Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 25 September 2021
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
Lets have it right here , make no bones about it AJ will call the shots on this one ,, he's the A side and he will get his own way ,, now if there calling for a August 21/28 th date , instead of late june maybee early to mid july ,, its because they want or need a full camp ,, which shows AJ was never really in full training for Fury , may of been just keeping fit , ticking over but not preparing for the fight , otherwise he would'nt need a full camp , and would want to catch Usyk short ,,
Thats why i no longer want to see AJ -- Fury ,,, not because the fight would'nt interest me ,, i just don't want to see them two Frauds get paid 100's of millions each ..
Fook AJ and Fury ,,, let the organisations enforce mandatorys and stop these clowns holding the division up and stopping the proper fighters from winning the belts ,,,
Thats why i no longer want to see AJ -- Fury ,,, not because the fight would'nt interest me ,, i just don't want to see them two Frauds get paid 100's of millions each ..
Fook AJ and Fury ,,, let the organisations enforce mandatorys and stop these clowns holding the division up and stopping the proper fighters from winning the belts ,,,
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margaret thatcher
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
i hope the oddsmakers are drinking tthe usyk koolaid as much as the poll voters are
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑21 May 2021, 20:55 i hope the oddsmakers are drinking tthe usyk koolaid as much as the poll voters are
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
While The Gypsy King smudges the remains of Wilder on the canvas, Usyk will outslick Joshua. The all-brit undisputed championship match falls short. However, Joshua or Joyce can earn the shot afterwards.
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Ruthless-RKO
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
WBO have now ordered this fight next.
They rejected Hearn’s extension request.
They rejected Hearn’s extension request.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
I'm into paying for this one. Maybe more than Fury/Josh.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 17:02 WBO have now ordered this fight next.
They rejected Hearn’s extension request.
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Ruthless-RKO
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
Loving the poll.oogiebe wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 17:06I'm into paying for this one. Maybe more than Fury/Josh.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 17:02 WBO have now ordered this fight next.
They rejected Hearn’s extension request.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
Yup. Really spread out on this one.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 17:08Loving the poll.oogiebe wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 17:06I'm into paying for this one. Maybe more than Fury/Josh.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 17:02 WBO have now ordered this fight next.
They rejected Hearn’s extension request.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
Usyk embarrasses Femi
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mickey1975
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
Why would Wembley be an option for this one? Eddie said its impossible.
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mickey1975
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
A mandatory on a percentage of AJ money wont be cheap.Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 18:43mickey1975 wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 18:33 Why would Wembley be an option for this one? Eddie said its impossible.
Because Joshua - Fury needs to generate huge sums of money to make the fight work. Joshua - Usyk doesn't.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
It looks fair enough. An intriguing fight. I picked Usyk by dec.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
Right . Usyk slapping to an unconvincing decision against Chisora has convinced people, for some reason.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑21 May 2021, 20:55 i hope the oddsmakers are drinking tthe usyk koolaid as much as the poll voters are
Some people on here just really hate AJ it seems.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
AJ too big and too strong like carl froch
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Twinkle Toes
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
If Joshua wins this one, he deserves more than a 50/50 split with Fury. He also climbs up to the number one heavyweight on the planet.
Fury going over old ground is hurting his standing on the heavyweight scene.
Fury going over old ground is hurting his standing on the heavyweight scene.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
Fury and AJ need each other to make crazy money.Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 18:43mickey1975 wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 18:33 Why would Wembley be an option for this one? Eddie said its impossible.
Because Joshua - Fury needs to generate huge sums of money to make the fight work. Joshua - Usyk doesn't.
Assuming the Saudis aren’t wanting to put an offer for AJ/Usyk then Wembley might be an option as even if it’s half full it will then that’s still decent money. Obviously that’s assuming no-ones offering a decent rights fee.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
OU will get stopped by joshua. People here saying AJ doesn't have the power to stop him. I beg to differ. OU just beaten chisora on pts, big step up for him against AJ imo.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
He could have finished Chisora off later on, if he wanted to, but he decided not to take a risk. That fight was one-sided as hell and misinterpreted by the biased Matchroom analysis and corrupted close scores.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
His chin is underestimated. Breidis hits harder than most heavyweights and he took plenty flush.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
Luis Ortiz: Usyk is Too Small, Anthony Joshua Should Fight Me!
Luis Ortiz (32-2) is hoping to get a big fight in the near future.
The former world title challenger was last in the ring in November when he blew out an overmatched Alexander Flores in 1 round in a Premier Boxing Champions on Fox telecast.
Ortiz has been calling out all of the big names in the heavyweight division but has had difficulty getting any of the top fighters to face him. Even at 42-years-old, the Cuban has proven to be a difficult opponent.
“I have been trying to get in the ring with Dillian Whyte but he refused to fight me so I went to the (Andy) Ruiz versus (Chris) Arreola fight and again I got a no, because Ruiz said he would need another tune-up,” Ortiz told Boxing Scene.
An arbitrator recently ruled that WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury must honor a rematch clause and fight Deontay Wilder next which has indefinitely postponed the Fury versus Anthony Joshua unification bout which was slated for August.
With Fury tied up at least until the fall, Joshua is looking to fight his WBO mandatory challenger Oleksandr Usyk next. Ortiz doesn’t believe the former unified cruiserweight champion has the size to be competitive with Joshua.
“So now that Joshua versus Fury can’t be done, I feel that me and Joshua would be an explosive fight so Eddie (Hearn), Joshua, Jay (Jimenez), Luis DeCubas Jr, (Al) Haymon - I’m here and I’m ready. Let’s try and make this happen. Why wait? You already have the date. Don’t fight Usyk, he’s too small for you. He is a cruiserweight. Give me a shot. You don’t even have to put your belts on the line,” Ortiz stated.
An offer was made for Ortiz to face Joshua in 2019. He instead opted for a rematch with Wilder while Joshua faced Ruiz and suffered his only career defeat. Both of Ortiz’s career losses have came against Wilder.
Luis Ortiz (32-2) is hoping to get a big fight in the near future.
The former world title challenger was last in the ring in November when he blew out an overmatched Alexander Flores in 1 round in a Premier Boxing Champions on Fox telecast.
Ortiz has been calling out all of the big names in the heavyweight division but has had difficulty getting any of the top fighters to face him. Even at 42-years-old, the Cuban has proven to be a difficult opponent.
“I have been trying to get in the ring with Dillian Whyte but he refused to fight me so I went to the (Andy) Ruiz versus (Chris) Arreola fight and again I got a no, because Ruiz said he would need another tune-up,” Ortiz told Boxing Scene.
An arbitrator recently ruled that WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury must honor a rematch clause and fight Deontay Wilder next which has indefinitely postponed the Fury versus Anthony Joshua unification bout which was slated for August.
With Fury tied up at least until the fall, Joshua is looking to fight his WBO mandatory challenger Oleksandr Usyk next. Ortiz doesn’t believe the former unified cruiserweight champion has the size to be competitive with Joshua.
“So now that Joshua versus Fury can’t be done, I feel that me and Joshua would be an explosive fight so Eddie (Hearn), Joshua, Jay (Jimenez), Luis DeCubas Jr, (Al) Haymon - I’m here and I’m ready. Let’s try and make this happen. Why wait? You already have the date. Don’t fight Usyk, he’s too small for you. He is a cruiserweight. Give me a shot. You don’t even have to put your belts on the line,” Ortiz stated.
An offer was made for Ortiz to face Joshua in 2019. He instead opted for a rematch with Wilder while Joshua faced Ruiz and suffered his only career defeat. Both of Ortiz’s career losses have came against Wilder.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
He didn't rematch Whyte though did he, and your man Fury has avoided Whyte like the plague. The rematch with the 20 stone midget was to get all the titles back, and Joshua won that with ease.
Meanwhile Fury is having a third fight that no one outside of the Fury fanboys and deluded Wilder fans want to see.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
No, we want AJ v 136 year old Ortiz.Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑25 May 2021, 09:57He didn't rematch Whyte though did he, and your man Fury has avoided Whyte like the plague. The rematch with the 20 stone midget was to get all the titles back, and Joshua won that with ease.
Meanwhile Fury is having a third fight that no one outside of the Fury fanboys and deluded Wilder fans want to see.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
I am not certain that Usyk could defeat a 40 year old Pulev. He should be a VERY big udog v AJ.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
josh hadnt beaten ruiz before, fury-wilder 2 is comparable to that and was the natural fight, but the 3rd doesnt really seem necessary other than for legalitiesAllas wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 09:04AJ went over old ground with a 20 stone midget and tried rematching Whyte.Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 08:57 If Joshua wins this one, he deserves more than a 50/50 split with Fury. He also climbs up to the number one heavyweight on the planet.
Fury going over old ground is hurting his standing on the heavyweight scene.
if aj-ruiz 3 were made right now i wouldnt really be into it either, just other stuff out there
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 21/28 August 2021?
Have a terrible feeling AJ is going to duck usyk. Eddie should be hyping that fight now, instead he is talking about other options.
He seemed to be keen on Ruiz 3, and then mildly interested in Ortiz or whyte. These are 3 acceptable fights when nothing is happening, but dropping a belt vs a worthy contender.
He also kinda mentioned Mabey just waiting and fighting fury late in the year, bit rich to come out and say fury’s team never wanted it they just ducked us around, and then put all your eggs in that basket again...
Right now avoiding usyk andgiving up the chance of undisputed down the line is a duck so let’s hope AJ and Eddie arnt too scared and it’s just a negotiating tactic.
He seemed to be keen on Ruiz 3, and then mildly interested in Ortiz or whyte. These are 3 acceptable fights when nothing is happening, but dropping a belt vs a worthy contender.
He also kinda mentioned Mabey just waiting and fighting fury late in the year, bit rich to come out and say fury’s team never wanted it they just ducked us around, and then put all your eggs in that basket again...
Right now avoiding usyk andgiving up the chance of undisputed down the line is a duck so let’s hope AJ and Eddie arnt too scared and it’s just a negotiating tactic.