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JamesPhilips wrote: ↑22 Aug 2021, 10:37

oogiebe wrote: ↑22 Aug 2021, 10:34

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑22 Aug 2021, 10:31 I suppose Ali needs to be mentioned, it would be the standard ‘cazzy’ answer

I disagree. Can't understate the significance.

Well I get it, he was only 2 years out and came back to serious money and fights. But it’s a story that gets flogged endlessly

For the record, it was 3 years and 7 months. That's a pretty long time.

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑25 Aug 2021, 15:48

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑22 Aug 2021, 10:37

oogiebe wrote: ↑22 Aug 2021, 10:34

I disagree. Can't understate the significance.

Well I get it, he was only 2 years out and came back to serious money and fights. But it’s a story that gets flogged endlessly

For the record, it was 3 years and 7 months. That's a pretty long time.

Ah right. Yeah that’s long

Brazilian great Eder Jofre was out for over three years when he launched a comeback in 1969 and won the WBC featherweight title.

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑25 Aug 2021, 16:31

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑25 Aug 2021, 15:48

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑22 Aug 2021, 10:37

Well I get it, he was only 2 years out and came back to serious money and fights. But it’s a story that gets flogged endlessly

For the record, it was 3 years and 7 months. That's a pretty long time.

Ah right. Yeah that’s long

Also, it was right smack in the middle of his peak.

bennie wrote: ↑26 Aug 2021, 01:03 Brazilian great Eder Jofre was out for over three years when he launched a comeback in 1969 and won the WBC featherweight title.

The most versatile all around pro boxer in history.

Whilst not necessarily appropriate for this thread title - Ali's rematch win over Leon Spinks always amazes me. I always single that out, with all things considered Ali's greatest win. Lets be honest - the man had parkinson's disease in the early stages YEARS before the Spinks rematch and he shouldn't have been heavyweight champion by the first Leon fight.... then he loses one of the "worse" split decisions' I have seen vs Spinks - Leon won that by miles - then to turn back everything and put on the display he did in the rematch, yes Leon had partied hard, but he was still a quality boxer and Olympic Champion. The manner of his win in the rematch - that Ali was as good as anything in his second reign (thriller in the manila aside) - to do that with all the obsticles he was facing was amazing.

I would add that I have true admiration for his display against Berbick with that "all things considered" caveat. To even be competitive against a geniune top 10 fighter given his health at that stage was amazing - and yes Ali was competitive and gave a decent account and there was no way Berbick was holding back.

ya people often lump holmes and berbick together as a shot ali taking 2 bad beatings, but he was actually quite competitive vs berby

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Aug 2021, 15:11 ya people often lump holmes and berbick together as a shot ali taking 2 bad beatings, but he was actually quite competitive vs berby

Has someone hacked your account?

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑27 Aug 2021, 16:29

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Aug 2021, 15:11 ya people often lump holmes and berbick together as a shot ali taking 2 bad beatings, but he was actually quite competitive vs berby

Has someone hacked your account?

if they have, they at least didnt change my password, for which i am thankful

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Aug 2021, 20:44

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑27 Aug 2021, 16:29

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Aug 2021, 15:11 ya people often lump holmes and berbick together as a shot ali taking 2 bad beatings, but he was actually quite competitive vs berby

Has someone hacked your account?

if they have, they at least didnt change my password, for which i am thankful

It was close and boring for the first 7/8 rounds, but the last 2/3 were all berbick. It wasn't pretty.

oogiebe wrote: ↑27 Aug 2021, 20:59

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Aug 2021, 20:44

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑27 Aug 2021, 16:29

Has someone hacked your account?

if they have, they at least didnt change my password, for which i am thankful

It was close and boring for the first 7/8 rounds, but the last 2/3 were all berbick. It wasn't pretty.

Yes - it was a clear win for Berbick, but the very fact that Ali was holding his own for most of the fight and was competitive given his clear cut health issues was remarkable. Berbick was a geniune top ten fighter at the time.

The Holmes fight was sorry from the first second of round one and from round 8 onwards of that one - Holmes was in full on carrying mode.