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Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 25 May 2021, 15:18
by coghaugen11
Coco wrote: 25 May 2021, 10:30 Who can say that Lomo and Usyk aren't as skilled as the Americans
It’s interesting. Crawford can do the lot. Spence and Porter are very, very good and they’re all in just one weight.

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 25 May 2021, 15:19
by coghaugen11
Then you have Tank Davis, Devin Haney and the new kid Spencer Fearon raves about.

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 25 May 2021, 15:21
by margaret thatcher
who's the new kid

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 25 May 2021, 15:21
by coghaugen11
margaret thatcher wrote: 25 May 2021, 15:21 who's the new kid
Dreads

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 25 May 2021, 15:21
by coghaugen11
They’re all in Vegas....... not Doncaster

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 25 May 2021, 15:22
by margaret thatcher
lots of these dudes got dreads, any names my man


seems to be that afro american skill :oo

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 25 May 2021, 15:26
by coghaugen11
Keyshawn Davis

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 02 Jun 2021, 18:41
by coghaugen11
Kostya Tszyu was quite straight legged.

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 05 Jun 2021, 08:07
by coghaugen11
Rotherham.

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 05 Jun 2021, 10:00
by JamesPhilips
I bet English lies in his bed at night, wondering what vaguely controversial long winded waffle he can churn out in the morning to get his boat race and name in the papers / web the next day.

He’s really become a crashing bore.

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 05 Jun 2021, 10:09
by coghaugen11
JamesPhilips wrote: 05 Jun 2021, 10:00 I bet English lies in his bed at night, wondering what vaguely controversial long winded waffle he can churn out in the morning to get his boat race and name in the papers / web the next day.

He’s really become a crashing bore.
He keeps himself to himself. Refused all media approaches at Jr’s last fight.

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 05 Jun 2021, 10:09
by coghaugen11
On reflection in lockdown he sees the media as satanic.

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 05 Jun 2021, 13:48
by JamesPhilips
coghaugen11 wrote: 05 Jun 2021, 10:09
JamesPhilips wrote: 05 Jun 2021, 10:00 I bet English lies in his bed at night, wondering what vaguely controversial long winded waffle he can churn out in the morning to get his boat race and name in the papers / web the next day.

He’s really become a crashing bore.
He keeps himself to himself. Refused all media approaches at Jr’s last fight.
Because its part of his diva attitude and control of his statements I would suggest.

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 05 Jun 2021, 13:59
by mickey1975
JamesPhilips wrote: 05 Jun 2021, 13:48
coghaugen11 wrote: 05 Jun 2021, 10:09
JamesPhilips wrote: 05 Jun 2021, 10:00 I bet English lies in his bed at night, wondering what vaguely controversial long winded waffle he can churn out in the morning to get his boat race and name in the papers / web the next day.

He’s really become a crashing bore.
He keeps himself to himself. Refused all media approaches at Jr’s last fight.
Because its part of his diva attitude and control of his statements I would suggest.
I think after watching jr against Morrison, even Chris wouldn't have called out GGG, Canelo, Charlo or even Liam Williams! He really would be sectioned.

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 05 Jun 2021, 14:20
by coghaugen11
mickey1975 wrote: 05 Jun 2021, 13:59
JamesPhilips wrote: 05 Jun 2021, 13:48
coghaugen11 wrote: 05 Jun 2021, 10:09

He keeps himself to himself. Refused all media approaches at Jr’s last fight.
Because its part of his diva attitude and control of his statements I would suggest.
I think after watching jr against Morrison, even Chris wouldn't have called out GGG, Canelo, Charlo or even Liam Williams! He really would be sectioned.
He’d been out three years and could’ve blasted the kid out in two rounds but had to take it easy because he needed the rounds.

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 05 Jun 2021, 15:15
by mickey1975
coghaugen11 wrote: 05 Jun 2021, 14:20
mickey1975 wrote: 05 Jun 2021, 13:59
JamesPhilips wrote: 05 Jun 2021, 13:48

Because its part of his diva attitude and control of his statements I would suggest.
I think after watching jr against Morrison, even Chris wouldn't have called out GGG, Canelo, Charlo or even Liam Williams! He really would be sectioned.
He’d been out three years and could’ve blasted the kid out in two rounds but had to take it easy because he needed the rounds.
He couldn't. He's not very powerful. He was very lucky against Kobarov.

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 05 Jun 2021, 15:37
by coghaugen11
Try telling George Groves he’s not very powerful. Groves had 35lb on him and any of the few times Jr launched in (when not just standing there) GG was on the ropes.

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 05 Jun 2021, 16:08
by mickey1975
coghaugen11 wrote: 05 Jun 2021, 15:37 Try telling George Groves he’s not very powerful. Groves had 35lb on him and any of the few times Jr launched in (when not just standing there) GG was on the ropes.
I'm not getting into it with you. I had enough last time. A guy I know boxed him and said he can't punch at all. That'll do me.

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 05 Jun 2021, 16:14
by coghaugen11
Bla bla

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 05 Jun 2021, 17:31
by margaret thatcher
tbf, i notice that east europeans in general seem to have a bit more rigidity in their approach and less adaptivness than usa/uk fighters. when things go wrong they dont deal with it as well......it's like they have a book on how to box properly, and wont veer from that approach no matter

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 06 Jun 2021, 02:50
by keirw
coghaugen11 wrote: 05 Jun 2021, 15:37 Try telling George Groves he’s not very powerful. Groves had 35lb on him and any of the few times Jr launched in (when not just standing there) GG was on the ropes.
Not sure what fight you were watching. Junior barely made a dent in Groves, who wasn't exactly renowned for his iron chin.

The only time Groves looked in trouble was in the final round after his shoulder went, unlike Junior, who was lucky not to have several knockdowns against him.

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 06 Jun 2021, 03:00
by keirw
margaret thatcher wrote: 05 Jun 2021, 17:31 tbf, i notice that east europeans in general seem to have a bit more rigidity in their approach and less adaptivness than usa/uk fighters. when things go wrong they dont deal with it as well......it's like they have a book on how to box properly, and wont veer from that approach no matter
UK fighters used to be considered upright and stiff by our friends over the pond, it is only in recent years that perception has shifted somewhat.

There have still been plenty of upright british boxers over the years though, the fact is for every Haye we produce there was a Maccrinelli, for every Fury a Joshua, for every Calzaghe a Froch, and so forth...

Not that the upright fighters are not without their own strengths.

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 06 Jun 2021, 09:30
by coghaugen11
keirw wrote: 06 Jun 2021, 02:50
coghaugen11 wrote: 05 Jun 2021, 15:37 Try telling George Groves he’s not very powerful. Groves had 35lb on him and any of the few times Jr launched in (when not just standing there) GG was on the ropes.
Not sure what fight you were watching. Junior barely made a dent in Groves, who wasn't exactly renowned for his iron chin.

The only time Groves looked in trouble was in the final round after his shoulder went, unlike Junior, who was lucky not to have several knockdowns against him.
Not saying he’s a knockout puncher or knows how to place or set up. But he’s clearly very powerful, as was confirmed in that fight. Re-read.

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 06 Jun 2021, 09:31
by coghaugen11
keirw wrote: 06 Jun 2021, 03:00
margaret thatcher wrote: 05 Jun 2021, 17:31 tbf, i notice that east europeans in general seem to have a bit more rigidity in their approach and less adaptivness than usa/uk fighters. when things go wrong they dont deal with it as well......it's like they have a book on how to box properly, and wont veer from that approach no matter
UK fighters used to be considered upright and stiff by our friends over the pond, it is only in recent years that perception has shifted somewhat.

There have still been plenty of upright british boxers over the years though, the fact is for every Haye we produce there was a Maccrinelli, for every Fury a Joshua, for every Calzaghe a Froch, and so forth...

Not that the upright fighters are not without their own strengths.
Nigel Benn dispelled that in dramatic fashion.

Re: Sr: Russians not as skilled as Americans

Posted: 06 Jun 2021, 09:38
by mickey1975
coghaugen11 wrote: 06 Jun 2021, 09:31
keirw wrote: 06 Jun 2021, 03:00
margaret thatcher wrote: 05 Jun 2021, 17:31 tbf, i notice that east europeans in general seem to have a bit more rigidity in their approach and less adaptivness than usa/uk fighters. when things go wrong they dont deal with it as well......it's like they have a book on how to box properly, and wont veer from that approach no matter
UK fighters used to be considered upright and stiff by our friends over the pond, it is only in recent years that perception has shifted somewhat.

There have still been plenty of upright british boxers over the years though, the fact is for every Haye we produce there was a Maccrinelli, for every Fury a Joshua, for every Calzaghe a Froch, and so forth...

Not that the upright fighters are not without their own strengths.
Nigel Benn dispelled that in dramatic fashion.
Honeyghan did first at a much, much higher level.