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Posted: 09 Feb 2005, 12:20
by Old bones Ian
jamesmcdonnell wrote:FlawedGenius wrote:Religion is a simpleton's thing, but you are right, this is a boxing forum.
I tend to agree, but sadly, people get extremely offended by statements like that.
I had a mate who became a Jehova's Witness, changed from a bright, incisive, curious minded young kid, to a drug-addict, to a Jehova's witness.
Can't really hold a decent conversation with him any more as god comes into absolutely every conversation.
Really, what does God sound like?
Posted: 09 Feb 2005, 13:11
by KOJOE90
Posted: 09 Feb 2005, 14:15
by JimStone
Manos de Oro wrote:FlawedGenius wrote:I am always gobsmacked when I read about people "Finding God" or what have you. Those who are brainwashed as kids I have some sympathy for, but to get swept away by religion as an adult is worthy of nothing short of derision. Science is where these people should be finding their answers, not the bible.

Consider how interlinked Islam is with science:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/introductio ... ledge.html
Consider what these Muslims are up to in Iraq:
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/war/iraq/index.html
Science doesn't exclusively breed rational thought.
No. Science
exclusively does breed rational thought. Your example is not one of exclusivity; it is of an attempted intertwining of religion and science. Nothing can be successfully intertwined with religion, because religion is nonsense.
Posted: 09 Feb 2005, 16:01
by Manos de Oro
FlawedGenius wrote:Manos de Oro wrote:FlawedGenius wrote:I am always gobsmacked when I read about people "Finding God" or what have you. Those who are brainwashed as kids I have some sympathy for, but to get swept away by religion as an adult is worthy of nothing short of derision. Science is where these people should be finding their answers, not the bible.

Consider how interlinked Islam is with science:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/introductio ... ledge.html
Consider what these Muslims are up to in Iraq:
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/war/iraq/index.html
Science doesn't exclusively breed rational thought.
No. Science
exclusively does breed rational thought. Your example is not one of exclusivity; it is of an attempted intertwining of religion and science. Nothing can be successfully intertwined with religion, because religion is nonsense.
Religion
can breed rational thought. Many of the vignettes in religious texts appear nonsense if you read them literally, so what's wrong with reading them as allegories? I see many as codes that people depressed/in search of direction can decode in their own way, take their own meaning from. Depending solely on science for all the answers you seek in life can leave you with such a heavy sense of pathos it's just depressing. For example, walking around with a mind conditioned to be unafraid of death, you'd be more likely to be happy, than if you were walking around with the knowledge of the cancer/disease you're likely to die from.
Posted: 09 Feb 2005, 16:07
by stujones