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H8Usernames wrote: ↑25 Apr 2021, 23:50 Andy Ruiz has made himself irrelevant. 18 months since his last fight and it was a loss.

Anthony Joshua isnt that relevant either and the fight vs Fury is really just a big mismatch, one where he doesn't stand a chance.

If Andy Ruiz wants to be a boxer then he better start fighting atleast twice a year. He isn't this star that he thinks he is. Nobody gives a damn about him.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Apr 2021, 04:53 The real question should be... Who should Arreola fight after Ruiz?

candyslim wrote: ↑26 Apr 2021, 04:59

H8Usernames wrote: ↑25 Apr 2021, 23:50 Andy Ruiz has made himself irrelevant. 18 months since his last fight and it was a loss.

Anthony Joshua isnt that relevant either and the fight vs Fury is really just a big mismatch, one where he doesn't stand a chance.

If Andy Ruiz wants to be a boxer then he better start fighting atleast twice a year. He isn't this star that he thinks he is. Nobody gives a damn about him.

Fury is a very good fighter but if you had to design a fighter to beat Wladimir Klitchko the specification would look very much like Fury. I believe a peak Tyson Fury beats any version of Wlad, it's a question of styles.

Boxtune wrote: ↑27 Apr 2021, 10:19

candyslim wrote: ↑26 Apr 2021, 04:59

H8Usernames wrote: ↑25 Apr 2021, 23:50 Andy Ruiz has made himself irrelevant. 18 months since his last fight and it was a loss.

Anthony Joshua isnt that relevant either and the fight vs Fury is really just a big mismatch, one where he doesn't stand a chance.

If Andy Ruiz wants to be a boxer then he better start fighting atleast twice a year. He isn't this star that he thinks he is. Nobody gives a damn about him.

Fury is a very good fighter but if you had to design a fighter to beat Wladimir Klitchko the specification would look very much like Fury. I believe a peak Tyson Fury beats any version of Wlad, it's a question of styles.

You can say all you want. Using Nandaralone in first fight and then escaping rematch with wlad doesn't help fury legacy.

And that's why neither Klitchkos, Lewis or anyone in europe give shit about fury fights.

candyslim wrote: ↑28 Apr 2021, 03:55

Boxtune wrote: ↑27 Apr 2021, 10:19

candyslim wrote: ↑26 Apr 2021, 04:59

Fury is a very good fighter but if you had to design a fighter to beat Wladimir Klitchko the specification would look very much like Fury. I believe a peak Tyson Fury beats any version of Wlad, it's a question of styles.

You can say all you want. Using Nandaralone in first fight and then escaping rematch with wlad doesn't help fury legacy.

And that's why neither Klitchkos, Lewis or anyone in europe give shit about fury fights.

Boxtune I understand your skepticism regarding Fury's drug history, but none of us know for sure who is clean. We cannot say for certain that Joshua is clean, there have been reasonable questions raised about unnatural weight gain and although he has never failed any test, a cynic might argue he can afford to pay for the best anti-detection programmes.

I hate the drug culture but that's never going away so we have to live with it. Unless you're like Miller, caught with stuff in your body that can only get there by injection, then i just ignore it. You can drive yourself nuts worrying about who is and who isn't, or you can be unfairly hating on a particular fighter (who may or may not be innocent) and adoring another who's equally or more guilty.

Fury is the best or second best heavyweight around at this moment. Even if you don't like him, you can't ignore him. Did he duck Klitschko or was he genuinely suffering mental illness? I don't think on the evidence of that fight that Fury would have any reason to doubt his ability to beat Wlad again and surely being out of the ring for two and a half years, and what he put his body through, is proof enough that his head wasn't right, only a hater would suggest otherwise.

candyslim wrote: ↑28 Apr 2021, 03:55
surely being out of the ring for two and a half years, and what he put his body through, is proof enough that his head wasn't right, only a hater would suggest otherwise.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑22 Jul 2021, 14:41 "ANDY RUIZ JACKED TRAINING; GETTING SWOLE IN CAMP WITH CANELO, RYAN GARCIA, & OSCAR VALDEZ!"9s

Wales wrote: ↑23 Jul 2021, 01:22

candyslim wrote: ↑28 Apr 2021, 03:55
surely being out of the ring for two and a half years, and what he put his body through, is proof enough that his head wasn't right, only a hater would suggest otherwise.

There are also multiple photos and videos of his excessive drinking and drug use and interviews by him and those close to him detailing the issues.

His father has said in the past that the start of Tyson falling into a dark place was not getting the recognition and adulation he deserved after beating Klitchko. He’d worked hard for 15 years to become the best and when it happened there was very little recognition. Other boxers were appearing on chat shows and being lauded yet Fury was pretty much ignored. Now, let’s have it right, U.K. television wouldn’t touch him due to his unpredictability and previous extreme views on subjects like homosexuality (he said all gays will go to hell). He’d also threatened some Well respected U.K.sports journalists who’d interviewed him - so it was no surprise the media kept him at arms length.

I think that’s why he now openly and often says he doesn’t care about legacy or what others think about him.

adislav123 wrote: ↑22 Jul 2021, 18:16

only a malignant shitbiscuit would suggest otherwise.

Impractical Poster wrote: ↑21 Apr 2021, 22:47 Jake Paul

morm wrote: ↑21 Apr 2021, 16:23 Efe Ajagba next

Post 4 Post wrote: ↑23 Jul 2021, 10:28 Ruiz Jr should target either
Wilder
Ortiz
Whyte

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑24 Jul 2021, 06:04 i mean ort is like 42, at some point he's gotta fight tough opponent that isnt deontay wilder, there was talk of that happening, what happened

candyslim wrote: ↑24 Jul 2021, 14:48 Ruiz went to New Zealand to fight Parker. He's fought Anthony Joshua twice and holds a win over him. Ortiz turned down 7 million dollars to fight Joshua which is how Ruiz got the opportunity to win the title. That was 14 times more than Ortiz had got for his best purse up until that point (first Wilder fight).

I don't think you need to worry about ARJ's cojones but apart from his title opportunities Ortiz has never faced a bona fide contender.

It beats me why you think it's Ruiz who would consider the fight too risky. Do you realize that if Ortiz fought Charles Martin he would be arguably Ortiz's best win. Definitely top three anyway and that's assuming Ortiz were to win. We can only speculate about that because Martin is one of a very long list of halfway decent heavyweights that Ortiz has never faced in his long career spent beating up journeymen.
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I believe Ortiz was already assured of a title shot with Wilder is the reason that devision was made? Regardless, Ruiz won't fight Ortiz is my guess. If Ruiz makes it padt 6 or 7 he could win, but doubt he would. Sorry I messed up the quote.