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Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 08:36
by mickey1975
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2021, 07:50
There are 4-round fighters going away to Spain for a training camp!
The game is dying fast. The skill level has fallen by the wayside.
How can you say that? We have BJS going in with Canelo in a few weeks! Easily the highest skilled super middleweight encounter any Brit has ever been involved in.
Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 08:42
by coghaugen11
With the exception of Canelo and Loma I don’t see technical ability today. The top 30 heavyweights of the 80s all stand Joshua on his head.
Saunders shouldn’t even be in the same building as Canelo.
Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 08:50
by coghaugen11
Saunders is garbage. Crap. And a vile cretin who turns casuals off the sport.
Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 09:03
by mickey1975
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2021, 08:50
Saunders is garbage. Crap. And a vile cretin who turns casuals off the sport.
Undefeated two weight world champion willing to go to America and fight the very best. We’ve never had a 12st guy like that. We were a laughing stock in the 90’s because our so called world champions didn’t want to face the best.
Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 09:30
by knockout
mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2021, 09:03
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2021, 08:50
Saunders is garbage. Crap. And a vile cretin who turns casuals off the sport.
Undefeated two weight world champion willing to go to America and fight the very best. We’ve never had a 12st guy like that. We were a laughing stock in the 90’s because our so called world champions didn’t want to face the best.
I think the truth is somewhere in the middle .
BJS has shown for several years he is comfortable doing a Eubank and fighting bums at home for the WBO Title.
We don’t know how much more money he is getting to face Canelo than he typically would get .
So without all the details it’s hard to conclude whether 1) BJS really wants to fight the best or 2) just wants the biggest possible income stream.
Does one Canelo fight = 6 future routine defences for example ?
Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 10:07
by coghaugen11
mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2021, 09:03
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2021, 08:50
Saunders is garbage. Crap. And a vile cretin who turns casuals off the sport.
Undefeated two weight world champion willing to go to America and fight the very best. We’ve never had a 12st guy like that. We were a laughing stock in the 90’s because our so called world champions didn’t want to face the best.
I’d do it in a heartbeat for 10 million dollars. Anyone would. He generally doesn’t fornicating do anything, he dosses around sniffing coke all day.
Pull your head out of your ass and stop posting weird bizarre shit.
Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 10:09
by coghaugen11
fornicate fighting at leisure centres. Give me Canelo!
Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 10:11
by coghaugen11
There’s a reason the BBC want nothing to do with boxing and the government won’t support it financially in a pandemic and that’s Billy Joe Saunders and Kugan Cassius.
It’s dying.
You’re just some boxing fanatic in a bubble who can’t see clearly.
Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 10:17
by mickey1975
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2021, 10:09
fornicate fighting at leisure centres. Give me Canelo!
I think The Staples Centre in LA and the huge arena in Montreal aren’t leisure centres!
Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 10:20
by Controversial
It's funny as boxing is the only sport I can think of where losing is such a big deal. The best players in the world at tennis, golf, F1, snooker etc all get beaten, sometimes to rank outsiders. Even in other combat sports like UFC losing isn't really made a big deal of.
Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 10:21
by mickey1975
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2021, 10:11
There’s a reason the BBC want nothing to do with boxing and the government won’t support it financially in a pandemic and that’s Billy Joe Saunders and Kugan Cassius.
It’s dying.
You’re just some boxing fanatic in a bubble who can’t see clearly.
Or someone who’s seen boxing grow and grow in my own city for ten years. The dark days of the 90’s are behind us.
As a Eubank fan/stalker/impersonator, don’t you think he wishes he got to where Billy is now? The viewing figures, purses, etc. Ok, he got a few hundred thousand on Sky but there’ll be five times what he got on ITV watching in Mexico alone!
Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 11:28
by coghaugen11
mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2021, 10:21
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2021, 10:11
There’s a reason the BBC want nothing to do with boxing and the government won’t support it financially in a pandemic and that’s Billy Joe Saunders and Kugan Cassius.
It’s dying.
You’re just some boxing fanatic in a bubble who can’t see clearly.
Or someone who’s seen boxing grow and grow in my own city for ten years. The dark days of the 90’s are behind us.
As a Eubank fan/stalker/impersonator, don’t you think he wishes he got to where Billy is now? The viewing figures, purses, etc. Ok, he got a few hundred thousand on Sky but there’ll be five times what he got on ITV watching in Mexico alone!
I’m genuinely concerned about you. Scary.
Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 11:29
by coghaugen11
Do you have mental health problems? Perhaps one of the moderators could DM you.
Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 11:32
by coghaugen11
I also have it in good authority that you do nothing all day (but hate on Chris Eubank, randomly), and could do with losing a few pounds Mick.
Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 11:33
by coghaugen11
And a hopeless, laughable boxer with no coordination. Bless.
Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 11:40
by JamesPhilips
What is this beef? I am lost!
Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 11:44
by coghaugen11
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑19 Apr 2021, 11:40
What is this beef? I am lost!
We all are mate. We can safely say he’s in a world of his own!
Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 12:29
by mickey1975
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2021, 11:32
I also have it in good authority that you do nothing all day (but hate on Chris Eubank, randomly), and could do with losing a few pounds Mick.
Terrible authority then! I’m literally the opposite of everything stated. Trying to put weight on!
Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 13:10
by margaret thatcher
you a lanky stickman then mickster?
Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 13:35
by mickey1975
Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 13:39
by mickey1975
A you a small ginger woman with a crap perm?
Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 13:40
by margaret thatcher
mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2021, 13:39
A you a small ginger woman with a crap perm?
Would it turn you on if i was
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Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 13:42
by Cyclops
mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2021, 12:29
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2021, 11:32
I also have it in good authority that you do nothing all day (but hate on Chris Eubank, randomly), and could do with losing a few pounds Mick.
Terrible authority then! I’m literally the opposite of everything stated. Trying to put weight on!
You need to walk heavier?
Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 14:24
by Noxy
It’s an interesting question. The pundits like to bandy words like undefeated around. Do we as fans care though? I know I don’t.
There are other things in boxing that are strange- the constant referral to the (almost) mythical 49-0 (who cares) and - the man who beat the man - which I find particularly weak and only seems to apply to HWs.
Re: when did losing become so stigmatized
Posted: 19 Apr 2021, 14:36
by coghaugen11