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1 judge had it wide, one close, one draw.

That's what I saw - close competitive coulda been a draw, but a bit of a travesty of Baluta won that.

baby jake i hear top fighter

really good rd 1 sunny boxing nice relaxed moving well the lot

skanksta wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021, 17:02 1 judge had it wide, one close, one draw.

That's what I saw - close competitive coulda been a draw, but a bit of a travesty of Baluta won that.

couldve been a fair draw, but a travesty if baluta got 1 more point for a win? that is one hell of a fine line!

had it a draw myself, 0 problem for me if baluta got the win, mick's good but simply not all that

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021, 19:31

skanksta wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021, 17:02 1 judge had it wide, one close, one draw.

That's what I saw - close competitive coulda been a draw, but a bit of a travesty of Baluta won that.

i dont get that at all, couldve been a fair draw but a travesty if baluta got 1 more point for a win? that is one hell of a fine line!

had it a draw myself, 0 problem for me if baluta got the win

yep it was a close fight no doubt about it baluta out worked conlan in most of the rds though a lot of the shots werent landing also he kept screaming when he charged forward , i think mick boxed ok this was his toughest fight 2 date and you could see it he got frustaed at times , but i think mick landed some good shots on baluta at times ,

brilo33 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021, 19:37

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021, 19:31

skanksta wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021, 17:02 1 judge had it wide, one close, one draw.

That's what I saw - close competitive coulda been a draw, but a bit of a travesty of Baluta won that.

i dont get that at all, couldve been a fair draw but a travesty if baluta got 1 more point for a win? that is one hell of a fine line!

had it a draw myself, 0 problem for me if baluta got the win

yep it was a close fight no doubt about it baluta out worked conlan in most of the rds though a lot of the shots werent landing also he kept screaming when he charged forward , i think mick boxed ok this was his toughest fight 2 date and you could see it he got frustaed at times , but i think mick landed some good shots on baluta at times ,

However, the fight will have done Conlan a lot of good

Paddy Barnes was nowhere near ready for the elite level when he stepped up...

Fernando Vargas was shot by the time he was about 25, 'if you're good enough you're old enough' is all well and good for sports where you aren't getting punched in the head but talented fighters can be utterly ruined if thrown in too deep too young

Wilfred Benitez?

Crease wrote: ↑01 May 2021, 13:00 Paddy Barnes was nowhere near ready for the elite level when he stepped up...

Doubt he would ever be ready for world level. Tiny and feather fisted.

high tower 1 wrote: ↑02 May 2021, 09:50Doubt he would ever be ready for world level. Tiny and feather fisted.

Agreed a lack of power was a major weakness of his. But I do think that je could have achieved more... Maybe winnjng the European title - just to have something credible to show for it...

Without the likes of a British, Euro or Commonwealth title, you have to say that he really didn't do too much as a Pro...

orbtastic wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021, 16:26 David Reid, Olympic gold medal, pro title in his 10th fight? (Ironically for the same title Davey Moore held) Pitched in with Trinidad in his 13th fight, probably career ending altough his droopy eye was causing him issues before winning the title.

I think, for Reid, they knew that they'd have to move him fast as that eye was going to limit his career.

Kenji Yonekura, rarely gets mentioned at all (other than for what the Yonekura gym did)
Didn't help that he wasn't a puncher (although he was a good amateur)
Perez twice and Becerra in his first 11 bouts is insane

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/12939

Young Hatton ,, not very good , but only a novice so should'nt be any where near a ppv show too much pressure to learn to quick .

coneye wrote: ↑02 May 2021, 16:13 Young Hatton ,, not very good , but only a novice so should'nt be any where near a ppv show too much pressure to learn to quick .

Too much money to turn down. He'd be on a ticket deal with Steve Wood if he was lucky clearing £300 a fight if he wasn't Ricky' s Son.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑02 May 2021, 16:23

coneye wrote: ↑02 May 2021, 16:13 Young Hatton ,, not very good , but only a novice so should'nt be any where near a ppv show too much pressure to learn to quick .

Too much money to turn down. He'd be on a ticket deal with Steve Wood if he was lucky clearing £300 a fight if he wasn't Ricky' s Son.

Not his fault , Obviously if its offered he'll take it , beats sitting at home , The buck stops wholly and solely with matchroom , there the ones that have the cheak to ask people to pay ppv and put him on ,,, thats why i don't buy them , simply because these shows are easy to stream , and if the stream goes , who cares ,,, Give me a ppv full of good fights with rounded profesionals ,, and i will not want to miss it , so i would buy it , just in case the stream goes

Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑30 Apr 2021, 13:28 Kwang Sun Kim seems like an obvious one

Remember this fella from the Olympics. He really hurt Paul Gonzales in their light-flyweight bout in the 1984 Games but Gonzales then copped a break when his headguard came loose and he was taken to his corner to have it sorted. After that, his head clear, Gonzales dominated the bout.
Four years later, Kim made no mistake as he punched his way to flyweight gold in Seoul.