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Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 28 May 2021, 16:08
by high tower 1
Have to go with Taylor here. Hatton struggled at the top level whereas Taylor has come out on top every time. Too sharp for Hatton

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 28 May 2021, 16:25
by TheGman
I think Hatton would of been on him like an octopus and been too much

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 28 May 2021, 16:59
by NoScoutingReports
Delta Jay wrote: 28 May 2021, 14:52 I’d pay good money to see it like!
x2, good arguments for both fighters.

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 28 May 2021, 22:11
by coneye
Some could argue when Ricky in his prime won the title , it was against a good champion , who was coming off a long lay off and an injury , , and when he stepped up he lost ,,, But then again you could argue he beat a real good champ to win the belt and look who he lost too ,, two of the best boxers in recent times ,, agree he would off been all over Taylor , and Bens tactics to win the fight , by get in his head would'nt of worried Hatton ,,, In fact i think Hatton would of turned them tactics around ,

So that leaves could Josh handle Hattons pressure ,, Mmmmm ,,, my guess is ,, DON'T KNOW

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 28 May 2021, 23:28
by ironbeard
My guess is Ricky could not handle JT’s power.

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 29 May 2021, 03:31
by smiling assassin
What a fight that would be. I’d favour Hatton to bring to much pressure for Taylor to handle but wouldn’t of been surprised if Taylor had to much skill for Hatton. Eamonn Magee had Hatton in trouble early and Taylor is a level above him. I think I could change my mind 5 times a day on this :lol:

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 29 May 2021, 03:32
by margaret thatcher
ironbeard wrote: 28 May 2021, 23:28 My guess is Ricky could not handle JT’s power.
ricky vs jose ramirez, who do ya like in that one :box:

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 29 May 2021, 03:44
by banjo
coneye wrote: 28 May 2021, 22:11 Some could argue when Ricky in his prime won the title , it was against a good champion , who was coming off a long lay off and an injury , , and when he stepped up he lost ,,, But then again you could argue he beat a real good champ to win the belt and look who he lost too ,, two of the best boxers in recent times ,, agree he would off been all over Taylor , and Bens tactics to win the fight , by get in his head would'nt of worried Hatton ,,, In fact i think Hatton would of turned them tactics around ,

So that leaves could Josh handle Hattons pressure ,, Mmmmm ,,, my guess is ,, DON'T KNOW
Tszyu might have been relatively inactive in the couple of years before the Hatton fight but he did emphatically beat Sharmba Mitchell 6 months or so before he fought Ricky.

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 29 May 2021, 07:46
by polecateddy
Taylor does have that upright ‘British’ style that Hatton was always successful against. I’d still pick the early version of Hatton to be a bit too much for Taylor.

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 29 May 2021, 09:47
by ironbeard
margaret thatcher wrote: 29 May 2021, 03:32
ironbeard wrote: 28 May 2021, 23:28 My guess is Ricky could not handle JT’s power.
ricky vs jose ramirez, who do ya like in that one :box:
Not sure. Better match for both. It would be a war start to finish, by KO or decision.

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 30 May 2021, 10:40
by THEBUTCH
I've mixed feelings about those using Hatton v Magee as a pointer for Taylor beating Hatton.

Taylor undoubtedly counters with much better precision & power than Magee, so yes, I get that, but Hatton did navigate those tricky moments and dominate Magee over the 12 rounds.

Magee had no choice but to stay in his shell or get battered. Obviously Josh is far more daring than Eamon, but does that win the day or ultimately play into Ricky's hands.

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 30 May 2021, 10:51
by Noxy
Hatton.

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 30 May 2021, 10:56
by emallini
Hatton is underrated nowadays. He was a beast.

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 30 May 2021, 11:35
by Steveh583
emallini wrote: 30 May 2021, 10:56 Hatton is underrated nowadays. He was a beast.
only at a certain level. he looked AWFUL and dull by the time he went to america. Only the Castillo fight entertained and that was cos he was shot to pieces. Ricky always sold himself as "mr excitement" whilst hugging his opponents for half the fight.

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 30 May 2021, 11:37
by Steveh583
Josh repeatedly catches him coming in, as hatton tries to "smother". He also surprises ricky with his inside game. Josh cuts him and stops him late.

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 30 May 2021, 11:39
by DrDuke
Steveh583 wrote: 30 May 2021, 11:35
emallini wrote: 30 May 2021, 10:56 Hatton is underrated nowadays. He was a beast.
only at a certain level. he looked AWFUL and dull by the time he went to america. Only the Castillo fight entertained and that was cos he was shot to pieces. Ricky always sold himself as "mr excitement" whilst hugging his opponents for half the fight.
Right, I've never understood, how on earth that hustling could be exciting.

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 30 May 2021, 12:02
by Boxerbeetle
DrDuke wrote: 30 May 2021, 11:39
Steveh583 wrote: 30 May 2021, 11:35
emallini wrote: 30 May 2021, 10:56 Hatton is underrated nowadays. He was a beast.
only at a certain level. he looked AWFUL and dull by the time he went to america. Only the Castillo fight entertained and that was cos he was shot to pieces. Ricky always sold himself as "mr excitement" whilst hugging his opponents for half the fight.
Right, I've never understood, how on earth that hustling could be exciting.
It was exciting against KT when Hatton could conceivably have been caught every time he went in for a hug. Against Urango or Lazcano, admittedly it was awful to watch.

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 30 May 2021, 12:11
by Counter-puncher
THEBUTCH wrote: 30 May 2021, 10:40 I've mixed feelings about those using Hatton v Magee as a pointer for Taylor beating Hatton.

Taylor undoubtedly counters with much better precision & power than Magee, so yes, I get that, but Hatton did navigate those tricky moments and dominate Magee over the 12 rounds.

Magee had no choice but to stay in his shell or get battered.

Obviously Josh is far more daring than Eamon, but does that win the day or ultimately play into Ricky's hands.
He’s also bigger, a harder puncher, better combination puncher and all round better boxer IMO proven two levels above Magee.

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 30 May 2021, 17:25
by THEBUTCH
Indeed, but it would present more openings for Hatton?

Ramirez had success with his pressuring and that was Hatton's great asset.

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 31 May 2021, 10:20
by whiskey
Hatton operated during some of the best ever times at 140lb

It was rammed with talent. Way tougher than it is nowadays.

Hatton didn’t like southpaws, Collazo was a step-up in weight with little notice. Got rocked to his boots.

Can Taylor rock Hatton ? Yes he could but not 100% convinced he’d beat Ricky prime for prime.

I think his swarming style would tire Taylor out.

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 31 May 2021, 11:13
by Counter-puncher
It seems very close to 50/50 split in terms of the forum’s opinion, which probably says something.

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 31 May 2021, 11:27
by Dioufy
Good to see you still alive Counter Puncher.
I think a prime Hatton too much for Taylor. The leftie angle gives Taylor a chance to outbox him, sure, but Taylor does seem to coast late on and I think Hatton finally pins him down on the ropes and stops him with flurries to the head and body.

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 31 May 2021, 12:27
by Steveh583
whiskey wrote: 31 May 2021, 10:20 Hatton operated during some of the best ever times at 140lb

It was rammed with talent. Way tougher than it is nowadays.

Hatton didn’t like southpaws, Collazo was a step-up in weight with little notice. Got rocked to his boots.

Can Taylor rock Hatton ? Yes he could but not 100% convinced he’d beat Ricky prime for prime.

I think his swarming style would tire Taylor out.
who were these killers ricky fought outside of KT that taylor would have struggled with? The ancient vince phillips? The limited Ben Tackie? Ray Oliveria? Chronic alky Eamon Magee? The shot to pieces Castillo? The plodding Urango? The retired Lazcano? Powder Puff Paulie? Maussa ffs.... Josh would breeze through every single one of those. Best ever times, you must be joking. Even Gatti was a glorified clubfighter just cos he was in exciting wars. Witter was a talent, but we know hatton wanted no part of him truth be told. Judah could was a beast when he was switched on. Cotto was only there 5 minutes. I can't see anything ricky achieved that Josh couldn't also. (tho the KT result was a belter)

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 31 May 2021, 13:58
by banjo
Steveh583 wrote: 31 May 2021, 12:27
whiskey wrote: 31 May 2021, 10:20 Hatton operated during some of the best ever times at 140lb

It was rammed with talent. Way tougher than it is nowadays.

Hatton didn’t like southpaws, Collazo was a step-up in weight with little notice. Got rocked to his boots.

Can Taylor rock Hatton ? Yes he could but not 100% convinced he’d beat Ricky prime for prime.

I think his swarming style would tire Taylor out.
who were these killers ricky fought outside of KT that taylor would have struggled with? The ancient vince phillips? The limited Ben Tackie? Ray Oliveria? Chronic alky Eamon Magee? The shot to pieces Castillo? The plodding Urango? The retired Lazcano? Powder Puff Paulie? Maussa ffs.... Josh would breeze through every single one of those. Best ever times, you must be joking. Even Gatti was a glorified clubfighter just cos he was in exciting wars. Witter was a talent, but we know hatton wanted no part of him truth be told. Judah could was a beast when he was switched on. Cotto was only there 5 minutes. I can't see anything ricky achieved that Josh couldn't also. (tho the KT result was a belter)
Witter ducked Eamonn Magee

Re: Who wins....Ricky Hatton or Josh Taylor ?

Posted: 31 May 2021, 14:31
by whiskey
Steveh583 wrote: 31 May 2021, 12:27
whiskey wrote: 31 May 2021, 10:20 Hatton operated during some of the best ever times at 140lb

It was rammed with talent. Way tougher than it is nowadays.

Hatton didn’t like southpaws, Collazo was a step-up in weight with little notice. Got rocked to his boots.

Can Taylor rock Hatton ? Yes he could but not 100% convinced he’d beat Ricky prime for prime.

I think his swarming style would tire Taylor out.
who were these killers ricky fought outside of KT that taylor would have struggled with? The ancient vince phillips? The limited Ben Tackie? Ray Oliveria? Chronic alky Eamon Magee? The shot to pieces Castillo? The plodding Urango? The retired Lazcano? Powder Puff Paulie? Maussa ffs.... Josh would breeze through every single one of those. Best ever times, you must be joking. Even Gatti was a glorified clubfighter just cos he was in exciting wars. Witter was a talent, but we know hatton wanted no part of him truth be told. Judah could was a beast when he was switched on. Cotto was only there 5 minutes. I can't see anything ricky achieved that Josh couldn't also. (tho the KT result was a belter)
Same could be said of Taylor - who the eff is Prograis ?

140 is not a patch on the old days.

I like Taylor but he’s had the benefit of a mediocre division.