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KiwiRider wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 15:21

gregregegg wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 15:13 Hope its Bakole. This is an epic Jan 15th fight. Normaly a pretty grim time of year cause noone wants to be deep in camp for chrissmass.

Me too, and I'm trying to remain optimistic.
But they have been moving Yoka so slowly.. That this seems a bigger step up than you would expect. Either that or I rate Bakole, which I do.

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 15:54 Yoka is chinny. And he would rather play cuckold with his wife.

gregregegg wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 22:32

KiwiRider wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 15:21

gregregegg wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 15:13 Hope its Bakole. This is an epic Jan 15th fight. Normaly a pretty grim time of year cause noone wants to be deep in camp for chrissmass.

Me too, and I'm trying to remain optimistic.
But they have been moving Yoka so slowly.. That this seems a bigger step up than you would expect. Either that or I rate Bakole, which I do.

Wouldent say yoka has been moved slow compared to whats standard, even for a olympic medalist. Rice 2nd fight, Allen 5th fight, Duhapas 8th, hammer 9th, milas 11th... Quicker than most, but agree i would like to see him pick it up.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑05 Nov 2021, 03:03

gregregegg wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 22:32

KiwiRider wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 15:21

Me too, and I'm trying to remain optimistic.
But they have been moving Yoka so slowly.. That this seems a bigger step up than you would expect. Either that or I rate Bakole, which I do.

Wouldent say yoka has been moved slow compared to whats standard, even for a olympic medalist. Rice 2nd fight, Allen 5th fight, Duhapas 8th, hammer 9th, milas 11th... Quicker than most, but agree i would like to see him pick it up.

Fair enough
I make 2 mistakes when I think of Yoka.
1, I measure him against the career of Joe Joyce. Just because I thought Yoka would advance quicker because of the gold.
2, I forget the time out for the drugs ban.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Dec 2021, 11:43 So this Is back on?

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑09 Dec 2021, 12:42 Definitely fancy Bakole for the upset here.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑09 Dec 2021, 12:52

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑09 Dec 2021, 12:42 Definitely fancy Bakole for the upset here.

Hi Billy.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Dec 2021, 13:17 tbf yokas been on one of the more ambitious runs in the division, at least at the prospect/emerging contender level

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Dec 2021, 13:17 tbf yokas been on one of the more ambitious runs in the division, at least at the prospect/emerging contender level

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Dec 2021, 19:36

mickey1975 wrote: ↑09 Dec 2021, 12:52

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑09 Dec 2021, 12:42 Definitely fancy Bakole for the upset here.

Hi Billy.

gregregegg wrote: ↑05 Nov 2021, 03:13

KiwiRider wrote: ↑05 Nov 2021, 03:03

gregregegg wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 22:32

Wouldent say yoka has been moved slow compared to whats standard, even for a olympic medalist. Rice 2nd fight, Allen 5th fight, Duhapas 8th, hammer 9th, milas 11th... Quicker than most, but agree i would like to see him pick it up.

Fair enough
I make 2 mistakes when I think of Yoka.
1, I measure him against the career of Joe Joyce. Just because I thought Yoka would advance quicker because of the gold.
2, I forget the time out for the drugs ban.

Dont think joyce has gone that far ahead of him when you take into acount the year off. Also joyce is old so needed to move. And joyce is just a better pro i think. over 12 rounds not many more scary than joyce. imagine if it was the unlimmited round era, fornicating shit yaself befor fighting big joe.

stujones wrote: ↑10 Dec 2021, 06:20

gregregegg wrote: ↑05 Nov 2021, 03:13

KiwiRider wrote: ↑05 Nov 2021, 03:03
Fair enough
I make 2 mistakes when I think of Yoka.
1, I measure him against the career of Joe Joyce. Just because I thought Yoka would advance quicker because of the gold.
2, I forget the time out for the drugs ban.

Dont think joyce has gone that far ahead of him when you take into acount the year off. Also joyce is old so needed to move. And joyce is just a better pro i think. over 12 rounds not many more scary than joyce. imagine if it was the unlimmited round era, fornicating shit yaself befor fighting big joe.

Unfortunately Joyce hasn't also been moved along as quick as he should have. Started brilliant, but its now been nearly 6 years since his Olympic silver. With the extensive experience he had in the Amateurs and the poorness of the Heavyweight division. He should have been fighting the likes of WIlder before Fury did. Looks like the Heavyweights titles will be taken up for the rest of the year now.

Get in with the Bryan / Charr winner is what I say.

Obviously he is no Lomachenko - but with the experience Joyce had and his age- he should have been really knocking on the door within 2 or so years.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Dec 2021, 06:36

stujones wrote: ↑10 Dec 2021, 06:20

gregregegg wrote: ↑05 Nov 2021, 03:13

Dont think joyce has gone that far ahead of him when you take into acount the year off. Also joyce is old so needed to move. And joyce is just a better pro i think. over 12 rounds not many more scary than joyce. imagine if it was the unlimmited round era, fornicating shit yaself befor fighting big joe.

Unfortunately Joyce hasn't also been moved along as quick as he should have. Started brilliant, but its now been nearly 6 years since his Olympic silver. With the extensive experience he had in the Amateurs and the poorness of the Heavyweight division. He should have been fighting the likes of WIlder before Fury did. Looks like the Heavyweights titles will be taken up for the rest of the year now.

Get in with the Bryan / Charr winner is what I say.

Obviously he is no Lomachenko - but with the experience Joyce had and his age- he should have been really knocking on the door within 2 or so years.

The HW division is a tough division to move along.
Everyone is on their own path, working their ways towards a mandatory, some fighting nobodies.

Just to get that title shot.

In the past 20 years, mjoarity of that time, there has been 2 champions at one time.

We get the odd 'transitional' champions.. They just keep the belt warm though.

stujones wrote: ↑10 Dec 2021, 07:04

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Dec 2021, 06:36

stujones wrote: ↑10 Dec 2021, 06:20

Unfortunately Joyce hasn't also been moved along as quick as he should have. Started brilliant, but its now been nearly 6 years since his Olympic silver. With the extensive experience he had in the Amateurs and the poorness of the Heavyweight division. He should have been fighting the likes of WIlder before Fury did. Looks like the Heavyweights titles will be taken up for the rest of the year now.

Get in with the Bryan / Charr winner is what I say.

Obviously he is no Lomachenko - but with the experience Joyce had and his age- he should have been really knocking on the door within 2 or so years.

The HW division is a tough division to move along.
Everyone is on their own path, working their ways towards a mandatory, some fighting nobodies.

Just to get that title shot.

In the past 20 years, mjoarity of that time, there has been 2 champions at one time.

We get the odd 'transitional' champions.. They just keep the belt warm though.

I agree but at the same time - we had a guy turning over in his 30s and with hundreds (I would guess) amateur fights and many of these were against the very very best amateurs in the world. He was beating guys in the amateurs who would beat the level of Dave Allen on their pro debut.

Nobody said when David Haye was calling out Derek Chisroa to be Joyce's SECOND fight that it was a suicide mission and a ridiculous claim. After all this was Chisora who had been brave but lost clearly when he stepped up to world class and Joyce needed to get a move on.

5 and a bit years later and if he fought Chisora now it would still be his best win.

I don't think he should be sitting down and just waiting for a shot to come - time is pressing. He might make more money going down the WBA route and defending that belt against the best of the rest in the UK and using that exposure to call out Fury / AJ / Usyk etc.