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Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 17 Oct 2021, 09:43
by Tony1244
margaret thatcher wrote: 14 Oct 2021, 23:16 in 2013, back when they might have been bruhs

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They certainly dressed better then in my humble and conservative opinion. :OhYes:

Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 13:21
by candyslim
I don't know what you are referring to Bandog. I'm not ducking your point, I just can't offer anything by way of comment. Do have a link to an article you could post?

Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 13:57
by jamesmcdonnell
Tony1244 wrote: 16 Oct 2021, 14:46
stevec@france wrote: 16 Oct 2021, 14:30
Tony1244 wrote: 15 Oct 2021, 09:07

:TU: We agree.
He wont be able to resist some shitty underhanded excuse just wait and see .
There are excuses and then there are excuses. If he can prove a hand fracture, that may have merit. But sure, the cheating one was over the line and the costume one made no sense. But frankly, he can blame the loss on aliens from Pluto, and it would have no bearing on me watching him in the ring, as I'm here for the in-ring entertainment.
Fighters bust their hands all the time during fights, it's not even a valid excuse really.

Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 13:59
by apollo creed
Tony1244 wrote: 17 Oct 2021, 09:43
margaret thatcher wrote: 14 Oct 2021, 23:16 in 2013, back when they might have been bruhs

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They certainly dressed better then in my humble and conservative opinion. :OhYes:
:TU:

Much better than the "modern" masquerade ball outfit.

Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 14:29
by margaret thatcher
before their egos blew up :OhYes:

Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 14:52
by Bandog
candyslim wrote: 19 Oct 2021, 13:21 I don't know what you are referring to Bandog. I'm not ducking your point, I just can't offer anything by way of comment. Do have a link to an article you could post?
Interesting.


Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 14:59
by margaret thatcher
"fury's glove is flopping all over the place like his hand isn't even in the glove'

ya, because having no hand in your glove is such a big advantage

"what set off alarms was that fury's thumb wasn't in the thumb area"

uh no, the issue there was that the thumb of the glove had become detatched, not that his hand wasnt in the glove

"in the usa, boxing is all about black vs non black, which is why media is quick to report wilder's excuseS"

uh bruh, they reported them because they are hilarious :lol:

Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 15:10
by KiwiRider
Bandog wrote: 19 Oct 2021, 14:52
candyslim wrote: 19 Oct 2021, 13:21 I don't know what you are referring to Bandog. I'm not ducking your point, I just can't offer anything by way of comment. Do have a link to an article you could post?
Interesting.

Well that was interesting up until 7mins, then it just repeats with an added race element.
I saw Tyson cup shotting the left hook in the 3rd fight. And you can definitely tell his thumb isn't in the thumb part of the glove in the second fight.

Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 15:12
by margaret thatcher
"young pharaoh has a whole playlist breaking down the glove tampering"

dudes, come on :lol:

Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 18:41
by Bandog
KiwiRider wrote: 19 Oct 2021, 15:10
Bandog wrote: 19 Oct 2021, 14:52
candyslim wrote: 19 Oct 2021, 13:21 I don't know what you are referring to Bandog. I'm not ducking your point, I just can't offer anything by way of comment. Do have a link to an article you could post?
Interesting.

Well that was interesting up until 7mins, then it just repeats with an added race element.
I saw Tyson cup shotting the left hook in the 3rd fight. And you can definitely tell his thumb isn't in the thumb part of the glove in the second fight.
Cup shots might explain his ear. Regardless, if they review it and find cheating, a DQ should happen. I'll let the experts decide. Fury has been caught before cheating. Steroids and glove altering...both about 5-6 yrs ago.

Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 18:44
by KiwiRider
Bandog wrote: 19 Oct 2021, 18:41
KiwiRider wrote: 19 Oct 2021, 15:10
Bandog wrote: 19 Oct 2021, 14:52

Interesting.

Well that was interesting up until 7mins, then it just repeats with an added race element.
I saw Tyson cup shotting the left hook in the 3rd fight. And you can definitely tell his thumb isn't in the thumb part of the glove in the second fight.
Cup shots might explain his ear. Regardless, if the review it and find cheating, a DQ should happen. I'll let the experts decide. Fury has been caught before cheating. Steroids and glove altering.
Before political correctness kicked in, calling yourself The Gypsy King was akin to the king of con men, grifters, and freeloading reprobates. Read into that what you want.

Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 20:39
by margaret thatcher
there's not gonna be any review and 0 chance fury is dq'd for anything

the glove situation was resolved vs hammer and the comission/ref/corner/everyone found nothing with his glove in the wilder fights, it's just upset fanbois making excuses basically

Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 21:57
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Hopefully they strip fury and return the crown to the rightful king, luis ortiz.

Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 22:09
by margaret thatcher
every day 385,000 babies are born

that's 385,000 more people ducking luis ortiz each day

Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 22:17
by tiny_acres
margaret thatcher wrote: 19 Oct 2021, 22:09 every day 385,000 babies are born

that's 385,000 more people ducking luis ortiz each day
:lol: :lol: I think he might fight a few of them if they can get a license

Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 22:22
by margaret thatcher
:OhYes:

Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 22:30
by Bandog
People can deny what they want. Video evidence doesnt lie. It's obvious.

Fury has a history of cheating, and that's not an opinion, it's fact. It has more to do with the integrity of the sport than Wilder. Just more black eyes for boxing.

For some odd reason, previous hardcore fans seem to be callous of things like peds and other forms of cheating now, as long as they are entertained. The whole sport and it's fans are dumbed down to a level that is pathetic. And then we have those that bitch because we have no goid fights.

Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 22:32
by margaret thatcher
there is nothing for the wilder fights. wilder, wilders team, the ref, the commission........no one found anything. it only started when a butthurt fan made a crappy video, which was taaken from the first fight but they only posted when he lost. there is absolutely no benefit in having you hand down the glove, you'll hit with far less power with no hand in the knuckle area and you cant make a fist

there was an issue with the glove for hammer, and that was fixed before the fight started.


hes a proven ped user, that's true. but the glove stuff is pretty much fanbois still upset that wilder couldnt beeat him.. just like they moan about fury beating the counts. its not about the integrity of the sport at all, its about wilder losing. thats when all his fans started making excuses. none of yall was saying sheet about gloves until fury ko'd him

Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 22:41
by Jeff_lacy_ko
The luis ortiz fanboy lectures about fighters cheating with steroids

Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 22:48
by margaret thatcher
ya, but it's about the integrity of the sport, not simply who we're the biggest fanbois of right lol

Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 20 Oct 2021, 00:59
by emallini
If I thought that my oponent really cheated in a fight where he busted me up, I would not show respect no matter what happens. Question is, does Wilder really believe it?

Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 20 Oct 2021, 01:25
by margaret thatcher
emallini wrote: 20 Oct 2021, 00:59 If I thought that my oponent really cheated in a fight where he busted me up, I would not show respect no matter what happens. Question is, does Wilder really believe it?
my hunch is he will believe it, look at all the fanbois, conspiracy theorists, and hanger ons going on about fury supposedly cheating with the gloves (and other things).

with all the excuses he's made he's obviously looking for a way to explain the loss (at least loss 2) with something other than 'fury is just better at this than i am', which tbf is an almost universal thing among fighters. i'd think he'd eat up all the people saying he was cheated

Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 20 Oct 2021, 02:28
by pound per pound
Tony1244 wrote: 14 Oct 2021, 20:43 "Wow, what a hell of a night! I would like to first and foremost thank God for allowing me to give the world another part of me that’s driven with passion and determination. I would like to thank my team and my fans for sticking by my side through this long process.
I would be lying if I said that I wasn’t disappointed in the outcome but after reflecting on my journey, I now see that what God wanted me to experience is far greater than what I expected to happen. We didn’t get the win but a wise man once said the victories are within the lessons. I’ve learned that sometimes you have to lose to win. Although, I wanted the win I enjoyed seeing the fans win even more.
Hopefully, I proved that I am a true Warrior and a true King in this sport. Hopefully, WE proved that no matter how hard you get hit with trials and tribulations you can always pick yourself up to live and fight again for what you believe in.
Last but not least I would like to congratulate @gypsyking101 for his victory and thank you for the great historical memories that will last forever."
Ha! Sounds like he wants a 4th match. No thank you.

Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 20 Oct 2021, 09:41
by Tony1244
pound per pound wrote: 20 Oct 2021, 02:28
Tony1244 wrote: 14 Oct 2021, 20:43 "Wow, what a hell of a night! I would like to first and foremost thank God for allowing me to give the world another part of me that’s driven with passion and determination. I would like to thank my team and my fans for sticking by my side through this long process.
I would be lying if I said that I wasn’t disappointed in the outcome but after reflecting on my journey, I now see that what God wanted me to experience is far greater than what I expected to happen. We didn’t get the win but a wise man once said the victories are within the lessons. I’ve learned that sometimes you have to lose to win. Although, I wanted the win I enjoyed seeing the fans win even more.
Hopefully, I proved that I am a true Warrior and a true King in this sport. Hopefully, WE proved that no matter how hard you get hit with trials and tribulations you can always pick yourself up to live and fight again for what you believe in.
Last but not least I would like to congratulate @gypsyking101 for his victory and thank you for the great historical memories that will last forever."
Ha! Sounds like he wants a 4th match. No thank you.
For a fraction of a second, I thought you were quoting me. I'm thinking I'm not a God thanker WTF? :lol: Agree, an immediate 4th match is patently ridiculous. Even though I previously suggested Ruiz or Helenius for Wilder, I don't think Deontay wants to waste time with them and he needs a long recovery. Wilder should fight the winner of AJ-Usyk; if he losses he should retire, if he wins, then maybe a 4th. .

Re: Deontay Wilder Statement:

Posted: 20 Oct 2021, 10:24
by IRONFIST
Enlightened-One wrote: 15 Oct 2021, 03:07 Deontay Wilder dislikes Tyson Fury.

The Bronze Bomber’s post-fight reaction was impulsive and sincere, but it would have embarrassed his team, the PBC and the networks he works with.

Everyone saw what he said to Fury.

Everyone working with Wilder will inevitably try to remedy the situation. His social media posts is just damage limitation via PR.

Deontay has been coerced to back-track and grudgingly show respect, where none exists.

It doesn’t really matter in the scheme of things, since Wilder has made many mistakes during his career, especially all the excuses he cited when he was destroyed during the second Fury outing.

Outside of the ring, Wilder is portrayed as being a noble civil rights activist, but this is just a fictional media portrayal of a man that does not exist. There wouldn’t have been much black pride with his post-fight antics during the aftermath of both his losses to Tyson Fury. He's certainly no role model!

Deontay’s conduct erodes his credibility and has nothing whatsoever to do with proverbial hyperbole – it’s a genuine heart-felt dislike of Fury, coupled with a deep-seated frustration about having been destroyed twice by the better fighter!

Fighters aren’t always nice people. They don’t need to be. They punch people in the face for a living and try to damage and knockout other human beings!

But my criticism of Wilder is more about the hypocrisy of how he portrays himself to the media and his actions outside the ring.
:clap: Well said sir