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Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 11:20 Much better deal for me, I don't watch other sport, so good riddance to having to shell out to get to the boxing on sky.

stujones wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 16:25 Worrying for me is Eddie is already saying more British fighters abroad...and not necessarily in the US, but that hotbed of boxing talent Australia was mentioned.

It's all about the global brand...but my fear it will not fit and also effect the development of the British fighter.

What about the other way around....bring the top US prospects to the UK?

stujones wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 16:25 Worrying for me is Eddie is already saying more British fighters abroad...and not necessarily in the US, but that hotbed of boxing talent Australia was mentioned.

It's all about the global brand...but my fear it will not fit and also effect the development of the British fighter.

What about the other way around....bring the top US prospects to the UK?

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 13:39

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 11:20 Much better deal for me, I don't watch other sport, so good riddance to having to shell out to get to the boxing on sky.

Similar here, I watch football but not enough to justify paying full price for Sky Sports. I already subscribe to DAZN and Fightzone so that’s around 7 quid a month for a shedload of boxing and that’s amazing value really. If DAZN goes up by a few quid then it will still be a great deal, as long as they don’t take the piss and put it straight up to a tenner or something.

maverick23 wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 17:34

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 13:39

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 11:20 Much better deal for me, I don't watch other sport, so good riddance to having to shell out to get to the boxing on sky.

Similar here, I watch football but not enough to justify paying full price for Sky Sports. I already subscribe to DAZN and Fightzone so that’s around 7 quid a month for a shedload of boxing and that’s amazing value really. If DAZN goes up by a few quid then it will still be a great deal, as long as they don’t take the piss and put it straight up to a tenner or something.

I think it’ll be a tenner a month. I’d be surprised if it’s cheaper. Over shows 40 a year (at least 35 Matchroom plus Golden Boy shows. Compared with fightzone that’s maybe a few more shows a year but at a much much lower quality on the whole. A 10er isn’t a taking the piss price I don’t think.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 17:32

stujones wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 16:25 Worrying for me is Eddie is already saying more British fighters abroad...and not necessarily in the US, but that hotbed of boxing talent Australia was mentioned.

It's all about the global brand...but my fear it will not fit and also effect the development of the British fighter.

What about the other way around....bring the top US prospects to the UK?

there are good opponents all around the world, not just in the uk. the problem might be if they are looking for a guy to fight in a certain country just for the hell of it, rather than having a genuinely good opponent there for them to fight

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 13:21

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 13:09 Interesting to read Hearn basically admitting him and Sky have been ripping us off with crap PPVs for years Shame on anyone who supported that model by buying them btw

Also interesting that the £1.99 is now being described as an ‘introductory’ offer rather than the regular price, which will presumably be announced in the next few months. They’ll need to be very careful on pricing it correctly, can’t see many people paying more than a fiver a month for a boxing only streaming service which doesn’t even feature AJ.

He did say it was due to purse demands of boxers. Sky weren’t willing to put up all the purse for certain fights, this is how Whyte became a PPV player. His purse demands were way more than the £1m, which was most he’d get. Anything extra came from the fans pockets.

Greg Houston wrote: ↑04 Jun 2021, 02:15

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 13:21

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 13:09 Interesting to read Hearn basically admitting him and Sky have been ripping us off with crap PPVs for years Shame on anyone who supported that model by buying them btw

Also interesting that the £1.99 is now being described as an ‘introductory’ offer rather than the regular price, which will presumably be announced in the next few months. They’ll need to be very careful on pricing it correctly, can’t see many people paying more than a fiver a month for a boxing only streaming service which doesn’t even feature AJ.

He did say it was due to purse demands of boxers. Sky weren’t willing to put up all the purse for certain fights, this is how Whyte became a PPV player. His purse demands were way more than the £1m, which was most he’d get. Anything extra came from the fans pockets.

I remember reading an interview where he said he could only pay certain boxers what they wanted by making the shows PPV. My reaction was that the boxers are asking for more than they're actually worth and he should tell them that. It's not like they could go elsewhere and get that pay day they were demanding.

Scoops wrote: ↑04 Jun 2021, 02:56

Greg Houston wrote: ↑04 Jun 2021, 02:15

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 13:21

He did say it was due to purse demands of boxers. Sky weren’t willing to put up all the purse for certain fights, this is how Whyte became a PPV player. His purse demands were way more than the £1m, which was most he’d get. Anything extra came from the fans pockets.

I remember reading an interview where he said he could only pay certain boxers what they wanted by making the shows PPV. My reaction was that the boxers are asking for more than they're actually worth and he should tell them that. It's not like they could go elsewhere and get that pay day they were demanding.

There is logic to this. Someone is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

"I'm not fighting for less than £1m"

"Ok, your not fighting"

Six months later and no fight and no pay day.

"About that Saturday Fight Night show where you were offering me £200k...."

maverick23 wrote: ↑04 Jun 2021, 03:00

Scoops wrote: ↑04 Jun 2021, 02:56

Greg Houston wrote: ↑04 Jun 2021, 02:15

I remember reading an interview where he said he could only pay certain boxers what they wanted by making the shows PPV. My reaction was that the boxers are asking for more than they're actually worth and he should tell them that. It's not like they could go elsewhere and get that pay day they were demanding.

There is logic to this. Someone is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

"I'm not fighting for less than £1m"

"Ok, your not fighting"

Six months later and no fight and no pay day.

"About that Saturday Fight Night show where you were offering me £200k...."

It’s a different marketplace nowadays though. Fighters, like a Dillian Whyte, would just go to another promoter as there’d be several that offer
big money to him.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 17:46

maverick23 wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 17:34

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 13:39

Similar here, I watch football but not enough to justify paying full price for Sky Sports. I already subscribe to DAZN and Fightzone so that’s around 7 quid a month for a shedload of boxing and that’s amazing value really. If DAZN goes up by a few quid then it will still be a great deal, as long as they don’t take the piss and put it straight up to a tenner or something.

I think it’ll be a tenner a month. I’d be surprised if it’s cheaper. Over shows 40 a year (at least 35 Matchroom plus Golden Boy shows. Compared with fightzone that’s maybe a few more shows a year but at a much much lower quality on the whole. A 10er isn’t a taking the piss price I don’t think.

£10 from £2 would be a hell of a jump. That would be more than a Netflix subscription, or around half the price of an average Sky Sports subscription despite only showing boxing, which seems very pricy to me and couldn’t see it attracting many subscribers really.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 17:46

maverick23 wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 17:34

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 13:39

Similar here, I watch football but not enough to justify paying full price for Sky Sports. I already subscribe to DAZN and Fightzone so that’s around 7 quid a month for a shedload of boxing and that’s amazing value really. If DAZN goes up by a few quid then it will still be a great deal, as long as they don’t take the piss and put it straight up to a tenner or something.

I think it’ll be a tenner a month. I’d be surprised if it’s cheaper. Over shows 40 a year (at least 35 Matchroom plus Golden Boy shows. Compared with fightzone that’s maybe a few more shows a year but at a much much lower quality on the whole. A 10er isn’t a taking the piss price I don’t think.

£10 from £2 would be a hell of a jump. That would be more than a Netflix subscription, or around half the price of an average Sky Sports subscription despite only showing boxing, which seems very pricy to me and couldn’t see it attracting many subscribers really.

Scoops wrote: ↑04 Jun 2021, 02:56

Greg Houston wrote: ↑04 Jun 2021, 02:15

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 13:21

He did say it was due to purse demands of boxers. Sky weren’t willing to put up all the purse for certain fights, this is how Whyte became a PPV player. His purse demands were way more than the £1m, which was most he’d get. Anything extra came from the fans pockets.

I remember reading an interview where he said he could only pay certain boxers what they wanted by making the shows PPV. My reaction was that the boxers are asking for more than they're actually worth and he should tell them that. It's not like they could go elsewhere and get that pay day they were demanding.

There is logic to this. Someone is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

"I'm not fighting for less than £1m"

"Ok, your not fighting"

Six months later and no fight and no pay day.

"About that Saturday Fight Night show where you were offering me £200k...."

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 10:10

Dull Tools wrote: ↑04 Jun 2021, 06:08 In Germany DAZN is 11.99 Euros a month and they have all the Bundesliga and Champions League.

Can't see the Boxing being more than £4.99 even if they get AJ.

DAZN are obviously going to go for other sports but I wonder what they will be? BT Sports is up for sale so that would be an easy way to get lots of rights.

They could get a lot of other Matchroom stuff too such as the darts and snooker.

Wonder if there will still be Next Gen shows? They were pretty good and would be great if they put that on terrestrial TV.

Dan Dares wrote: ↑04 Jun 2021, 08:31

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Jun 2021, 10:10

It's not important - but the production on this video statement is really bad.

The dodgy Green Screen makes his hair look grey, sound quality is pretty bad (lots of reverb in Eddie's empty office), it's badly lit and the camera transitions are dodgy too. It's almost like it's trying to be pro-level, and falling well short.

If he's going to do a lot of statements from his office, Eddie needs to get a booth.

If this is the shape of things to come from Matchroom's production team, eeeek.

That said, apart from a few mic leaks, and expected live broadcast hiccups, production so far on DAZN has been fine, butt's going to be interesting to see what happens. They'll need to learn quickly.