Imo a 38y/o Andre Ward would be Canelo's toughest opponent!(better than GGG,Charlo,Benavidez,Bivol or Beterbiev)

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Re: Something that would re-spark the boxing fire would be if Ward will come out of retirement to fight Canelo

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Enlightened-One wrote: 17 Sep 2021, 16:43
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 17 Sep 2021, 15:33
margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Sep 2021, 15:16 wait, andre ward is a disabled person now
He has a specialty policy he made a claim on for disability for knees

His problem is he fought twice after saying they were injured, knees are impossible to prove itnisnt a degenerative condition, and his particular insurer is a litigator not a pragmatic settlement firm

Anyhow, he can still fight. He wouldnt be guilty of criminal fraud he can argue some exercise cured him. That would be impossible to disprove
Did you read the lawsuit notes?

I provided a link to them.

I have to assume you didn’t, and I’m not being disparaging when I say that, because I know you’re far more intelligent than your sentences I’ve just quoted in this post.

Hopefully, you’re not going to say something silly, like you don’t even need to read them to know what’s going on.
No i couldnt read them. I have access because of my career but im traveling. Im going off what i remember when he filed a couple years ago and my initial thoughts. So if it is more up to date i will read when i get back to my pc.
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Re: A fight that would re-spark the boxing fire would be Ward vs Canelo in 2022

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We don't need anymore guys coming out of retirement.

We need the guys that are there to actually fight each other and take the best opponents possible.
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Re: A fight that would re-spark the boxing fire would be Ward vs Canelo in 2022

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EO this seems to be in mediation because lloyds tpa totally botched wards claim which is typical of a claim tpa - deny and delay bs. Ward will get some settlement money
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Re: A fight that would re-spark the boxing fire would be Ward vs Canelo in 2022

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no chance any fight with ward invold wouldnt be able to restart a petrol station fire with pyromaniac about, fury aj or nothing
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Re: A fight that would re-spark the boxing fire would be Ward vs Canelo in 2022

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I was glad that arsewipe Ward had retired. What a boring fighter he was.
Who the heck wants to see a guy that throws one shot then goes immediately to hold.
Feck that for a joke.
Good riddance.
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KiwiRider wrote: 17 Sep 2021, 20:13 I was glad that arsewipe Ward had retired. What a boring fighter he was.
Who the heck wants to see a guy that throws one shot then goes immediately to hold.
Feck that for a joke.
Good riddance.
He was like hopkins who we all admired fighting that way at 45... but for a 30 year old its boring as hell
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KiwiRider wrote: 17 Sep 2021, 20:13 I was glad that arsewipe Ward had retired. What a boring fighter he was.
Who the heck wants to see a guy that throws one shot then goes immediately to hold.
Feck that for a joke.
Good riddance.
thats it though kiwi man i think that is why kk fight was so big as kovalev was the opposite to that
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KiwiRider wrote: 17 Sep 2021, 20:13 I was glad that arsewipe Ward had retired. What a boring fighter he was.
Who the heck wants to see a guy that throws one shot then goes immediately to hold.
Feck that for a joke.
Good riddance.
thats it though kiwi man i think that is why kk fight was so big as kovalev was the opposite to that
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Re: A fight that would re-spark the boxing fire would be Ward vs Canelo in 2022

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Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 17 Sep 2021, 20:19
KiwiRider wrote: 17 Sep 2021, 20:13 I was glad that arsewipe Ward had retired. What a boring fighter he was.
Who the heck wants to see a guy that throws one shot then goes immediately to hold.
Feck that for a joke.
Good riddance.
He was like hopkins who we all admired fighting that way at 45... but for a 30 year old its boring as hell
we all loved joe smith banging him through the ropes
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Re: A fight that would re-spark the boxing fire would be Ward vs Canelo in 2022

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ward and canelo..........2 great fighters who make ppl so butthurt
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margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Sep 2021, 20:33 ward and canelo..........2 great fighters who make ppl so butthurt
ward wins what time in there carers , wards to good to let a littler man beat him has a jab, i like saul one of my all time faviourt fighters
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margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Sep 2021, 20:33 ward and canelo..........2 great fighters who make ppl so butthurt
Wards amazing and boring. Just like wlad. His kovalev, kessler and froch wins were really impressive
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“They both can get it in the ring, no problem,” said Canelo Alvarez in reacting to Andre Ward helping Caleb Plant in training.

“It’s only going to be me and him [Plant] in the ring, but if they both get in there, I still don’t have a problem,” Canelo said about him being open to fighting Ward as well as Plant.@ BN24

I think Ward could do it with proper tune ups and a proper training camp, he could give Canelo a fight @ 168! :box:
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Re: Imo a 38y/o Andre Ward would be Canelo's toughest opponent!(better than GGG,Charlo,Benavidez,Bivol or Beterbiev)

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A 38 y/o Andre Ward with 2 good tune ups and a proper training camp would be a better opponent for Canelo than Charlo, Benavidez, Bivol or Beterbiev! :box:
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Re: Something that would re-spark the boxing fire would be if Ward will come out of retirement to fight Canelo

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apollo creed wrote: 17 Sep 2021, 15:36 Ward vs Canelo in 2022 would be huge!
No one's ever accused Ward of being an idiot. I'm sure he's financially set, and would be foolish to cut to 168 at his age and inactivity. This reminds me of Ward critics saying he would never dare to move up to 175 to take on the crusher. Then he was afraid to rematch the crusher. He beat him twice, and also called GGG on his BS claim he would fight at 168.

Believe it or not, although money drives most things in boxing, not everyone is dumb enough to risk damage to their legacy if they don't need the money.

Boxing doesn't need Ward to re-spark things, it needs our current champs to start making fights fans want to see.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 17 Sep 2021, 12:26
Onetimeonly wrote: 17 Sep 2021, 11:56:lol:
apolllo creed posts a controversial comment.

Onetimeonly immediately responds and defends apollo creed.

Someone disagrees with Onetimeonly.

apollo creed immediately responds and defends Onetimeonly.

Both guys generally submit posts within minutes of each other (or around the same timeframe each day).

Interesting! :OhYes:
I was laughing at him this time cupcake.
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Re: Imo a 38y/o Andre Ward would be Canelo's toughest opponent!(better than GGG,Charlo,Benavidez,Bivol or Beterbiev)

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88 % on here dont want to see it so that tells it all .
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Re: Something that would re-spark the boxing fire would be if Ward will come out of retirement to fight Canelo

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Bandog wrote: 18 Sep 2021, 09:58
apollo creed wrote: 17 Sep 2021, 15:36 Ward vs Canelo in 2022 would be huge!
No one's ever accused Ward of being an idiot. I'm sure he's financially set, and would be foolish to cut to 168 at his age and inactivity. This reminds me of Ward critics saying he would never dare to move up to 175 to take on the crusher. Then he was afraid to rematch the crusher. He beat him twice, and also called GGG on his BS claim he would fight at 168.

Believe it or not, although money drives most things in boxing, not everyone is dumb enough to risk damage to their legacy if they don't need the money.

Boxing doesn't need Ward to re-spark things, it needs our current champs to start making fights fans want to see.
Well I agree with you and indeed Ward is one of those fighters that has nothing left to prove BUT imagine a 38 y/o Ward coming of retirement and beat Canelo?

I still think that Ward with proper tune ups and training camps could give Canelo a tough fight! And let's face it that Charlo, Benavidez or Bivol are not on Ward's level!
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Re: Imo a 38y/o Andre Ward would be Canelo's toughest opponent!(better than GGG,Charlo,Benavidez,Bivol or Beterbiev)

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Ward beat a prime at the top of his game-undefeated Krusher Kovalev!

Canelo beat a washed up Kovalev that took the fight on short notice, not being able to fully prepare for the fight.

A 38 y/o Ward with proper tune ups, training camp and correct judges has good chances to beat Canelo. :box:
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Re: A fight that would re-spark the boxing fire would be Ward vs Canelo in 2022

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Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 17 Sep 2021, 18:12 EO this seems to be in mediation because lloyds tpa totally botched wards claim which is typical of a claim tpa - deny and delay bs. Ward will get some settlement money
Thanks for taking the time to read the paperwork.

Legal stuff is often hard to digest and someone like you, who’s in the trade, taking time to digest and translate it is really appreciated. :TU:
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Re: Imo a 38y/o Andre Ward would be Canelo's toughest opponent!(better than GGG,Charlo,Benavidez,Bivol or Beterbiev)

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Considering Canelo v GGG 1 and Ward v Kovalev 1 took place in the same city and the same arena, the judges are going to be pulling their hair out at who to rig the fight for.
Well at least they've had some practice in the two fights I've mentioned.
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Re: Imo a 38y/o Andre Ward would be Canelo's toughest opponent!(better than GGG,Charlo,Benavidez,Bivol or Beterbiev)

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Evander wrote: 18 Sep 2021, 19:46 Considering Canelo v GGG 1 and Ward v Kovalev 1 took place in the same city and the same arena, the judges are going to be pulling their hair out at who to rig the fight for.
Well at least they've had some practice in the two fights I've mentioned.
the old 120-108, 114-114, 108-120 split draw.
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Re: Imo a 38y/o Andre Ward would be Canelo's toughest opponent!(better than GGG,Charlo,Benavidez,Bivol or Beterbiev)

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apollo creed wrote: 18 Sep 2021, 15:37 Ward beat a prime at the top of his game-undefeated Krusher Kovalev!

Canelo beat a washed up Kovalev that took the fight on short notice, not being able to fully prepare for the fight.

A 38 y/o Ward with proper tune ups, training camp and correct judges has good chances to beat Canelo. :box:
First Ward-Kovalev bout looked like a Draw.
Ward fought dirty in they're 2nd bout. All those nasty dirty nut shots. He did that dirty crap for a reason. He knew he wasn't going to win otherwise.
Canelo Brutally Ko'd a Resurged Kovalev. He'd beat up Ward,from post to post, and if Ward started fighting like a cheating coward with those cowardly nut shots, Canelo wouldn't be nice about that BS like Kovalev was. He'd retaliate ten-fold,and then annihilate "Mr Slick Dirty Duty Ward".
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