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maverick23 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 07:40 On that Sportekz link you sent their references are places like BoxingNews24 and Boxing Forum! Hardly reliable sources.

I can believe the JoJo Diaz purse but I’m not buying his purse for the Martinez or his last fight.

Dan Rafael came up with the same figure. Russell jnr turned down the Matchroom bid saying it is beneath the level that he is getting. maverick23 obviously knows better.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 07:50 I dread to think how low the offers were! He’ll end up doing a Sheffield special quoting the infamous strictness of the ibf which is how we ended up with Jo Jo Dan and Kev Bizier.

You're rambling again.
Hope that you get the help that you need.

Pugilist-specialist wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 09:47

maverick23 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 07:40 On that Sportekz link you sent their references are places like BoxingNews24 and Boxing Forum! Hardly reliable sources.

I can believe the JoJo Diaz purse but I’m not buying his purse for the Martinez or his last fight.

Dan Rafael came up with the same figure. Russell jnr turned down the Matchroom bid saying it is beneath the level that he is getting. maverick23 obviously knows better.

Sportekz is not accurate. They guess the fighters purse, based on their previous fights.

Dan is accurate, as he usually gets his purse figures from the commission.

His tweet was, "I was told ... ".. So in this case, can't really go with this.

But I remember at the time, another website was stating $1.4m too.

Pugilist-specialist wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 09:55

mickey1975 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 07:50 I dread to think how low the offers were! He’ll end up doing a Sheffield special quoting the infamous strictness of the ibf which is how we ended up with Jo Jo Dan and Kev Bizier.

You're rambling again.
Hope that you get the help that you need.

I’m fine, looking forward to Hopey Price tonight and Sheffield’s best prospect, Dalton Smith.

Pugilist-specialist wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 09:47

maverick23 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 07:40 On that Sportekz link you sent their references are places like BoxingNews24 and Boxing Forum! Hardly reliable sources.

I can believe the JoJo Diaz purse but I’m not buying his purse for the Martinez or his last fight.

Dan Rafael came up with the same figure. Russell jnr turned down the Matchroom bid saying it is beneath the level that he is getting. maverick23 obviously knows better.

I’m not disputing the JoJo Diaz fight purse (as I said in my post you quoted). Did Dan report the other purses too?

When a site acknowledges that they use forums to get their information I think you’d be a mug to take it as gospel!

Also Russell didn’t say the offer was below what he was getting. He said the below....

‘’Eddie Hearn reached out to me through Instagram,” Russell told co-hosts Kenneth Bouhairie and Michael Rosenthal in an episode that debuted Wednesday on premierboxingchampions.com. “He offered me a million dollars to fight Josh Warrington for a unification match. And I felt like it was a little, it was beneath my standards.”

Sorry for letting facts get in the way.

maverick23 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 10:34

Pugilist-specialist wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 09:47

maverick23 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 07:40 On that Sportekz link you sent their references are places like BoxingNews24 and Boxing Forum! Hardly reliable sources.

I can believe the JoJo Diaz purse but I’m not buying his purse for the Martinez or his last fight.

Dan Rafael came up with the same figure. Russell jnr turned down the Matchroom bid saying it is beneath the level that he is getting. maverick23 obviously knows better.

I’m not disputing the JoJo Diaz fight purse (as I said in my post you quoted). Did Dan report the other purses too?

When a site acknowledges that they use forums to get their information I think you’d be a mug to take it as gospel!

Also Russell didn’t say the offer was below what he was getting. He said the below....

‘’Eddie Hearn reached out to me through Instagram,” Russell told co-hosts Kenneth Bouhairie and Michael Rosenthal in an episode that debuted Wednesday on premierboxingchampions.com. “He offered me a million dollars to fight Josh Warrington for a unification match. And I felt like it was a little, it was beneath my standards.”

Sorry for letting facts get in the way.

If you want facts you'd better check the contracts.
These are the available "estimated figures".

https://www.fightsaga.com/fightsaga/fig ... -nyambayar

It's easy to keep the Warrington footy fans on board by making offers to champions. The fact that it is for less than the "estimated figures" of Russell's recent fights won't get through to the #MarchingOnTogether crew.

Pugilist-specialist wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 12:15

maverick23 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 10:34

Pugilist-specialist wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 09:47

Dan Rafael came up with the same figure. Russell jnr turned down the Matchroom bid saying it is beneath the level that he is getting. maverick23 obviously knows better.

I’m not disputing the JoJo Diaz fight purse (as I said in my post you quoted). Did Dan report the other purses too?

When a site acknowledges that they use forums to get their information I think you’d be a mug to take it as gospel!

Also Russell didn’t say the offer was below what he was getting. He said the below....

‘’Eddie Hearn reached out to me through Instagram,” Russell told co-hosts Kenneth Bouhairie and Michael Rosenthal in an episode that debuted Wednesday on premierboxingchampions.com. “He offered me a million dollars to fight Josh Warrington for a unification match. And I felt like it was a little, it was beneath my standards.”

Sorry for letting facts get in the way.

If you want facts you'd better check the contracts.
These are the available "estimated figures".

https://www.fightsaga.com/fightsaga/fig ... -nyambayar

It's easy to keep the Warrington footy fans on board by making offers to champions. The fact that it is for less than the "estimated figures" of Russell's recent fights won't get through to the #MarchingOnTogether crew.

Any proof of the offers ( ie screen shot) that have been sent or just from what Russell jnr said. Havent seen hearn say anything about an offer guessing something might b said tonight.

Pugilist-specialist wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 12:15

maverick23 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 10:34

Pugilist-specialist wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 09:47

Dan Rafael came up with the same figure. Russell jnr turned down the Matchroom bid saying it is beneath the level that he is getting. maverick23 obviously knows better.

I’m not disputing the JoJo Diaz fight purse (as I said in my post you quoted). Did Dan report the other purses too?

When a site acknowledges that they use forums to get their information I think you’d be a mug to take it as gospel!

Also Russell didn’t say the offer was below what he was getting. He said the below....

‘’Eddie Hearn reached out to me through Instagram,” Russell told co-hosts Kenneth Bouhairie and Michael Rosenthal in an episode that debuted Wednesday on premierboxingchampions.com. “He offered me a million dollars to fight Josh Warrington for a unification match. And I felt like it was a little, it was beneath my standards.”

Sorry for letting facts get in the way.

If you want facts you'd better check the contracts.
These are the available "estimated figures".

https://www.fightsaga.com/fightsaga/fig ... -nyambayar

It's easy to keep the Warrington footy fans on board by making offers to champions. The fact that it is for less than the "estimated figures" of Russell's recent fights won't get through to the #MarchingOnTogether crew.

I have no allegiance to either Warrington or Galahad - I like them both in fairness and given how dull their first fight was I don’t want to see the rematch.

So Fightsaga (another website I’ve never heard of before) are taking his reported purse from a much bigger fight and are adding $200k each side to it to get their estimate for this fight. Rubbish basis for it.

If that was the case wouldn’t have Russell Jr been more pissed off with Eddie’s offer? Rather than saying ‘I felt like it was a little, it was beneath my standards’, wouldn’t he have been ripping Eddie to shreds about his derisory offer?

maverick23 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 12:45
So Fightsaga (another website I’ve never heard of before) are taking his reported purse from a much bigger fight and are adding $200k each side to it to get their estimate for this fight. Rubbish basis for it.

If that was the case wouldn’t have Russell Jr been more pissed off with Eddie’s offer? Rather than saying ‘I felt like it was a little, it was beneath my standards’, wouldn’t he have been ripping Eddie to shreds about his derisory offer?

Unfortunately all the estimated figures for Russell jnr's last 3 purses are much too high to suit your argument.
Now you are dissecting Russell jnr's speech pattern to try and suit your argument.

It's simple. Warrington hasn't got a belt. If Hearn wants to entice a belt-holder over to Leeds he is going to have to pay top dollar.

Pugilist-specialist wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 05:36

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 05:13 Does anyone know Russell’s career high purse? What exactly is this guy waiting for? Sometimes you’ve got to roll the dice like Crawford did with Burns and come over. I would pick Russell to win

For Joseph Diaz he got a guaranteed $1.4m plus 60% of PPV split share. His last 2 fights he got $1m plus either 50% or 60% of PPV.

Jesus . I’d be interested to know the economics of these haymon shows. He pays these guys top dollar to mediocre reception.

Pugilist-specialist wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 13:50

maverick23 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 12:45
So Fightsaga (another website I’ve never heard of before) are taking his reported purse from a much bigger fight and are adding $200k each side to it to get their estimate for this fight. Rubbish basis for it.

If that was the case wouldn’t have Russell Jr been more pissed off with Eddie’s offer? Rather than saying ‘I felt like it was a little, it was beneath my standards’, wouldn’t he have been ripping Eddie to shreds about his derisory offer?

Unfortunately all the estimated figures for Russell jnr's last 3 purses are much too high to suit your argument.
Now you are dissecting Russell jnr's speech pattern to try and suit your argument.

It's simple. Warrington hasn't got a belt. If Hearn wants to entice a belt-holder over to Leeds he is going to have to pay top dollar.

My only argument is that I don’t believe the estimates you’ve provided for his last couple of fights to be accurate and the quote you gave was incorrect. Nothing about speech patterns but once again you seem to read something and then change it to what you want it to be.

Not everyone is anti-Galahad you know!

Pugilist-specialist wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 07:14

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Feb 2021, 06:50 diaz vs russell and tug and kiko were on normal showtime in the usa, not ppv. and russell wasnt even the main event for all those lol. cant imagine how awful foreign ppv numbers would be for those if they really did happen

though i guess for puggys sake it would help if russell was some ppv star


what happened to that massive kid g pbc deal btw?

He was the main event for Diaz and Nyambayar according to Boxrec. I don't see what you gain from claiming otherwise.

Kid G was offered deals from 3 companies before purse bids. He thinks he'll be in a stronger position with the belt.

read properly bruh, i said he wasnt even the main event for all of them, i didnt say he wasnt the main event for any of them. lol you think he's taking home 50-60 percent of the ppv (which didnt exist btw) as an undercard fighter?

where did you get the 50-60 ppv cut anyway? those fights were all on normal , non-ppv showtime

You don’t always get an increased purse every fight. The Diaz fight was a much better fight financially that the Tughshot fight.

He’s bound to have a similar or less purse.

Anyone can estimate.

The best sources for purses are Dan Rafael, Mike C, the state commissions..

Bet he,ll fight him for a lot less now