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oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:04

magnus wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:01 Without the benefit of hindsight, Lewis' mullerings of Ruddock, Golota and Grant were pretty special at the time.

Plenty picked his opponents in those fights.

Lewis is way under appreciated. My fav HW of all time.

Think what he’d do with these jokers today.

Different kettle of fish entirely.

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:14

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:04

magnus wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:01 Without the benefit of hindsight, Lewis' mullerings of Ruddock, Golota and Grant were pretty special at the time.

Plenty picked his opponents in those fights.

Lewis is way under appreciated. My fav HW of all time.

Think what he’d do with these jokers today.

Different kettle of fish entirely.

He'd rule as long as he wanted to.

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:18

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:04

magnus wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:01 Without the benefit of hindsight, Lewis' mullerings of Ruddock, Golota and Grant were pretty special at the time.

Plenty picked his opponents in those fights.

Lewis is way under appreciated. My fav HW of all time.

I'd say Tua was a better scalp than Grant. Lennox was on his best behavior against Tua.

Yeah, but at the time, there was a lot of hype over Grant. Can't remember anyone really thinking Tua had a chance.

Grant was supposed to be the next big thing.

6ft7 or Sumik.

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:24 Grant was supposed to be the next big thing.

6ft7 or Sumik.

Exactly right. Then the big oaf comes out right after LL. Sent to queersville.

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:27

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:21

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:18

I'd say Tua was a better scalp than Grant. Lennox was on his best behavior against Tua.

Yeah, but at the time, there was a lot of hype over Grant. Can't remember anyone really thinking Tua had a chance.

Grant had been knocked down a few times before the Lewis fight. I only ever saw that one as a massacre. Lewis and Manny Stewart thought Tua was dangerous, because Lennox was in great shape, motivated and disciplined.

No doubt Tua historically was the bigger win, but as the previous poster stated, "without hindsight...."

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:27

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:21

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:18

I'd say Tua was a better scalp than Grant. Lennox was on his best behavior against Tua.

Yeah, but at the time, there was a lot of hype over Grant. Can't remember anyone really thinking Tua had a chance.

Grant had been knocked down a few times before the Lewis fight. I only ever saw that one as a massacre. Lewis and Manny Stewart thought Tua was dangerous, because Lennox was in great shape, motivated and disciplined.

Yeah, Eubank Sr lended Lewis and Steward his custom-made small punch bag to help sharpen his jab for Tua. Chris was on the phone constantly before that one.

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:30

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:27

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:21
Yeah, but at the time, there was a lot of hype over Grant. Can't remember anyone really thinking Tua had a chance.

Grant had been knocked down a few times before the Lewis fight. I only ever saw that one as a massacre. Lewis and Manny Stewart thought Tua was dangerous, because Lennox was in great shape, motivated and disciplined.

Yeah, Eubank Sr lended Lewis and Steward his custom-made small punch bag to help sharpen his jab for Tua. Chris was on the phone constantly before that one.

Didn't know that.

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:31

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:29

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:27

Grant had been knocked down a few times before the Lewis fight. I only ever saw that one as a massacre. Lewis and Manny Stewart thought Tua was dangerous, because Lennox was in great shape, motivated and disciplined.

No doubt Tua historically was the bigger win, but as the previous poster stated, "without hindsight...."

At the time it was a bigger win IMO. Grant looked very limited in the Golota fight.

Fair enough, but I still remember the crazy hype going into the Grant fight. Not the same with Tua. I was more hyped AT THE TIME for Grant. It was obvious afterwards he was a fraud.

The Sun were good at that.

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:40

oogiebe wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:33

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 16:31

At the time it was a bigger win IMO. Grant looked very limited in the Golota fight.

Fair enough, but I still remember the crazy hype going into the Grant fight. Not the same with Tua. I was more hyped AT THE TIME for Grant. It was obvious afterwards he was a fraud.

He was American and very much looked the part.

He did look like crap vs Golota though. Got lucky the Pole quit.

imagine watching grant-golota and then thinking that lewis was in serious danger

obviously a media job was done hard on that one

Liston Like Jab wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:57

coghaugen11 wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 15:52 Eubank - Benn 1, Watson 2, Rocky in Germany.

fornicate.

Good call, I don't think he gets enough credit for the Rocky fight.

I remember Steve Bunce of The Observer in his near ringside seat literally too stubborn or weak to watch Eubank go through his moves at times looking the bollocks. He couldn’t handle it.

Bruno: Bugner, Cummings and Gardner

Freddie Welsh - Leonard, Wolgast, Driscoll

Owen Moran - Wolgast, Nelson, Murphy / Baldwin

Jim Driscoll - Attell, Baldwin, Dixon

Bob Fitzsimmons - Corbett, Dempsey, Sharkey

Moran is easily one of the top 2-3 Brits ever.

Battling Nelson was/is one of the greats

Carl Thompson : rocheggiano (away) Haye Eubank

Khan - MAB, Judah, Maidana

Foggy wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 17:58 Khan - MAB, Judah, Maidana

MAB was his best name but well gone, much smaller and he had a horrendous cut early but they wouldn't stop it until 4 rounds were gone so they could get the TD

Coco wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 18:33

Foggy wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 17:58 Khan - MAB, Judah, Maidana

MAB was his best name but well gone, much smaller and he had a horrendous cut early but they wouldn't stop it until 4 rounds were gone so they could get the TD

Coco wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 18:33

Foggy wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 17:58 Khan - MAB, Judah, Maidana

MAB was his best name but well gone, much smaller and he had a horrendous cut early but they wouldn't stop it until 4 rounds were gone so they could get the TD

I’d probably make Devon Alexander his third best win. Really good performance.

Maurice Hope.....Antuofermo, Mattioli, both in their backyards for the EBU and the World Title.

Third was a SD draw(shafted) to a German? away again, so taking liberties with this thread.

My Name Is Earl wrote: ↑24 May 2021, 02:49 Maurice Hope.....Antuofermo, Mattioli, both in their backyards for the EBU and the World Title.

Third was a SD draw(shafted) to a German? away again, so taking liberties with this thread.

Eckhard Dagge scored a huge upset to win the WBC light-middleweight title from Elisha Obed in 1976 but spent the rest of his life celebrating his unlikely victory. He looked lucky to get the nod over ancient Emile Griffith in his first defence and then came his 15-round draw with Mo Hope. His luck ran out when Rocky Mattioli smashed him in five rounds but by that stage Dagge was a chronic alcoholic.