

i dont think lasting more rounds but being a totally uncompetitive punch bag and just getting whalloped more is really that impressive

the way i look at it, only one guy managed to box at canelo's level and actually 'hang' with him. that is more of a feat and takes a higher level of performance (fewer guys could do it) than simply taking a beating for longer. and let's be honest, ppl say it was obviously only a matter of time till khan got splatted, but it was obvious the other dudes were gonna lose too

Come on Maggie, you don’t really think Khan was hanging with Canelo, do you? He absolutely wasn’t. He shoeshined him a couple of times, moved fairly well and then bam, KO. Smith took for more punishment against a far better version of Alvarez. It’s a moot point tho really as both got smashed and none actually did well at all.

Matty Hatton dug deeper than any of them.