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MightyWarrior wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 03:28 the very best you say, yet acknowledge he’s been using peds for years ...

Is that at me? Cause I never acknowledged that, but I do think that to take a 2 year break, at 42+ he will need somthing to beat a guy who’s natural weight is probably 4+ classes above manny’s.

Do I suspect manny has done peds, yes. Do I suspect canelo, Floyd, Aj, Fury, whyte, mike Tyson, Roy Jones jr, POV, Holyfield? Also yes.

handsofstone wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 03:46 He looked great against Thurman but there was no testing, the cynic in me assumes that there wont be any here either

I hope not or Manny has no chance.

Rooting for the old warrior, but obviously he's not gonna make it.

How the hell is there no PED testing ?

Does anyone know if Manny has ever been tested for PEDS ?

Hopefully this sets up the winner vs Crawford. Whilst I think most see Spence and Crawford as the top two - I guess given the fact Manny beat the once very highly thought of Thurnman would still leave that slight lingering question mark after any Spence vs Crawford fight.

Manny is the Don. He will throw down with anyone it seems, always been that way as well. An ATG for me.

For the good of boxing we need Spence to dismantle him.

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 20:45 For the good of boxing we need Spence to dismantle him.

Whilst I know what you are saying, I disagree. Even if Pacquiao loses - his next fight will do bigger numbers than Spence..... if somehow he beats Spence - then a fight with Crawford will not only capture the casual fans, but even the true fans might think "well this is 1 vs 2" -

Don't think Spence will get a following even if he smashes Pacquaio. Pac man will state he's been inactive and that will still see him being the bigger star of the 3 champions in the division.

stujones wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 21:10

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 20:45 For the good of boxing we need Spence to dismantle him.

Whilst I know what you are saying, I disagree. Even if Pacquiao loses - his next fight will do bigger numbers than Spence..... if somehow he beats Spence - then a fight with Crawford will not only capture the casual fans, but even the true fans might think "well this is 1 vs 2" -

Don't think Spence will get a following even if he smashes Pacquaio. Pac man will state he's been inactive and that will still see him being the bigger star of the 3 champions in the division.

Can’t argue with your logic in terms of short term popularity but a 42 yr old years past his best semi retired part time politician beating a supposedly prime superstar like Spence could open a can of worms. Will it open the door to ridiculous comebacks by Floyd and Oscar and does it make more likely a merging in the public’s consciousness of serious boxing and you tube celeb boxing.

Manny is as close an ATG than anyone in the sport regardless of this fight.

Bet there is a sneaky feeling that most of us will want him to win but knowing that his chances are slim....Damn we love an underdog.

terrible fight

Fearful_Freddie wrote: ↑21 May 2021, 18:19 Love Manny and hope he can somehow pull this off. However, the big question is can a certain poster now turn this discussion to Eubank Snr?

has spence fought since that crash? Forgive me, i don't really follow the sport anymore

Steveh583 wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 07:51 has spence fought since that crash? Forgive me, i don't really follow the sport anymore

Yes. Garcia I think and looked good.

a lot of ppl thought he didnt look good but tbh he looked his usual self to me

a lot of ppl thought he didnt look good but tbh i thought he looked fine, the only real criticism id have is that he seemed to fade a bit

Long term PED use is often about tolerance. It comes down to genetics in the sense both the actual improvement gained, and also the underrated factor of whether your body can take long term abuse. Poor tolerance of drugs would show in a variety of features, from hair loss to changes in the structure of heart and kidneys. I’d suggest it’s probably fairly obvious that Pacquiao gets both an over average performance boost, and also can tolerate the long term exposure to prosper as he does in his early 40’s.