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This is the great man, and his lovely wife, back in 1975.

Ray Fallone! A proper "journeyman".

Miles Templeton

Now, maybe we can get this picture added to his BoxRec page.

Its a cracker.

Controversial - I have pm'd you

Miles Templeton

prewarboxing wrote: ↑04 Apr 2021, 13:22

Now, maybe we can get this picture added to his BoxRec page.

Its a cracker.

Controversial - I have pm'd you

Miles Templeton

Good pic! No PM though Miles?

prewarboxing wrote: ↑04 Apr 2021, 13:18

This is the great man, and his lovely wife, back in 1975.

Ray Fallone! A proper "journeyman".

Miles Templeton

I've just read this, one thing I noticed though, it mentions Pat McCormack against whom he retired in three rounds claiming an injured hand, I assume that meant Fallone retired with an injured hand. He did fight Pat McCormack in December 1968 but lost on points over 6. The article was written in November 1975 but mentioned he fought McCormack 'six years ago at very short notice' which would have been 1969. Fallone commented that McCormack was a 'hard man'. So did they fight twice as that would mean Fallone had 101 fights? There is no fight currently listed where he retired in 3 so it’s not like the opponents name is getting mixed up.

Controversial wrote: ↑04 Apr 2021, 07:50

bennie wrote: ↑03 Apr 2021, 06:10 I remember Ray Fallone well. He did have 100 fights because it was a big story in Boxing News at the time and Ray was rightly heralded for his effort. The feeling was that Ray would be the last centurion in domestic boxing because the sport went through a real slump in the 1970s.

I notice all his fights were either 6 or 8 round bouts. Can you remember his style Bennie, spoiler type, brawler?

Sorry, mate, I missed your question. Fallone was a streetwise pro who jabbed well and kept an opponent honest with the occasional big right. When an opponent got too close, he knew how to smother and avoid the really big punches. He had a South London following in the days when boxing fans really appreciated the savvy campaigners.

bennie wrote: ↑05 Apr 2021, 04:09

Controversial wrote: ↑04 Apr 2021, 07:50

bennie wrote: ↑03 Apr 2021, 06:10 I remember Ray Fallone well. He did have 100 fights because it was a big story in Boxing News at the time and Ray was rightly heralded for his effort. The feeling was that Ray would be the last centurion in domestic boxing because the sport went through a real slump in the 1970s.

I notice all his fights were either 6 or 8 round bouts. Can you remember his style Bennie, spoiler type, brawler?

Sorry, mate, I missed your question. Fallone was a streetwise pro who jabbed well and kept an opponent honest with the occasional big right. When an opponent got too close, he knew how to smother and avoid the really big punches. He had a South London following in the days when boxing fans really appreciated the savvy campaigners.

losing on a cut or double vision are legit stoppages. you werent able to keep going. you had to stop. = stoppage. and to me an 'injury' is more like tripping and busting your ankle , or separating your shoulder. not being punched into double vision. obviously the chap was extremely durable and mustve known his way around a ring, but he shouldnt be passed off as never being stopped just because that sounds nicer


interesting to see they thought hed be the last to do 100, there's been 200 an even 300 since then. buckley and laight both have more than 2x as many losses as he has total fights

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑07 Apr 2021, 02:36 losing on a cut or double vision are legit stoppages. you werent able to keep going. you had to stop. = stoppage. and to me an 'injury' is more like tripping and busting your ankle , or separating your shoulder. not being punched into double vision. obviously the chap was extremely durable and mustve known his way around a ring, but he shouldnt be passed off as never being stopped just because that sounds nicer


interesting to see they thought hed be the last to do 100, there's been 200 an even 300 since then. buckley and laight both have more than 2x as many losses as he has total fights

there is a diff between Laignt and Buckley too, Laight generally was doing 4 rounders against novices whereas Buckley was a 2 weight area champ and fought any number of proper champs often in 8x3's

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑07 Apr 2021, 02:36 losing on a cut or double vision are legit stoppages. you werent able to keep going. you had to stop. = stoppage. and to me an 'injury' is more like tripping and busting your ankle , or separating your shoulder. not being punched into double vision. obviously the chap was extremely durable and mustve known his way around a ring, but he shouldnt be passed off as never being stopped just because that sounds nicer

Yes, I'm not too sure what the story behind the Guinness Book of Records claim his son made on that show that Fallone was the first fighter to reach a 100 fights and to never be stopped, because he was stopped, albeit by injuries. Plus other fighters reached that milestone long before Fallone did, Billy Graham retired in 1955 after 126 fights and he was never stopped (or dropped for that matter).

So I'm assuming if Fallone was given a record it was for a British fighter only and they were giving him some leeway that he was never floored and the stoppages were injury related?