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Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 05:10
by Wee Tommy
brilo33 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2021, 20:43
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2021, 04:32
coneye wrote: ↑26 Mar 2021, 04:16
Fighters start to sniffle when there reaching a peak , he's gonna be fit , probably the fittest we have seen him , got know doubt he's taking it serious , but the problem is , he's only took the odd fight serious , up and down in shape and weight , Canelo has took his whole carreer serious , and thats why Canelo , will play it cool , put on the subtle pressure and increase the pace and the momentom in the second half and probably stop him .
Difference between a full time totally commited champion , and a guy who's been handed the right fights he did'nt have to work hard for
This.
Real deal, classy pro vs fraud, basically,
why is bjs a fraud though , he aint ducked the fights they just aint got made , when he was young he was fighting jonh ryder eubank jr, andy lee willy munroe ,
Munroe was terrible.
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 05:31
by gilgamesh
coneye wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 04:40
brilo33 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2021, 20:43
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2021, 04:32
This.
Real deal, classy pro vs fraud, basically,
why is bjs a fraud though , he aint ducked the fights they just aint got made , when he was young he was fighting jonh ryder eubank jr, andy lee willy munroe ,
tROUT .... fLOYD ... lARA .... cOTTO .... gOLOVKIN jACOBS
These guys are fighters. What else do they have to do with this conversation?
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 10:02
by PredatorHayds
Flu won’t bother BJS. He’s got plenty of nasal spray knocking around.
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 18:15
by coneye
gilgamesh wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 05:31
coneye wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 04:40
brilo33 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2021, 20:43
why is bjs a fraud though , he aint ducked the fights they just aint got made , when he was young he was fighting jonh ryder eubank jr, andy lee willy munroe ,
tROUT .... fLOYD ... lARA .... cOTTO .... gOLOVKIN jACOBS
Canelo was fighting these guys ,while Bj was fighting Munroe ,,,Ryder ect
These guys are fighters. What else do they have to do with this conversation?
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 18:18
by high tower 1
Is Saunders still sat up to all hours on social media. Can’t be good for a camp if so.
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 18:57
by ALI
Oiky wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 04:58
Bill gonna do a lot better than people reckon in this fight
Its not out of the question, but unlikely. Bill's comming to nick it, box and bag rounds. He might look to be doing ok early as Canelo warms into the fight, but i see Canelo getting on top around the 4th, and stopping Saunders anywhere between the 5th and 8th round.
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 18:58
by margaret thatcher
Oiky wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 04:58
Bill gonna do a lot better than people reckon in this fight
how well you think he does?
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 19:17
by brilo33
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 18:58
Oiky wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 04:58
Bill gonna do a lot better than people reckon in this fight
how well you think he does?
well good
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 19:19
by margaret thatcher
brilo33 wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 19:17
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 18:58
Oiky wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 04:58
Bill gonna do a lot better than people reckon in this fight
how well you think he does?
well good
how many rounds won for bjs does he need to = good
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 19:20
by brilo33
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 19:19
brilo33 wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 19:17
well good
how many rounds won for bjs does he need to = good
9 i would say
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 19:22
by margaret thatcher
you think he wins 9 rounds vs canelo my man? i cant see it myself, canelo is a hell of a fighter with skills, strength, speed, and power. only floyd won 9 vs nelo and nelos better since then
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 19:37
by brilo33
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 19:22
you think he wins 9 rounds vs canelo my man? i cant see it myself, canelo is a hell of a fighter with skills, strength, speed, and power. only floyd won 9 vs nelo and nelos better since then
of course i dont iant got flu ,
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 28 Mar 2021, 10:25
by Oiky
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 18:58
Oiky wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 04:58
Bill gonna do a lot better than people reckon in this fight
how well you think he does?
He will give a performance to be proud of and box out of his skin
He wouldn't be just a patsy for anybody,wouldn't show his face if he just walked in to lose,he couldn't be messed for akavov,we all know you should give 100% in all fights but that's the strength of it his heart wasn't in the akavov fight but for Canelo there is no way he will make a show of himself
In very good shape so far
Not saying he will win but it's gonna be some performance
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 28 Mar 2021, 17:16
by Wales
mickey1975 wrote: ↑25 Mar 2021, 17:55
Black Sam Bellamy wrote: ↑25 Mar 2021, 16:42
Cash out fight. Once he's lost this, there'll be no way back for him.
Millionaire?
Reports suggest he’s getting $8m for fighting Canelo. Considering his net worth is estimated at $2m the fight makes perfect sense business wise.
BJS will believe 100% that he can beat Canelo too. not all of Canelo’s opponents go into their fights believing that - Avni Yildarim was a beaten man before the fist bell sounded
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 28 Mar 2021, 17:39
by margaret thatcher
Wales wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 17:16
mickey1975 wrote: ↑25 Mar 2021, 17:55
Black Sam Bellamy wrote: ↑25 Mar 2021, 16:42
Cash out fight. Once he's lost this, there'll be no way back for him.
Millionaire?
Reports suggest he’s getting $8m for fighting Canelo. Considering his net worth is estimated at $2m the fight makes perfect sense business wise.
BJS will believe 100% that he can beat Canelo too. not all of Canelo’s opponents go into their fights believing that - Avni Yildarim was a beaten man before the fist bell sounded
how do you know what bjs believes my man, did you do a sit down psychological evaluation
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 28 Mar 2021, 18:04
by Wales
Nope, but I’ve been around lesser fighters facing bigger challenges and seen their positive mindset and self belief.
I’ve never sat down with BJS, but I strongly believe he’s going into this fight with 100% self belief he will win.
As hard as it is to believe from the outside looking in, fighters have an amazing self belief. How many gave Fury much of a chance against Wladamir in Germany.... Fury went into that fight 100% sure he would win. The top top athletes have to have that psychology.
I remember going to Dublin with Ricky Hatton and Billy Graham in August 2007. The belief they had that Ricky would beat Floyd was absolutely unwavering. There was absolutely no doubt whatsoever in that camp that Ricky was going to win the fight. We spoke about the game plan and it was completely full proof. Not a single seed of doubt that the fight would be won. I was fortunate enough to get a ticket from Hatton allocation and made the trip to Vegas 4 months later. Didn’t quite pan out as we thought
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 28 Mar 2021, 18:07
by margaret thatcher
what do you think callums self belief was like based on what you saw vs canelo
i mean you say fighters have amazing confidence, but then are saying fighters werent confident vs canelo?
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 28 Mar 2021, 18:37
by Wales
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 18:07
what do you think callums self belief was like based on what you saw vs canelo
Smith has openly said when he saw Canelo for first time face to face he thought “there’s no way someone that size can beat me”. He was super confident going into the fight...
Unfortunately self belief only gets you so far. Smith said he realised quite early how good Canelo was when Canelo was encouraging him to throw the long jab, which on paper was Smiths main weapon.
Not all fighters go into fights with that unwavering self belief, and many that do have it knocked out of them pretty quickly.
I wonder how long it was before Jeff Lacy realised he could do absolutely nothing with Joe Calzaghe .
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 28 Mar 2021, 18:44
by coghaugen11
Unless Jeff was deluded, about 150 seconds. The difference in speed, precision, movement and calmness was so vast it wasn’t even funny.
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 28 Mar 2021, 18:48
by coghaugen11
The 76/84/88 US amateurs were planets better than the 00/04/08/12/16 teams.
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 28 Mar 2021, 18:54
by Wales
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 18:44
Unless Jeff was deluded, about 150 seconds. The difference in speed, precision, movement and calmness was so vast it wasn’t even funny.
Have to give kudos to Lacy for not quitting. There would’ve been no shame in him telling his corner “no more”.
His corner on the other hand should’ve pulled him out long before the final bell.
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 10 Apr 2021, 04:19
by fanman
PredatorHayds wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 10:02
Flu won’t bother BJS. He’s got plenty of nasal spray knocking around.
To be honest we should expect a career best effort from bjs. What would that look like against such a master, as Canelo.
He should be able to move his feet & take some early rounds. It's very hard to imagine Canelo not figuring him out, but it's a genuine fight. Top 2 at super middle now.
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 10 Apr 2021, 08:57
by emallini
I expect a very good Saunders to turn up.
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 10 Apr 2021, 10:18
by Oiky
Going to be a great performance from Billyjoe
Re: So Saunders has flu etc
Posted: 10 Apr 2021, 11:23
by rubberneck
coneye wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 04:40
brilo33 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2021, 20:43
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2021, 04:32
This.
Real deal, classy pro vs fraud, basically,
why is bjs a fraud though , he aint ducked the fights they just aint got made , when he was young he was fighting jonh ryder eubank jr, andy lee willy munroe ,
tROUT .... fLOYD ... lARA .... cOTTO .... gOLOVKIN jACOBS
I seem to remember about 3 or 4 years ago watching an ifl interview with BJS. I think at the time a fight with Golovkin was being mooted but BJS said something along the lines of “there’s no way I’d fight Golovkin at the moment. I’m not stupid. I’ll wait for a few years til he’s on the slide”. I am paraphrasing here but I feel his stock dropped from then onwards IMO. Then all the silly YouTube “pranks” began...
I doubt he’d give a toss what my opinion is though
