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Re: quitting in big fights

Posted: 10 May 2021, 09:55
by JamesPhilips
Coco wrote: 10 May 2021, 09:53
JamesPhilips wrote: 10 May 2021, 09:52
Coco wrote: 10 May 2021, 09:49

Benn showed what he was against McCllellan, after that he was destroyed mentally and physically and I certainly can forgive him for collecting pay days against Collins.
Yeah. But also he was incredibly brave against Eubank and quit against Watson. He’s definitely a warrior, just a bit random.
I don't think he quit against Watson, he was exhausted and done.

But how do we define quit!
Yes exactly. It’s a weird term to define in boxing.

Re: quitting in big fights

Posted: 10 May 2021, 09:56
by tonyevs
In some instances quitting is understandable. Duran `no mas` .. he did not quit through fear or pain .. but frustration.
Benn, Ali, Tyzu, and Chavez through age and a distinguishing fire inside.

Re: quitting in big fights

Posted: 10 May 2021, 09:56
by mickey1975
Coco wrote: 10 May 2021, 09:49
JamesPhilips wrote: 10 May 2021, 09:44
coghaugen11 wrote: 10 May 2021, 08:44 Collins 1 was worse. Faking an ankle injury.

Famously quit against Watson as well.
Benn could be really brave, other times he would swallow it. Complex guy.
Benn showed what he was against McCllellan, after that he was destroyed mentally and physically and I certainly can forgive him for collecting pay days against Collins.
I understand that to an extent. Didn't want to come to Yorkshire, though. Or have a "tear up" as he always says.

Re: quitting in big fights

Posted: 10 May 2021, 10:57
by ERIC GUY

Re: quitting in big fights

Posted: 10 May 2021, 11:20
by Tevfik1907
locoxelbox wrote: 09 May 2021, 01:28 Ali vs Holmes
Tszyu vs Hatton
Martinez vs Cotto
Chavez vs De La Hoya

Many of the greatest boxers ever have quit, including Ali, Robinson, Duran, Chavez, Tyson, etc.
Ali vs Holmes wasn't exactly a ''big fight'', everyone knew that Holmes was going to win that fight due to Ali coming back from retirement after 2 years and due to Ali's Parkinson illness, which could be even visibly seen at that moment before the fight. After seeing the obvious in 9 rounds, Dundee stopped the fight in the 10th round.

Post-prime 1973 Ali didn't even quit after getting his jaw broken by Ken Norton, and he completed that fight, then he won the rematch against Norton only 6 months later, so in normal circumstances, Ali wouldn't quit that fight even if he was post-prime.

Re: quitting in big fights

Posted: 10 May 2021, 11:37
by coghaugen11
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Coco wrote: 10 May 2021, 09:53
JamesPhilips wrote: 10 May 2021, 09:52
Coco wrote: 10 May 2021, 09:49

Benn showed what he was against McCllellan, after that he was destroyed mentally and physically and I certainly can forgive him for collecting pay days against Collins.
Yeah. But also he was incredibly brave against Eubank and quit against Watson. He’s definitely a warrior, just a bit random.
I don't think he quit against Watson, he was exhausted and done.

But how do we define quit!
He quit. He was fine to go on. He waited for the last second before rising up.

Re: quitting in big fights

Posted: 10 May 2021, 11:39
by margaret thatcher
a common way of trying to mask a quit , see it all the time, wait until our counted out, then spring up and complain about the stoppage

Re: quitting in big fights

Posted: 10 May 2021, 11:41
by coghaugen11
margaret thatcher wrote: 10 May 2021, 11:39 a common way of trying to mask a quit , see it all the time, wait until our counted out, then spring up and complain about the stoppage
Exactly mate. It was a belter.