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Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 02 Jul 2021, 17:45
by gilgamesh
Douglas vs Tyson is the biggest upset in the history of Pro Sports period. Ruiz vs AJ is the biggest upset since then.

Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 02 Jul 2021, 18:30
by Foggy
gilgamesh wrote: 02 Jul 2021, 17:45 Douglas vs Tyson is the biggest upset in the history of Pro Sports period. Ruiz vs AJ is the biggest upset since then.
The whole of pro sports 😳😳😳 now we go into a whole different topic

Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 02 Jul 2021, 18:46
by gilgamesh
Foggy wrote: 02 Jul 2021, 18:30
gilgamesh wrote: 02 Jul 2021, 17:45 Douglas vs Tyson is the biggest upset in the history of Pro Sports period. Ruiz vs AJ is the biggest upset since then.
The whole of pro sports 😳😳😳 now we go into a whole different topic
We do and Douglas vs Tyson is still at the top of the list of all time upsets.

Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 02 Jul 2021, 19:01
by goose 5
James Degale was -10000 in the first Caleb Truax bout.

Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 02 Jul 2021, 21:51
by coghaugen11
I watched Benn v Watson in America live on NBC around 5pm on a Sunday and it was like Benn was being groomed by the US producers as this invincible destroyer on his way over soon and it was being used like some kind of coronation for Benn - they’d all heard about him but hadn’t seen him yet.

That was a huge fight. Diehard boxing mates back home couldn’t get a ticket for that tent for love nor money. A who’s who of British celebs were ringside, like nothing you saw before in the UK. Every cast member of Eastenders and Coronation Street and every top-flight English footballer for a start...Linda Lucardi, Jonathon Ross, Linford Christie; all going to their first boxing match. You had Gary Stretch and Raquel Welch, a young Roy Jones Jr, young Lennox Lewis, unknown Chris Eubank and Michael Nunn all ringside near Frank Bruno. Madness.

In many ways, Benn-Watson kicked off the modern era of pro boxing. You never saw an arena entry before or that kind of glamour, with the whole Michael Jackson ‘Bad’ thing.

Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 02 Jul 2021, 22:00
by coghaugen11
Brilliantly, Watson simply tucked up under the instruction of his experienced corner (Mickey Duff, Dennie Mancini) and allowed the 22-0 (22 Kayos - vast majority of which in a round or two and spectacular) Benn to punch himself out.

You couldn’t write it. Watson lived a mile or so away from the make-shift venue with his mother in a council flat.


Strangely, the Americans were so impressed by Benn in the loss that Bob Arum signed him days later and called him ‘my English Hagler’ and ‘the most exciting fighter the world’ (when Mike Tyson was at his absolute peak).

Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 02 Jul 2021, 22:12
by KiwiRider
All right!
I'm sold already. I'll watch it later :-P

Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 02 Jul 2021, 22:49
by gregregegg
I am amazed that Tyson vs holifeild had tyson as a -2500 Favorited. in hindsight that seems absolutely mental.

Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 03 Jul 2021, 00:29
by coghaugen11
KiwiRider wrote: 02 Jul 2021, 22:12 All right!
I'm sold already. I'll watch it later :-P
You want the ring entrance of Benn. Trust me.

Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 03 Jul 2021, 00:30
by coghaugen11
gregregegg wrote: 02 Jul 2021, 22:49 I am amazed that Tyson vs holifeild had tyson as a -2500 Favorited. in hindsight that seems absolutely mental.
Considering he had boxed 3-4 rounds in 5-6 years it’s absolutely hideous really.

Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 03 Jul 2021, 00:55
by banjo
coghaugen11 wrote: 02 Jul 2021, 12:34 Us Brits have had some great huge ones for a tiny island; Turpin-Robinson, Laing-Duran, McGuigan-Pedroza, Honeyghan-Curry, Benn-McClellan, Hatton-Tszyu, and Fury-Klitschko.
McAvoy vs Risko

Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 03 Jul 2021, 02:01
by MasterG
Foggy wrote: 02 Jul 2021, 16:50
MasterG wrote: 02 Jul 2021, 16:28 What about the unsung heroes too.

Michael Murray beating Marcus Bott
Was Murray a waste of talent, never watched him before, but holds wins over Francis and Mcbride?
Yes he was. He started off a decent heavyweight but took the journey man route for easy money.

Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 03 Jul 2021, 02:03
by MasterG
KiwiRider wrote: 02 Jul 2021, 17:29
MasterG wrote: 02 Jul 2021, 14:21 I would also like to say Benn v Watson was quite a shock until you explored each boxers record at the time and difference in quality of wins.
I'll have to check it out. Minor fights like British titles never made it down here back then. I saw Eubank vs Benn because it was for a world title, that was a goodie.
The thing about this fight was the fact that Watson had better wins on his record but everyone over looked it because Benn was knocking everyone out on TV where as Watson was beating better but no TV coverage

Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 03 Jul 2021, 02:05
by MasterG
KiwiRider wrote: 02 Jul 2021, 22:12 All right!
I'm sold already. I'll watch it later :-P
You'll love it but back then it was huge. I couldn't sleep after the fight.

Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 03 Jul 2021, 03:08
by bigjack
MasterG wrote: 03 Jul 2021, 02:05
KiwiRider wrote: 02 Jul 2021, 22:12 All right!
I'm sold already. I'll watch it later :-P
You'll love it but back then it was huge. I couldn't sleep after the fight.
Just before Benn stepped through that cheap cardboard door you could see someone drag it shut like something off the Generation Game :lol:

Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 03 Jul 2021, 03:13
by margaret thatcher
benny's bad :lol:


Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 03 Jul 2021, 04:39
by Foggy
Benn then became a world champion less than a year later…..the good old days

Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 03 Jul 2021, 04:53
by KiwiRider
Watched it :TU:
That was all action. :bag:
Credit to Watson, he wasn't just blocking, but diffusing the shots with a floppy high defence- quite neat stuff-and landing some shots.

Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 03 Jul 2021, 04:59
by bennie
Muhammad Ali's defeat at the hands of Leon Spinks in February 1978 was a huge upset. Spinks went into the 15-rounder with just seven fights behind him and looked lucky to scrape a draw in one of them. Nobody expected him to topple the great Ali but Leon put it all together for one night and one night only.

Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 03 Jul 2021, 09:31
by coghaugen11
LaMotta beating undefeated Robinson was quite the upset at the time. Good as Jake was.

Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 03 Jul 2021, 13:38
by coghaugen11
How Benn went from that, to this:



11:15-

The rollercoaster of rollercoasters of a career

Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 03 Jul 2021, 19:28
by CaptainSpacerod
Different times and it wouldn’t happen now as people constantly have access to information but Tyson Douglas was the only time I can ever remember in my whole life when people were told what the result of a sporting contest was and just flat out refused to believe it.

It was absolutely astonishing, thirty years later I can still remember my total amazement. The only other sporting upset I can compare it to is when Nadal finally lost a match at Roland Garros to Soderling which was equally astonishing to tennis fans but didn’t have the wider shock value that Tyson’s loss had

Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 04 Jul 2021, 02:50
by MasterG
Kirkland Laing getting knocked out by journeyman Buck Smith was quite a shock.

I'm sure too that Buck Smith fought twice on the same night in different countries but later it was revealed that it wasn't Buck Smith after all. Strange boxer was Buck with a lot of fights he apparently didn't have.

Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 04 Jul 2021, 03:27
by 541014
gilgamesh wrote: 02 Jul 2021, 17:45 Douglas vs Tyson is the biggest upset in the history of Pro Sports boxing period. Ruiz vs AJ is the biggest upset since then.
Really sad about Aj and Douglas :(

Re: What really is the biggest upset in boxing?

Posted: 04 Jul 2021, 03:36
by Loftgroov
Antonio Tarver stopping Roy Jones Jr in the second round (second fight).