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Whyte most likely will destroy him when they meet again, Whyte was in the process of destroying him last time before he was so rudely interrupted. Sasha knew that. He knew he was fast running out of time, and it had to be very soon or not at all.

He suckered Whyte completely using his skills, his experience, and his impressive power. It was a deliberate, calculated, last throw of the dice. There was nothing lucky about it, unless you mean it was lucky Dillian wasn't alert to what Povetkin was planning. I think he will be next time.

candyslim wrote: ↑28 Feb 2021, 12:01 Whyte most likely will destroy him when they meet again, Whyte was in the process of destroying him last time before he was so rudely interrupted. Sasha knew that. He knew he was fast running out of time, and it had to be very soon or not at all.

He suckered Whyte completely using his skills, his experience, and his impressive power. It was a deliberate, calculated, last throw of the dice. There was nothing lucky about it, unless you mean it was lucky Dillian wasn't alert to what Povetkin was planning. I think he will be next time.

The way Povetkin flattened out Whyte for that long, I'm not sure anyone has desire to watch whtye fight again ...That was pure embarrassment

It's heavyweight boxing, boxtune. These guys hit very hard and you get a lot more knockouts in the higher weight divisions. Fighting someone as skilled, as experienced, and as cunning as Povetkin, who hits really hard even by heavyweight standards, is a very risky undertaking, and it's a very brave (or stupid depending on how you look at it) thing to do, especially when you are risking your mandatory status when you have no need to.

Most fighters in Whyte's position (WBC mandatory) would be content to sit on their arse and wait for their guaranteed title shot, maybe keep busy fighting a Bogdan Dinu ("Who"? I hear you ask) or a Rydell Booker. Dillian's not like that, he's a special kind of stupid, he fights guys that will hit him back ... very hard, which is why as a boxing fan I hold him in the highest esteem.

If you are a good fighter but you don't have a great chin, and you keep fighting quality opposition, you are inevitably not going to win them all. Back in the day when this was just what fighters did, they won fights, they lost fights and provided they fought their best, the word 'embarrassment' would have been totally out of place.

It's not out of place here though, because I think it's a perfect description of a dubious boxing fan that has nothing but hate for two of boxing's most courageous exponents. I don't really understand why I waste my time trying to reason with you boxtune, clearly it's a lost cause.

I didn’t think Povetkin would win the first fight, so I am not the one to ask.

However, I did ask if Povetkin were to win would he be a top 5 heavy of the 21st century (or since Lewis retired) and I do view him as that, win lose or draw in the upcoming fight.

well he's been a top 5 hw or close to it for like, what, over a decade now? and is currently now even at almost 42. and prob top 10 for almost 15 years. the longevity is there.


you should rank fury, aj, wlad, vitali, wilder over him

could say bryd (he was past it when pov battered him)


so maybe as high as about #6 or 7 since lewis retired almost 20 years ago, depending on where you cut off results, and defo top 10

although if you go to boxing scene, you''ll be called a racist for rating povetkin above luis ortiz

I think Povetkin wins by KO again.

Dillian Whyte was absolutely sparked in the worst way possible. It was a back and forth fight up to the KO, where both fighters had moments, but the ending was as decisive as it gets. Physically, a fighter's punch resistance deteriorates everytime they are KO'd, so this time around I expect Whyte to have even less punch resistance. Mentally, Whyte will never admit it but getting sparked that badly takes away from a fighter's confidence big time.

I think Whyte would have been better served with an easy touch or two, then a solid durable gatekeeper type opponent before jumping right back into the Lion's Den.

I think Whyte has one of those tough personalities and will be able to rebound mentally from the loss. I see him KOing povetkin and continuing his journey upwards.

keirw wrote: ↑26 Feb 2021, 14:49

Evander wrote: ↑26 Feb 2021, 03:14 Povetkin can't get lucky twice can he ?
Can he beat Dillian Whyte again ?
Venue Gibraltar, calling it The Rumble on the Rock March 27th aren't they.
Big fight for Whyte he has a lot on the line.

Povetkin didn't 'get lucky' the first time.
He found an opening and took full advantage.

Whyte will be the favourite again though, more so than the first fight as Povetkin has been very ill by all accounts.

But Povetkin always has a chance.

Oh I'm not underestimating or overlooking Povetkin at all.
Do I think he got a bit lucky against Whyte in the first fight ?
Yes I did, it looked to me like Whyte was on the verge of stopping him in the next few rounds, I was clearly wrong about that however that's what I felt at the time.

Povetkin sick is what you say ?
I don't know about that, if you want to share where you're getting that from, then I'm all ears.

Evander wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 01:00

keirw wrote: ↑26 Feb 2021, 14:49

Evander wrote: ↑26 Feb 2021, 03:14 Povetkin can't get lucky twice can he ?
Can he beat Dillian Whyte again ?
Venue Gibraltar, calling it The Rumble on the Rock March 27th aren't they.
Big fight for Whyte he has a lot on the line.

Povetkin didn't 'get lucky' the first time.
He found an opening and took full advantage.

Whyte will be the favourite again though, more so than the first fight as Povetkin has been very ill by all accounts.

But Povetkin always has a chance.

Oh I'm not underestimating or overlooking Povetkin at all.
Do I think he got a bit lucky against Whyte in the first fight ?
Yes I did, it looked to me like Whyte was on the verge of stopping him in the next few rounds, I was clearly wrong about that however that's what I felt at the time.

Povetkin sick is what you say ?
I don't know about that, if you want to share where you're getting that from, then I'm all ears.

he was in the hospital multiple times for covid and by accounts had a tough time with it early on, there is lots of news about it if you search

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 01:03

Evander wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 01:00

keirw wrote: ↑26 Feb 2021, 14:49

Povetkin didn't 'get lucky' the first time.
He found an opening and took full advantage.

Whyte will be the favourite again though, more so than the first fight as Povetkin has been very ill by all accounts.

But Povetkin always has a chance.

Oh I'm not underestimating or overlooking Povetkin at all.
Do I think he got a bit lucky against Whyte in the first fight ?
Yes I did, it looked to me like Whyte was on the verge of stopping him in the next few rounds, I was clearly wrong about that however that's what I felt at the time.

Povetkin sick is what you say ?
I don't know about that, if you want to share where you're getting that from, then I'm all ears.

he was in the hospital multiple times for covid and by accounts had a tough time with it early on, there is lots of news about it if you search

News, yeah.
If he was sick recently why would they be boxing anyway, unless the WBC made up a Covid Championship Weight Class, quite within the realms of possibility if you ask me.

If he lands a heavy shot again, he wins.
Nothing wrong with Whytes chin, but Povetkin can seriously crack.
If Povetkin cannot land a bomb, he gets put away himself.

wants dat money i guess, could be forced to rematch within a certain timeframe too based on the first contract?

That in the contract for the first fight ?

morm wrote: ↑28 Feb 2021, 08:50 Can not , first time it was just a lucky shot
Whyte destroy him if he meet him again.

Well if he gets lucky again, he leaves him cold again.

IF Whyte wins this time round, as he was supposed to...does anyone think a deicider and lucratice trilogy is on the cards? Or does Whyte and Eddie move on...as you were.
Maybe it depends on the manner of victory.

Povetkin's finisher was superbly worked, not a fluke, not a lucky shot.

Having said that he'd been down twice and he was getting battered. Unless he can produce another rabbit from the hat, this will be a case of Dillian setting the record straight, and he'll be free to move on.

If Dillian wins it will be emphatic. Neither of these guys are beating the other by decision. The win by either man is going to be emphatic although not necessarily conclusive if you appreciate the distinction.

Evander wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 01:00

keirw wrote: ↑26 Feb 2021, 14:49

Evander wrote: ↑26 Feb 2021, 03:14 Povetkin can't get lucky twice can he ?
Can he beat Dillian Whyte again ?
Venue Gibraltar, calling it The Rumble on the Rock March 27th aren't they.
Big fight for Whyte he has a lot on the line.

Povetkin didn't 'get lucky' the first time.
He found an opening and took full advantage.

Whyte will be the favourite again though, more so than the first fight as Povetkin has been very ill by all accounts.

But Povetkin always has a chance.

Oh I'm not underestimating or overlooking Povetkin at all.
Do I think he got a bit lucky against Whyte in the first fight ?
Yes I did, it looked to me like Whyte was on the verge of stopping him in the next few rounds, I was clearly wrong about that however that's what I felt at the time.

Povetkin sick is what you say ?
I don't know about that, if you want to share where you're getting that from, then I'm all ears.

It is relatively common knowledge that he had Covid and was in a bad way for a while.
Obviously he is virus free now, otherwise the fight wouldn't have been made.
But nobody knows the long term effects of Covid (and won't for years to come yet). Or how much his hospitalisation and subsequent recovery effected his preparations.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑26 Feb 2021, 18:29 If you can beat a man once you can beat him twice. I would pick Whyte in the rematch, but it's certainly not impossible for Povetkin to pull it off again.

Reminds me of Sor Rungasvai and Chocolatito (both fighting different opponents next weekend). Many refused to believe that Rungasvai would pull off another victory in their rematch ... they were DEAD wrong! In fact the former champion from Thailand did even better!

Jake Savage wrote: ↑03 Mar 2021, 22:01 I think Povetkin wins by KO again.

Dillian Whyte was absolutely sparked in the worst way possible. It was a back and forth fight up to the KO, where both fighters had moments, but the ending was as decisive as it gets. Physically, a fighter's punch resistance deteriorates everytime they are KO'd, so this time around I expect Whyte to have even less punch resistance. Mentally, Whyte will never admit it but getting sparked that badly takes away from a fighter's confidence big time.

I think Whyte would have been better served with an easy touch or two, then a solid durable gatekeeper type opponent before jumping right back into the Lion's Den.

I'd agree.

That kind of knockout will seriously undermine Whyte's confidence. Makes no difference what Dillian thinks, it simply must do.

Whyte is undoubtedly the most fearless top heavyweight fighting today.

Guys like him and Dubois with their warrior like attitude keep the division interesting whilst the rest jockey around for that elusive correct opportunity.

Surely we need more of that attitude - not less.

Surely the boxers need more reward for that attitude - not less.

This fight will be at least as interesting as their first one was.

Thomastearns wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 12:59

Jake Savage wrote: ↑03 Mar 2021, 22:01 I think Povetkin wins by KO again.

Dillian Whyte was absolutely sparked in the worst way possible. It was a back and forth fight up to the KO, where both fighters had moments, but the ending was as decisive as it gets. Physically, a fighter's punch resistance deteriorates everytime they are KO'd, so this time around I expect Whyte to have even less punch resistance. Mentally, Whyte will never admit it but getting sparked that badly takes away from a fighter's confidence big time.

I think Whyte would have been better served with an easy touch or two, then a solid durable gatekeeper type opponent before jumping right back into the Lion's Den.

I'd agree.

That kind of knockout will seriously undermine Whyte's confidence. Makes no difference what Dillian thinks, it simply must do.

Whyte is undoubtedly the most fearless top heavyweight fighting today.

Guys like him and Dubois with their warrior like attitude keep the division interesting whilst the rest jockey around for that elusive correct opportunity.

Surely we need more of that attitude - not less.

Surely the boxers need more reward for that attitude - not less.

This fight will be at least as interesting as their first one was.

I remember lot of people here and on social media saying it was basically a walkover for Whyte.
In the third round that prediction was nearly proved right.

The fact that we all know these two men are more than capable of doing serious damage to each other adds a lot of intrigue this time around.

Whyte is younger, bigger and stronger.

He'll win easily.

Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 14:03 Whyte is younger, bigger and stronger.

He'll win easily.

was he not the first time my man?

bigger, younger, stronger means shit in boxing,

it's not weight lifting or a body building contest.

nobody beats povetkin 'easily'. period.

@Maggie: Beat me to it.

@Thomastearns: You're right. When you see the kind of crap gets spoken about warriors like Whyte, Povetkin, Dubois, can you even wonder why some fighters try to avoid any opponent who looks like they might be tougher than Charles Hawtrey?