margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 04:05
wilder was pretty phenomenal in winning bronze 3 years after starting boxing, although even then he turned pro with around 40 amateur fights
who was that guy butterbean ko'd in the wwe? does he count as a legit boxer too, i mean he did actually fight a pro boxer!he also beat some pro wrestlers in real boxing matches before that, i cant imagine they'd have been any worse than paul's youtuber and basketball opponents
Watch "LIVE PROFESSIONAL BOXING! - (FROM AUSTRALIA) MTK GLOBAL PRESENTS - 'A NIGHT TO REMEMBER' (FULL CARD)" on youtube, it was on ifltvs channle. 2 guys on that card were worse than bad and they were up against australian amature champs making there pro debut or 2nd fight or something.
very very ver bad fighter one fight starts at 17:40
the worst pro boxer ever starts at 1:15:13 ... (note his punch at 1:15:39 the worst punch ever thrown in pro boxing)
I would say they were both worse than nate Robinson at least, who sure had never boxed but was coordinated and fulll of fast twitch mucels... these two...
Re: Askren vs Paul
Posted: 13 Apr 2021, 05:53
by JamesPhilips
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 04:14
bart gunn, that's who i was thinking of
Butterbean could be a vicious bastard.... look at when he beat up that actor / comedian for that show.
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 10:48
I know nothing of mma. Is this guy any good?
Great wrestler, horrific striker.
Wouldn't a pro mma fighter box a lot for training? I genuinely dont know i dont follow the sport at all
They should, but he didn't really need to with his game plan, which was to just spam takedowns and hold the guy there. It worked up until a certain point. There are not many other guys who have fought in the UFC who have worse striking because most others weren't able to rely on their takedowns in the way that he had done. This is why this is such a cherry pick.
Re: Askren vs Paul
Posted: 13 Apr 2021, 19:25
by Onetimeonly
Lol, this is going to push a million buys.
Re: Askren vs Paul
Posted: 13 Apr 2021, 19:31
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 19:25
Lol, this is going to push a million buys.
Wouldn't doubt it. The man has over 22 million followers.
Wouldn't a pro mma fighter box a lot for training? I genuinely dont know i dont follow the sport at all
Some of 'em are great strikers. Some of 'em are great grapplers. Some of 'em can do a bit of both. Most are primarily good at one or the other.
Askren is a grappler.
It'd be quite embarrassing for him though being a veteran Pro fighter to lose to some YouTube clown though.
I have seen videos of Askren working on Boxing technique though and Saad is correct that his Boxing is sh*t.
Askren's kicking ability isn't great either. I'm surprised he did so well with grappling/submission alone, but he can take a punch and can get inside the other guy's head. He's much better at frisbe golf than striking or kicking. He usually finds a way to win though. At 36, win or lose, he will laugh all the way to the bank.
Re: Askren vs Paul
Posted: 14 Apr 2021, 08:34
by joshj909
Bandog wrote: ↑14 Apr 2021, 07:36
Askren's kicking ability isn't great either. I'm surprised he did so well with grappling/submission alone, but he can take a punch and can get inside the other guy's head. He's much better at frisbe golf than striking or kicking. He usually finds a way to win though. At 36, win or lose, he will laugh all the way to the bank.
Not that I rate Paul at all, but I think the only way to win that Askren will be able to find will be to make this a dirty fight. Lots of clinching, dirty boxing. Act like a leach and sap Paul's energy to take Paul into the later rounds.
Re: Askren vs Paul
Posted: 14 Apr 2021, 08:36
by emallini
2 dossers
Re: Askren vs Paul
Posted: 14 Apr 2021, 22:08
by AngryGoon38
Askren looked vastly improved,with punches, in his latest YouTube training video.
Bandog wrote: ↑14 Apr 2021, 07:36
Askren's kicking ability isn't great either. I'm surprised he did so well with grappling/submission alone, but he can take a punch and can get inside the other guy's head. He's much better at frisbe golf than striking or kicking. He usually finds a way to win though. At 36, win or lose, he will laugh all the way to the bank.
Not that I rate Paul at all, but I think the only way to win that Askren will be able to find will be to make this a dirty fight. Lots of clinching, dirty boxing. Act like a leach and sap Paul's energy to take Paul into the later rounds.
Truth be told, the whole event is kind of a joke. Neither guy is a legit professional boxer. "Are you not entertained?"
Re: Askren vs Paul
Posted: 14 Apr 2021, 22:15
by JCS
Keep hearing mentions of Wilder... surely it didn't hurt being 6'7" with a 83" reach?
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 04:05
wilder was pretty phenomenal in winning bronze 3 years after starting boxing, although even then he turned pro with around 40 amateur fights
who was that guy butterbean ko'd in the wwe? does he count as a legit boxer too, i mean he did actually fight a pro boxer!he also beat some pro wrestlers in real boxing matches before that, i cant imagine they'd have been any worse than paul's youtuber and basketball opponents
Watch "LIVE PROFESSIONAL BOXING! - (FROM AUSTRALIA) MTK GLOBAL PRESENTS - 'A NIGHT TO REMEMBER' (FULL CARD)" on youtube, it was on ifltvs channle. 2 guys on that card were worse than bad and they were up against australian amature champs making there pro debut or 2nd fight or something.
very very ver bad fighter one fight starts at 17:40
the worst pro boxer ever starts at 1:15:13 ... (note his punch at 1:15:39 the worst punch ever thrown in pro boxing)
I would say they were both worse than nate Robinson at least, who sure had never boxed but was coordinated and fulll of fast twitch mucels... these two...
oh, for sure there are some pretty terrible guys who have boxed pro, but i can still certainly understand why ppl think paul is simply a youtuber, when he came from youtube rather than being a legit am boxer/etc, when he debuted against a youtuber, and when he hasnt fought anyone with boxing experience. ....basically he beat 2 d-list celebrities who werent simply bad, but obviously had no clue in hell what they were doing and had never fought before
by the same token, i understand why ppl would think bart gunn was merely a wrestler even though he was a physical specimen and won boxing matches vs some wwf tough guys before bean splatted him.
During his open workout, he told fans watching via live stream: “Guillotine, that’s legal, right?
“Can I choke Jake? I know a lot of people wanna see that.
“One of you guys can start a GoFundMe – how much would you give me to choke Jake out with a guillotine choke?
“And if the number’s bigger than my purse, maybe I’ll do it, you never know!”
Re: Askren vs Paul
Posted: 15 Apr 2021, 06:39
by NateJR
Jake Paul has to be one of the biggest tool bags walking the earth. The obsurdety that comes out of that guys mouth is cringe as fuk. It's unbelievable to me that he has managed to gain such a following on social media.
I really hope Askren manages to humiliate that mental midget and feeds him a dose of humble pie.
