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Re: Justis Huni vs Paul Gallen

Posted: 25 Jun 2021, 19:14
by gregregegg
coneye wrote: 23 Jun 2021, 06:47
Beltane wrote: 23 Jun 2021, 00:28 Gallen's Nostradamus quip that he would force Huni out of the Olympics with a broken arm has come true.

Today it has been reported that the Heavyweight gold medal hope, Justis Huni will miss the Tokyo Olympics after injuring his hand in last week’s win over Paul Gallen.

The injury is believed to have occurred in the opening round and could see the 22-year-old out of the ring for five months.
I said it to someone before the fight , that it was absolutly stupid to take that fight , he would probably get head butted , suffer a cut or something and ruin his chances at a Olympic medal ,,, seems i was proven correct OR and it is a possibility , if like me you see conspiracy theores and little yellow men under every bed , , well its possible after his performance against a 39 year old rugby player who only boxes has a second sport he took up late in life , that now they relize he just might get his ass handed to him at the Olympics and the end result is he will not draw ppv money in Aust .

So go the Conor Benn route , don't challenge for titles against someone who will hit back and defend it , just go fight 4 times a year , against older seen better days guys
He has done well as an amature, and would of been odds on to medal. and even if you lose in the ams you can just blaim the shitty amature style of boxing...
Seems rich that your accusing him of trying to take easy fights when he has arguably the one of the best first 5 fights of any recent pro heayweights, especialy for a very young heavyweight (yoka had a better first 5, hrgovic mabey but i dont think so, both of them were 4 or so years older and olympic medalists turning pro...).

Re: Justis Huni vs Paul Gallen

Posted: 25 Jun 2021, 23:49
by convict
Its a real shame Huni got injured, i was looking forward to watching him at the Olympics.

Re: Justis Huni vs Paul Gallen

Posted: 26 Jun 2021, 10:51
by coneye
gregregegg wrote: 25 Jun 2021, 19:14
coneye wrote: 23 Jun 2021, 06:47
Beltane wrote: 23 Jun 2021, 00:28 Gallen's Nostradamus quip that he would force Huni out of the Olympics with a broken arm has come true.

Today it has been reported that the Heavyweight gold medal hope, Justis Huni will miss the Tokyo Olympics after injuring his hand in last week’s win over Paul Gallen.

The injury is believed to have occurred in the opening round and could see the 22-year-old out of the ring for five months.
I said it to someone before the fight , that it was absolutly stupid to take that fight , he would probably get head butted , suffer a cut or something and ruin his chances at a Olympic medal ,,, seems i was proven correct OR and it is a possibility , if like me you see conspiracy theores and little yellow men under every bed , , well its possible after his performance against a 39 year old rugby player who only boxes has a second sport he took up late in life , that now they relize he just might get his ass handed to him at the Olympics and the end result is he will not draw ppv money in Aust .

So go the Conor Benn route , don't challenge for titles against someone who will hit back and defend it , just go fight 4 times a year , against older seen better days guys
He has done well as an amature, and would of been odds on to medal. and even if you lose in the ams you can just blaim the shitty amature style of boxing...
Seems rich that your accusing him of trying to take easy fights when he has arguably the one of the best first 5 fights of any recent pro heayweights, especialy for a very young heavyweight (yoka had a better first 5, hrgovic mabey but i dont think so, both of them were 4 or so years older and olympic medalists turning pro...).
Firstly i m not accusing him of anything ,But what i am saying is just prior to olympics it was silly fighting Gallon ,, wether he would of won a medal we will never know, but he was Australias best chance in years ,, so risking an injury against Gallon was silly,,, he had a good ameteur style and thats why he was impressive in the ameteurs and a chance of a medal ,,, but coming out to fight in the pro,s has,nt done him any favors has it, he went 10 rnds with a 39 year old rugby player,,, now he,s injured so was i correct or wrong saying it was silly his medal chances are gone along with the MASSIVE amount of money he would of made if he won gold ,,,, So what does he do now first get jhis injuries fixed , then what , he can go overseas and try to be a better pro because going 10 rnds with Gallon does,nt say a lot ,, or he can stay in Oz , try to be an Oz star and a ppv boxer ala Mundine ,, Green and even Gallon ,
Wether or not his first five fights wlere easy or hard in your or my view is irreLEVENT with his ameteur experience , and coming straight into the pro,s being a top 10 ameteur in the world he shouls always be beating the guys he fought,,, to me he was never gonna lose any of them fights he was just to good , but what the problem was always going to be was training to fight pro,s over 8 or 10 rnds was never gonna be good prep for fighting 3 rnds in ameteur boxing , besides other stuff the risk of getting injured was always there and too big a risk , And i believe he,s now injured is,nt he, has,nt he got injured hands , why could it be a result ohf him changing his style trying to sit on punches and hit harder i dont know you tell me ,,, Tell me whats your view on him taking these pro fights , because now he,s out of the olympics, and not excatly setting the world on fire in the pro,s , like i said 10 rnds to take catre of a 39 year old rugby player with what no ameteur experience and only a handful of pro fights against very limited opponents , I wish him luck but the olympic dream has gone and with it the big money a medal would of got him

Re: Justis Huni vs Paul Gallen

Posted: 26 Jun 2021, 11:54
by gregregegg
coneye wrote: 26 Jun 2021, 10:51
gregregegg wrote: 25 Jun 2021, 19:14
coneye wrote: 23 Jun 2021, 06:47

I said it to someone before the fight , that it was absolutly stupid to take that fight , he would probably get head butted , suffer a cut or something and ruin his chances at a Olympic medal ,,, seems i was proven correct OR and it is a possibility , if like me you see conspiracy theores and little yellow men under every bed , , well its possible after his performance against a 39 year old rugby player who only boxes has a second sport he took up late in life , that now they relize he just might get his ass handed to him at the Olympics and the end result is he will not draw ppv money in Aust .

So go the Conor Benn route , don't challenge for titles against someone who will hit back and defend it , just go fight 4 times a year , against older seen better days guys
He has done well as an amature, and would of been odds on to medal. and even if you lose in the ams you can just blaim the shitty amature style of boxing...
Seems rich that your accusing him of trying to take easy fights when he has arguably the one of the best first 5 fights of any recent pro heayweights, especialy for a very young heavyweight (yoka had a better first 5, hrgovic mabey but i dont think so, both of them were 4 or so years older and olympic medalists turning pro...).
Firstly i m not accusing him of anything ,But what i am saying is just prior to olympics it was silly fighting Gallon ,, wether he would of won a medal we will never know, but he was Australias best chance in years ,, so risking an injury against Gallon was silly,,, he had a good ameteur style and thats why he was impressive in the ameteurs and a chance of a medal ,,, but coming out to fight in the pro,s has,nt done him any favors has it, he went 10 rnds with a 39 year old rugby player,,, now he,s injured so was i correct or wrong saying it was silly his medal chances are gone along with the MASSIVE amount of money he would of made if he won gold ,,,, So what does he do now first get jhis injuries fixed , then what , he can go overseas and try to be a better pro because going 10 rnds with Gallon does,nt say a lot ,, or he can stay in Oz , try to be an Oz star and a ppv boxer ala Mundine ,, Green and even Gallon ,
Wether or not his first five fights wlere easy or hard in your or my view is irreLEVENT with his ameteur experience , and coming straight into the pro,s being a top 10 ameteur in the world he shouls always be beating the guys he fought,,, to me he was never gonna lose any of them fights he was just to good , but what the problem was always going to be was training to fight pro,s over 8 or 10 rnds was never gonna be good prep for fighting 3 rnds in ameteur boxing , besides other stuff the risk of getting injured was always there and too big a risk , And i believe he,s now injured is,nt he, has,nt he got injured hands , why could it be a result ohf him changing his style trying to sit on punches and hit harder i dont know you tell me ,,, Tell me whats your view on him taking these pro fights , because now he,s out of the olympics, and not excatly setting the world on fire in the pro,s , like i said 10 rnds to take catre of a 39 year old rugby player with what no ameteur experience and only a handful of pro fights against very limited opponents , I wish him luck but the olympic dream has gone and with it the big money a medal would of got him
Well they said they turned pro because they were struggling to get sparring with the pandemic. Dunno if that’s true or not though. Hindsite olympics probably would of been best, but he originally got hurt sparring so who knows could of injured himself training for olympics with no pro intentions anyway. we will never know. One thing I will say is he has made some real money, and got himself a name in aus. That gallen fight is probably more exposure to protein risk aus ppv buyers than the olympics would of been (unless he won gold).

Huni needs to come back from these sore hands and fight domestic a bit longer I think, defend the aus belt 5 or so times just working down the list, All just boosting his aus name even more. Basicaly he should clear all the top aus heavies, Lucus brown so he can say he has beat an ex world champ.
Mabey gallen again if gallen can get another win back. Sonny bill if he can get another win this year ect. That would be my 2022 goals, clear aus domestic scene, build a home profile, fight Dempsey, mabey FA, then try head to the USA for some fights some time 2023 (I prefer uk, but usa makes sense because they can be a Sunday arvo ppv in aus)

It was always a risk, and admittedly I thought it was silly going into it . But he was making more than established contenders often make, and bashing gallen is crazy publicity so who can blaim him.

Re: Justis Huni vs Paul Gallen

Posted: 26 Jun 2021, 21:13
by coneye
Without doubt bashing Gallen gave him a profile in Oz , but tnhat would of been there after the Olympics anyway,,, You do have to feel for them its hard in Aust , very few good sparring partners to be had, he,s too good for the domestic scene ,and probably not good enough or ready enough for the international scene, So it really does leave them with some big discisions , , move overseas , learn the trade in a place thats got lots of big boys The Uk or the states, or stay in Oz fighting tin cans and rugby players on ppv , if he can align himself to the public ,, liken it to a previous era ,,, go and be a Robbie Pedan , or stay home and be a Shannon Taylor

Re: Justis Huni vs Paul Gallen

Posted: 28 Jun 2021, 21:34
by margaret thatcher
he looks pretty good and was a world class am, doubt there's many gyms in the world where he'd be out of his depth just sparring

but he's gonna need more of a challenge eventually, he's beating these guys so easily that i think he gets a bit sloppy and complacent at times wailing on them. but watch him vs top am competiton who is better than anyone who he's fought as a pro.....he looks sharper and is more tuned on

Re: Justis Huni vs Paul Gallen

Posted: 29 Jun 2021, 03:25
by coneye
margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Jun 2021, 21:34 he looks pretty good and was a world class am, doubt there's many gyms in the world where he'd be out of his depth just sparring

but he's gonna need more of a challenge eventually, he's beating these guys so easily that i think he gets a bit sloppy and complacent at times wailing on them. but watch him vs top am competiton who is better than anyone who he's fought as a pro.....he looks sharper and is more tuned on

Agreed ,,, Its a real big discision for him and his management , his speed has set him apart from others in the ameteurs ,, In the pro's slowing down hitting harder just might and might not do it for him ,, and i can't see it working unless he moves to where the top sparring is , So its gonna be make your mind up time for him real soon ,,Move and try to become a genuine world champ in a few years , ,,, Or stay home and try to be a big fish in a small pond fighting islanders and trying to sell it on Aussie ppv ... I think maybee Dazn will have some clout if they sign him has part of there world thingy they claim they want

Re: Justis Huni vs Paul Gallen

Posted: 30 Jun 2021, 04:04
by Beltane
Adrian Proszenko wrote the below today in the SMH about Huni's lament, which raises a number of questions about his camp's rush for gold and glory at the expense of their fighter. Duty of care seems to have come second.

The winner in the end was Gallen who jogged off into the distance with his big pot of gold back to the corporate fight world for easy pickings.
Justis Huni could return to the ring in October after receiving a better-than-expected diagnosis on his injured hands as the Australian heavyweight champion reflects on the “rollercoaster” ride that was crushing Paul Gallen and his Olympic dream in the process.

There were fears that Huni wouldn’t be able to punch in the gym again for up to six months, although that timeframe could be cut in half after a positive meeting with a specialist on Tuesday. There was even a glimmer of hope that Huni could have recovered in time to test his fists at the Tokyo Games, but the 22-year-old conceded: “I’d just be going over there to get the tracksuit and that’s not what it’s about.”

Huni injured both hands sparring against Semisi Kalu and then punched through the pain in his victory against Christian Tsoye, giving him only three weeks to recover for the Gallen fight. His left hand was needled for the clash with the former footballer, but then he aggravated a sagittal band rupture - an injury often referred to as “boxer’s knuckle” - in the first round.

If he had his time again, Huni conceded he “wouldn’t have taken the fights so close together”, but said there was always an inherent risk when seeking the balance between cramming in too many rounds and being underdone for the Olympics.

Re: Justis Huni vs Paul Gallen

Posted: 16 Jul 2021, 00:53
by Beltane
The fall out from the Gallen/Huni fight has made the road back even longer for the Australian heavyweight champion Justis Huni than expected.

Huni had surgery on the right hand he’d hurt prior to his fight against Paul Gallen, which was exacerbated when he punched Gallen’s elbow in his 10th-round stoppage win last month.

The surgery forced Huni to pull out of the Tokyo Olympics but it was thought he could return to the ring by October. However, on Thursday it emerged Huni would likely be out of action for up to seven months, ruling him out for 2021.

Meanwhile, the loss to Huni hasn’t dented Gallen’s desire to continue in the ring. Rumour has it he’s already in talks for another fight in three months’ time.

Re: Justis Huni vs Paul Gallen

Posted: 22 Jul 2021, 07:30
by gregregegg
Gallen vs sonny bill when covid is done is a legit stadium filler. They both just need to find some easy touches and wait for crowds to be back.

Re: Justis Huni vs Paul Gallen

Posted: 27 Aug 2021, 09:33
by Marlin
I don’t want to see Gallen fight Sonny Bill, I think he’s shown he is a level above that but if that what brings the most money then that is the fight that will happen...