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Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 05 May 2021, 18:27
by Boxing Prospect
margaret thatcher wrote: 05 May 2021, 18:23 although with some of those 0-1 challengers, you wonder if there's an incomplete record
Joves De La Puz is the one I'm most interested in, going 15 rounds on debut seems insane... But I've not managed to find anything to suggest it wasn't his debut. No articles or anything I could find from the Philippines.

Wouldn't be surprised is Arter had other fights though, Indonesian record keeping is notoriously poor. Likewise Domingus Siwalette may not have been a debutant either.

Lovera and Mayan I suspect are debutants.

Murakami (who fought after his debut loss) did have... Other fights albeit there's stuff surrounding them, such as not being sanctioned properly (IBF Japan fights IIRC). The Korean TV for the fight did show a graphic suggesting he had more fights than my Japanese sources suggest though.

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 05 May 2021, 18:28
by stujones
dookus wrote: 05 May 2021, 18:16 Beatable, but: Luis Santana - only man to win and defend a world title by DQ.

Also Ken Norton - only world champion never to win a world title fight
Re - Ken Norton - depends if you count WBA regular champion - Step Forward Brian Magee

And while he obviously won a world title previously - Hasim Rahman's official second reign did not have a world title win in it. Awarded the belt (WBC proper belt) and had a draw and a loss on it.

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 05 May 2021, 18:29
by Boxing Prospect
Can I include Iwao Hakamada? Longest time a boxer has been on death row...

Yoichiro Hanada - most wins to have just a single KO (maybe even most fights to have a single KO?)

Len Wickwar holds an insane amount of unbreakable records too

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 05 May 2021, 18:33
by stujones
Not sure if its a record - but Barry Jones' 1 KO in 18 fights has got to be something for a world champion. Loved watching him box mind.

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 05 May 2021, 18:34
by GreenLightning
Alex Arthur was upgraded from WBO interim to full WBO champion and lost it to Cook

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 05 May 2021, 18:39
by My T Sharp
Micky Vann reffing Ricky Hatton 8 fights in a row in ‘world’ titles fights.

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 05 May 2021, 18:40
by dookus
Rats' cocks, these new bullshit interim titles have done for my Ken Norton record!

How about Charlie Zelenoff - longest entirely fictional winning streak

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 05 May 2021, 18:44
by margaret thatcher
anyone know the record for most consecutive times two guys fought each other?

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 05 May 2021, 18:47
by Boxing Prospect
margaret thatcher wrote: 05 May 2021, 18:44 anyone know the record for most consecutive times two guys fought each other?
No idea, but we can start the count at 4
Yutaka Nakagoshi vs Noburu Kataoka.

Just to add those 4 bouts came in the space of about 6 weeks as well

Ali Raymi and Prince Maz also had 4 successive bouts (Maz has 1 bout to break the sequence, Raymi didn't so I'm including it). Their series came over 4 months

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 05 May 2021, 18:51
by margaret thatcher
damn! those dudes really love fighting each other :lol:

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 05 May 2021, 18:51
by dookus
Boxing Prospect wrote: 05 May 2021, 18:29 Can I include Iwao Hakamada? Longest time a boxer has been on death row...
Looked him up and that is one of the most harrowing stories I've ever read :neutral:

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 05 May 2021, 19:04
by GreenLightning
My T Sharp wrote: 05 May 2021, 18:39 Micky Vann reffing Ricky Hatton 8 fights in a row in ‘world’ titles fights.
Darkie Smiths interview after he bounced into the ring and pushed Vann is pretty funny, the Eamonn Magee camp raised issues with that prior to the fight too and Ian Darke called it out on commentary, he is sorely missed

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 05 May 2021, 19:12
by orbtastic
Lewis and Britton fought each other 20 times. I think five times in the trot, 3 times in a month.

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 05 May 2021, 20:47
by margaret thatcher
if the blood dont fit, you must acquit

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 06 May 2021, 04:01
by My Name Is Earl
135,000 ? paid attendance.

No stadium holds that now.

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 06 May 2021, 14:31
by SteveO
Muhammad Ali only 3 time lineal heavyweight champion.

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 06 May 2021, 14:43
by bigjack
My Name Is Earl wrote: 06 May 2021, 04:01 135,000 ? paid attendance.

No stadium holds that now.
If that's Chavez v Haugen then i remember thousands got in without tickets i think

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 06 May 2021, 15:17
by My Name Is Earl
bigjack wrote: 06 May 2021, 14:43
My Name Is Earl wrote: 06 May 2021, 04:01 135,000 ? paid attendance.

No stadium holds that now.
If that's Chavez v Haugen then i remember thousands got in without tickets i think
No doubt about it, and the tickets would have been dirt cheap up in the gods.
Still won't be beat. Never been topped even with the National side.

Decent undercard with Azumah/Ruelas and Norris/Blocker and a few other big names
with knock over jobs.

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 06 May 2021, 18:18
by My T Sharp
GreenLightning wrote: 05 May 2021, 19:04
My T Sharp wrote: 05 May 2021, 18:39 Micky Vann reffing Ricky Hatton 8 fights in a row in ‘world’ titles fights.
Darkie Smiths interview after he bounced into the ring and pushed Vann is pretty funny, the Eamonn Magee camp raised issues with that prior to the fight too and Ian Darke called it out on commentary, he is sorely missed
I assume they wanted a ref who wouldn’t stop it if Ricky got cut and would let the roughhousing go.

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 06 May 2021, 20:12
by Controversial
Ray Robinson going 73-1-1 and waiting six years from turning pro before his world title shot.

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 06 May 2021, 20:32
by KiwiRider
Hyun-Mi Choi as undefeated champ for 12 years and counting :maybe:

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 07 May 2021, 05:55
by jameswilson
Johnny Fisher - Biggest lisp in boxing.

‘Yeah I’ve had thum great thparth with Joyth and Dubois.’

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 07 May 2021, 06:10
by mickey1975
jameswilson wrote: 07 May 2021, 05:55 Johnny Fisher - Biggest lisp in boxing.

‘Yeah I’ve had thum great thparth with Joyth and Dubois.’
Worse than Eubank?

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 07 May 2021, 06:49
by Boxerbeetle
margaret thatcher wrote: 05 May 2021, 18:07 tommy burns 5'7 heavyweight champ
Of all the records listed on here, this is one I’d most love to see beaten. Imagine a 5’6 bloke ruling this era of giants :yay:

Re: Boxing records that won’t be beat

Posted: 07 May 2021, 07:09
by kevo
Ryan Rhodes - Shortest time to win a Lonsdale Belt outright