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as you can tell he's attached to ortiz's balls and cant deal with any criticism against him

Well he's a Wilder fan and you are well aware that they have to believe in Luis Ortiz because if he isn't an elite heavyweight that means Wilder has never beaten one.

What we can say for certain about Luis Ortiz is that his record as both an amateur and a professional are distinctly unimpressive for a rated fighter.

He is frequently one side of this kind of argument about who ducked whom.

He has been caught out in a lie about having been low-balled because he needed an excuse to duck the fight ergo unlike Joyce he is demonstrably proven to be a liar.

Anybody who would believe without evidence, anything Ortiz says, either hasn't been paying attention, or is alternatively very stupid or has an agenda, maybe both?

The truth comes out.
https://www.BS.com/luis-ortiz- ... er--160785

Let's find out. The ball is in Joyce's court. Make a public offer, and settle it in the ring. Ortiz is close to 43 and fought 1 round in almost 2 years. Should be a good tune up for Joyce, unless he was lying.

Bandog wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 07:05 The truth comes out.
https://www.BS.com/luis-ortiz-joe-joyce ... er--160785

Let's find out. The ball is in Joyce's court. Make a public offer, and settle it in the ring. Ortiz is close to 43 and fought 1 round in almost 2 years. Should be a good tune up for Joyce, unless he was lying.

www.BS.com
Seems appropriate

Finkel wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 11:37

Bandog wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 07:05 The truth comes out.
https://www.BS.com/luis-ortiz-joe-joyce ... er--160785

Let's find out. The ball is in Joyce's court. Make a public offer, and settle it in the ring. Ortiz is close to 43 and fought 1 round in almost 2 years. Should be a good tune up for Joyce, unless he was lying.

www.BS.com
Seems appropriate

Boxing Scene is owned by CBS.

CBS owns Fox.

Fox works with the PBC.

Luis Ortiz is a PBC fighter.

Luis Ortiz’s handlers claimed that they rejected the AJ bout, because they were being low-balled.

Eddie Hearn publicly claimed he’d publish the written correspondences of the offer if Team Ortiz didn’t back down.

Luis Ortiz’s team backed down and admitted to lying.

Luis Ortiz ducked AJ, Dillian Whyte, Joe Joyce and Otto Wallin.

Anyone that believes in Team Ortiz’s sincerity are complete utter morons!

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 15:39

Finkel wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 11:37

Bandog wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 07:05 The truth comes out.
https://www.BS.com/luis-ortiz-joe-joyce ... er--160785

Let's find out. The ball is in Joyce's court. Make a public offer, and settle it in the ring. Ortiz is close to 43 and fought 1 round in almost 2 years. Should be a good tune up for Joyce, unless he was lying.

www.BS.com
Seems appropriate

Boxing Scene is owned by CBS.

CBS owns Fox.

Fox works with the PBC.

Luis Ortiz is a PBC fighter.

Luis Ortiz’s handlers claimed that they rejected the AJ bout, because they were being low-balled.

Eddie Hearn publicly claimed he’d publish the written correspondences of the offer if Team Ortiz didn’t back down.

Luis Ortiz’s team backed down and admitted to lying.

Luis Ortiz ducked AJ, Dillian Whyte, Joe Joyce and Otto Wallin.

Anyone that believes in Team Ortiz’s sincerity are complete utter morons!

Cbs owns showtime they do not own fox

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 15:39

Finkel wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 11:37

Bandog wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 07:05 The truth comes out.
https://www.BS.com/luis-ortiz-joe-joyce ... er--160785

Let's find out. The ball is in Joyce's court. Make a public offer, and settle it in the ring. Ortiz is close to 43 and fought 1 round in almost 2 years. Should be a good tune up for Joyce, unless he was lying.

www.BS.com
Seems appropriate

Boxing Scene is owned by CBS.

CBS owns Fox.

Fox works with the PBC.

Luis Ortiz is a PBC fighter.

Luis Ortiz’s handlers claimed that they rejected the AJ bout, because they were being low-balled.

Eddie Hearn publicly claimed he’d publish the written correspondences of the offer if Team Ortiz didn’t back down.

Luis Ortiz’s team backed down and admitted to lying.

Luis Ortiz ducked AJ, Dillian Whyte, Joe Joyce and Otto Wallin.

Anyone that believes in Team Ortiz’s sincerity are complete utter morons!

Nice information, but I was just making a crap joke

Enjoy the Joshua fight

Bandog wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 07:05 The truth comes out.
https://www.BS.com/luis-ortiz-joe-joyce ... er--160785

Let's find out. The ball is in Joyce's court. Make a public offer, and settle it in the ring. Ortiz is close to 43 and fought 1 round in almost 2 years. Should be a good tune up for Joyce, unless he was lying.

ya, because if it comes out of luiz ortiz's mouth it must be the truth, just like he'd fight AJ any time, any money, any place

Imagine the speed difference in Usyk-Joyce fight today

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 16:13

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 15:39

Finkel wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 11:37
www.BS.com
Seems appropriate

Boxing Scene is owned by CBS.

CBS owns Fox.

Fox works with the PBC.

Luis Ortiz is a PBC fighter.

Luis Ortiz’s handlers claimed that they rejected the AJ bout, because they were being low-balled.

Eddie Hearn publicly claimed he’d publish the written correspondences of the offer if Team Ortiz didn’t back down.

Luis Ortiz’s team backed down and admitted to lying.

Luis Ortiz ducked AJ, Dillian Whyte, Joe Joyce and Otto Wallin.

Anyone that believes in Team Ortiz’s sincerity are complete utter morons!

Cbs owns showtime they do not own fox

It doesn't change anything, does it?

Showtime also works with the PBC.

Finkel wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 16:13

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 15:39

Finkel wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 11:37
www.BS.com
Seems appropriate

Boxing Scene is owned by CBS.

CBS owns Fox.

Fox works with the PBC.

Luis Ortiz is a PBC fighter.

Luis Ortiz’s handlers claimed that they rejected the AJ bout, because they were being low-balled.

Eddie Hearn publicly claimed he’d publish the written correspondences of the offer if Team Ortiz didn’t back down.

Luis Ortiz’s team backed down and admitted to lying.

Luis Ortiz ducked AJ, Dillian Whyte, Joe Joyce and Otto Wallin.

Anyone that believes in Team Ortiz’s sincerity are complete utter morons!

Nice information, but I was just making a crap joke

Enjoy the Joshua fight

Sorry, I was really responding to Bandog and your reply was embedded in the quote.

My gripe lies with Bandog, not you.

aicheligad wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 19:09 Imagine the speed difference in Usyk-Joyce fight today

there was a growing 'joyce beats usyk' crew, im guessing today put a stop to that

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 19:15

aicheligad wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 19:09 Imagine the speed difference in Usyk-Joyce fight today

there was a growing 'joyce beats usyk' crew, im guessing today put a stop to that

Loool really?

Well, there is a guy in another topic who had Joshua winning today...

ya check uk section, after his wins vs dubs and takam a lot more people were picking joyce

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 19:25 ya check uk section, after his wins vs dubs and takam a lot more people were picking joyce

I don't visit the UK section often. There is more movement there, but also, there are lots of casuals.

dont blame him problay wont win

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 19:15

aicheligad wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 19:09 Imagine the speed difference in Usyk-Joyce fight today

there was a growing 'joyce beats usyk' crew, im guessing today put a stop to that

I would imagine so

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 19:15

Finkel wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 16:13

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑25 Sep 2021, 15:39
Boxing Scene is owned by CBS.

CBS owns Fox.

Fox works with the PBC.

Luis Ortiz is a PBC fighter.

Luis Ortiz’s handlers claimed that they rejected the AJ bout, because they were being low-balled.

Eddie Hearn publicly claimed he’d publish the written correspondences of the offer if Team Ortiz didn’t back down.

Luis Ortiz’s team backed down and admitted to lying.

Luis Ortiz ducked AJ, Dillian Whyte, Joe Joyce and Otto Wallin.

Anyone that believes in Team Ortiz’s sincerity are complete utter morons!

Nice information, but I was just making a crap joke

Enjoy the Joshua fight

Sorry, I was really responding to Bandog and your reply was embedded in the quote.

My gripe lies with Bandog, not you.

No worries

Like I said, let's find out if Joyce makes a legit offer or if he is just name dropping like Ruiz does with Ortiz.

As far as ducking Otto Wallin, I can't find anyone with facts to back that claim. Hearsay is what it is. A couple of youtubers flapping their lips about it, but no one knows for sure what went on. This article was interesting, a month ago. Wallin doesn't mention Ortiz in deep negotiations, only a possible opponent.
https://boxing-social.com/features/otto ... ting-game/

Ortiz is probably being kept on ice for Ruiz or Wilder again. He's done really he's 42 and inactive, that's why they all want him.

Bandog wrote: ↑26 Sep 2021, 12:00 Like I said, let's find out if Joyce makes a legit offer or if he is just name dropping like Ruiz does with Ortiz.

As far as ducking Otto Wallin, I can't find anyone with facts to back that claim. Hearsay is what it is. A couple of youtubers flapping their lips about it, but no one knows for sure what went on. This article was interesting, a month ago. Wallin doesn't mention Ortiz in deep negotiations, only a possible opponent.
https://boxing-social.com/features/otto ... ting-game/

ortiz name drops with pretty much everyone he mentions, proven to lie about facing aj and pretty much only fights bums

Bet Ortiz wishes he fought AJ. Ortiz is not usyk but with how poor AJs lead foot/strait left defence was on the weekend he might of been a chance.

Call Makhmudov for fun....they will accept if the money is decent c'mon call don't be scared.
Yeah,as soon as the lion answer the phone they're gonna hang up.

And they will say " we call him".....

ortiz will fight anyone, any place, any time, for any money.......until they actually offer him the fight

such is the reason he's almost entirely beat cans despite being nearly 43

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Sep 2021, 21:22 ortiz will fight anyone, any place, any time, for any money.......until they actually offer him the fight

such is the reason he's almost entirely beat cans despite being nearly 43

Ortiz called Joyce a liar, so let's see if Joyce follows through now. 43yr old man is a good tune up, unless Joyce still isn't ready for that level.