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Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 23 Jan 2021, 07:49
by orbtastic
Didn’t Sean O’Grady give up his wba title to start with some nonsense made up title his dad/manager/promoter created?

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 23 Jan 2021, 08:02
by Jimmy2020
Boxers who give up their belts invariably do so because the promoter who owns them instructs them to. There are exceptions but not many. Professional boxing isn't a sport, it's a money making exercise and any event involving Josh Warrington at the moment is going to lose a promoter money. The best thing for Warrington's owners is for him to get 'injured' and knock this Lara job on the head and wait Covid-19 restrictions out.

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 23 Jan 2021, 08:05
by banjo
orbtastic wrote: 23 Jan 2021, 07:49 Didn’t Sean O’Grady give up his wba title to start with some nonsense made up title his dad/manager/promoter created?
Yeah the WAA title, lost it straight away to Andy Ganigan.

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 23 Jan 2021, 10:01
by Coco
Jimmy2020 wrote: 23 Jan 2021, 08:02 Boxers who give up their belts invariably do so because the promoter who owns them instructs them to. There are exceptions but not many. Professional boxing isn't a sport, it's a money making exercise and any event involving Josh Warrington at the moment is going to lose a promoter money. The best thing for Warrington's owners is for him to get 'injured' and knock this Lara job on the head and wait Covid-19 restrictions out.
Fingers crossed Warrington will benefit from this but so far his relationship with Matchroom has born no fruit!

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 23 Jan 2021, 11:12
by BillyTKid
James Degale gave up IBF belt.

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 23 Jan 2021, 11:23
by Steveh583
BillyTKid wrote: 23 Jan 2021, 11:12 James Degale gave up IBF belt.
good shout. forgot that

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 23 Jan 2021, 14:50
by Ruthless-RKO
Pugilist-specialist wrote: 23 Jan 2021, 05:40
Tuan_Jim wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 20:38 Lennox Lewis binned his WBA belt rather than fight Ruiz and then his IBF belt rather than fight Byrd.
Fray Bentos wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 22:43 Lloyd Honeyghan gave up his WBA belt than fight Harold Volbrecht - he would have had no problem with beating Volbrecht but at the time he would not fight a white South African because of that country's apartheid system. He was actually pictured throwing the WBA belt into a bin.
:TU: Both held another world title.
Thread title should be “gave up their ONLY belt”..

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 24 Jan 2021, 05:52
by Cholo_cws
Honeyghan was in the ridiculous position of having to lose a belt because if he had chosen to fight Volbrecht he would have been stripped by the WBC for fighting a South African.
Michael Spinks relinquished his IBF heavyweight belt as he chose not to fight mandatory Tony Tucker.
Antonio Tarver (WBC) and Glen Johnson (IBF) effectively gave up their titles to fight each other rather than their mandatories (Paul Briggs (Tarver) and Rico Hoye (Johnson.)
Marco Antonio Barrera gave up his WBC super-featherweight belt. I can't recall why. Something to do with WBC dictates I believe.

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 24 Jan 2021, 06:48
by bennie
A ton of fighters gave up their belts when moving up in weight (Robinson, Charles, Griffith, Duran, Chavez, Hearns, Spinks...). Alexis Arguello relinquished world titles at featherweight, super-featherweight and lightweight prior to his classic encounter with Aaron Pryor in Miami in 1982.

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 24 Jan 2021, 06:57
by Onetimeonly
Larry Holmes dumped his belt and fought Frazier.

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 24 Jan 2021, 07:24
by Coco
I'm sure that someone gave up their title to fight Naz, I reckon Vasquez

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 24 Jan 2021, 07:36
by bennie
banjo wrote: 23 Jan 2021, 08:05
orbtastic wrote: 23 Jan 2021, 07:49 Didn’t Sean O’Grady give up his wba title to start with some nonsense made up title his dad/manager/promoter created?
Yeah the WAA title, lost it straight away to Andy Ganigan.

Pat O'Grady ruined a great talent. His son gave Jim Watt a magnificent fight in Glasgow for the WBC lightweight title and proved it was no fluke when he licked Kronk's first world champion, the unbeaten Hilmer Kenty, for the WBA title a few months later in Atlantic City. Then Pat refused to let his son sign for a mandatory defence against Trinidad's Claude Noel - a man Sean would have destroyed - in a power game with promoter Bob Arum and cost his son the belt when the WBA promptly stripped him. Pat then came up with his laughable WAA title but nobody was laughing (apart from Arum) when the huge-punching Andy Ganigan destroyed Sean in two rounds and finished him as a top-flight fighter.

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 24 Jan 2021, 08:51
by mickey1975
Coco wrote: 24 Jan 2021, 07:24 I'm sure that someone gave up their title to fight Naz, I reckon Vasquez
Tom Johnson?

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 24 Jan 2021, 08:56
by Fray Bentos
mickey1975 wrote: 24 Jan 2021, 08:51
Coco wrote: 24 Jan 2021, 07:24 I'm sure that someone gave up their title to fight Naz, I reckon Vasquez
Tom Johnson?
That South African kid, Bungu - he moved up in weight to fight Naz. :TU:

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 24 Jan 2021, 09:03
by Fray Bentos
Thomas Hearns gave up his WBC light heavyweight belt without defending it to go back down to middleweight to fight for their WBC title against Juan Roldan.

Evander Holyfield gave up all his cruiserweight belts to go up to heavyweight.

Any champion who went up in weight would have probably had to give up the belt at their former weight... :maybe:

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 24 Jan 2021, 09:05
by mickey1975
Fray Bentos wrote: 24 Jan 2021, 08:56
mickey1975 wrote: 24 Jan 2021, 08:51
Coco wrote: 24 Jan 2021, 07:24 I'm sure that someone gave up their title to fight Naz, I reckon Vasquez
Tom Johnson?
ThatSouth African kid, Bungu - he moved up in weight to fight Naz. :TU:
Just checked, I was wrong. Don’t know why I thought that.

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 24 Jan 2021, 09:12
by Fray Bentos
mickey1975 wrote: 24 Jan 2021, 09:05
Fray Bentos wrote: 24 Jan 2021, 08:56
mickey1975 wrote: 24 Jan 2021, 08:51
Tom Johnson?
ThatSouth African kid, Bungu - he moved up in weight to fight Naz. :TU:
Just checked, I was wrong. Don’t know why I thought that.
I remember Bungu giving up his title to fight Naz after making a thousand and one defences and I thought he stood a chance... silly me as the fight turned out. :doh:

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 24 Jan 2021, 09:21
by Coco
I was right, Vasquez had multiple WBA defences before dumping it to fight Hamed for decent money

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 25 Jan 2021, 11:29
by TheGman
Tyson fury before he got stripped

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 25 Jan 2021, 11:57
by garethhop
Paul Butler went up to Bantamweight and won the IBF off Stuart Hall, and gave it up to come back down in weight, before going back up in weight.....