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Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 01:24
by gregregegg
Onetimeonly wrote: 21 Feb 2021, 01:11
ldlamb wrote: 21 Feb 2021, 01:09 Broner is just not good anymore...what a waste....he’ll regret it someday.
Drop the anymore, he got as far as he could.
He got pretty far to be fair.

Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 01:24
by ldlamb
I don’t know....I thought he was pretty good up until about the Porter fight....but landing 7 punches a round consistently now is trash.

Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 01:25
by ldlamb
That decision was trash.

Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 01:25
by gilgamesh
8 rounds to 4 or so for Santiago wouldn't you guys say?

Plus a point deduction so that'd make it 115-112. I don't really see how you could give this fight to Broner, but I wouldn't be shocked if they steal it for him anyway. Let's see.

Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 01:27
by gilgamesh
Not too shocked by that. He didn't deserve it at all, but the TV networks love the guy. Not the first time Broner has gotten a decision he didn't deserve. Might be the last though.

Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 01:28
by BROZO
WOW. Stuff like this is what has boxing fans leaving for MMA

Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 01:28
by margaret thatcher
pretty much everyone agrees santiago wins clearly................judge turns in 117-110 broner and he wins ud


yep, seems about right, it's boxing after all :yay:

Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 01:30
by gilgamesh
BROZO wrote: 21 Feb 2021, 01:28 WOW. Stuff like this is what has boxing fans leaving for MMA
The sport is just shameless.

Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 01:37
by AntonioMartin
I had it 114-113 for Santiago but I think he didn't do enough to win it at least convincingly..

This was another John John Molina-Oscar De La Hoya when I had Molina up by one, 114-113 IIRC but he did not do enough to beat the name fighter convincingly, therefore the judges gave it to the superstar, by wide margins IIRC too!

The scores were outlandish, through...in due honesty, I think it is another one of those "could have gone either way" bout..at best my countryman won, at worst, it could have gone either way.

Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 01:40
by gilgamesh
AntonioMartin wrote: 21 Feb 2021, 01:37 I had it 114-113 for Santiago but I think he didn't do enough to win it at least convincingly..

This was another John John Molina-Oscar De La Hoya when I had Molina up by one, 114-113 IIRC but he did not do enough to beat the name fighter convincingly, therefore the judges gave it to the superstar, by wide margins IIRC too!

The scores were outlandish, through...in due honesty, I think it is another one of those "could have gone either way" bout..at best my countryman won, at worst, it could have gone either way.
This was always intended to be what it now is. Get Broner a win on TV so that you can sell him as an opponent for a comebacking Keith Thurman or Danny Garcia or whatever, and of course he'll lose convincingly against anyone like that.

Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 01:51
by Perseus
I'm hoping for an Easter vs Broner fight in Cincinnati or Toledo.
At this point I think Easter could win.

Gilgamesh is probably right about Broner being lined up as an opponent for Thurman or Garcia but it would be nice if they aren't interested in the Broner clown show.
Easter vs Broner would sell here in Ohio.

Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 02:03
by margaret thatcher
i think easter and broner pull the friends card when it comes to them fighting

and possibly for the best, 2 guys who do more fiddling around then fighting in recent performances.

Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 02:07
by gilgamesh
Perseus wrote: 21 Feb 2021, 01:51 I'm hoping for an Easter vs Broner fight in Cincinnati or Toledo.
At this point I think Easter could win.

Gilgamesh is probably right about Broner being lined up as an opponent for Thurman or Garcia but it would be nice if they aren't interested in the Broner clown show.
Easter vs Broner would sell here in Ohio.
I'm not sure Easter vs Broner would be all that interesting to anybody anywhere.

Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 02:09
by Onetimeonly
BROZO wrote: 21 Feb 2021, 01:28 WOW. Stuff like this is what has boxing fans leaving for MMA
Mma has the same judges, better fights is what has fans more on mma. I never considered watching this.

Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 03:08
by Perseus
gilgamesh wrote: 21 Feb 2021, 02:07
Perseus wrote: 21 Feb 2021, 01:51 I'm hoping for an Easter vs Broner fight in Cincinnati or Toledo.
At this point I think Easter could win.

Gilgamesh is probably right about Broner being lined up as an opponent for Thurman or Garcia but it would be nice if they aren't interested in the Broner clown show.
Easter vs Broner would sell here in Ohio.
I'm not sure Easter vs Broner would be all that interesting to anybody anywhere.
Maybe.
Easter already filled the Huntington Center to the roof(a little over 9000) once for a fight with the legendary Luis Cruz.
Toledoans aren't used to top level........um..........anything.
When something close comes along they sell.
Cincinnati has bigger arenas down there so Easter vs Broner might not fill them but I think it could fill the Huntington Center in Toledo.

Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 04:16
by Ruthless-RKO
He just just throw enough

Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 04:22
by Ruthless-RKO
Compubox

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Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 04:27
by Ruthless-RKO
Official Scorecards

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Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 04:28
by Ruthless-RKO
Don’t normally agree with CompuBox. But this one seems about right..

Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 04:40
by KiwiRider
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Feb 2021, 04:28 Don’t normally agree with CompuBox. But this one seems about right..
You could just about count Broner's punches on your fingers each round.

Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 04:52
by KiwiRider
margaret thatcher wrote: 21 Feb 2021, 02:03 i think easter and broner pull the friends card when it comes to them fighting

and possibly for the best, 2 guys who do more fiddling around then fighting in recent performances.
Oh gawd. A one punch per round posturing charade.
No way do I want to see that. I was quite bored during this fight.
About Boredom.

Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 05:28
by gregregegg
Hang on, did broner win round 1 on two judges cards without landing a single punch?

Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 07:06
by Fightnight Scores
Another stinker of scoring?? Did not see this fight.

Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 07:37
by joshj909
gregregegg wrote: 21 Feb 2021, 05:28 Hang on, did broner win round 1 on two judges cards without landing a single punch?
Usually there's the argument of subjectivity when judges are criticised, but if this was appealed, what can the commission say about the assessment of that round without completely rewriting the objectives of boxing.

Re: Adrien Broner vs. Jovanie Santiago - February 20, 2021

Posted: 21 Feb 2021, 08:54
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Broner is willie pep, won a round without landing a single punch